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docyabut
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You also said she was carried a tray. Any mother knows food is comforting to a child ,even a spirit:)
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Hadn't thought of that either.

Your good!

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> Hey maybe I'm psycho (or is that psychic)

Hey, don't be surprised, many people who fight it are sometimes the best at it... [Smile]

During these times of great change on the planet, imagine there is a strong rapid moving river of energy. This dynamic and powerful energy current that is washing over the planet is moving through all aspects of life, bathing every cell and atom of the body with a frequency of transformation and evolution.

When you surrender to this rapid flowing current of transformation you move with it, you become a part of it, like a small twig that floats upon the surface of the water. Yet if you cling to the shores of old patterns, old familiar emotions, old dysfunctional behaviors, you will be battered and will tire. If you fight the energy current or doubt its power, you will be overwhelmed.

The best and most conscious manner to deal with this incredible energy that is gifted to humanity is to bravely trust the flow and embrace the movement and changes that are taking place. Surrender into trust. Drop into a place within your being that offers you flexibility of all that is transpiring. Surrender to the flow.

There are millions who are awakening and understanding the divine manifestation. As a guardian of light you are most powerful and effective when you maintain a high frequency vibration

You are more fully connected with divine source and guided to the places and people that are ready and willing to shift. You will offer a vibration which will trigger awareness in others, a vibration which will anchor a new expanded consciousness. You will offer a life raft to those who are willing to trust their divine natures and surrender to the essence that they are, magnificent beings of divine light.

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MrJ : Thats my wifes theory, not hers specifically, but the one she thinks is right. Strong emotions imprint the area and some physical circumstance causes the memory to replay. Its an interesting theory and plausible. But what about people who claim to have spoken to a deceased family member? Perhaps they are fibbing. Those who continually speak to dead family members I might consider a little off. But those who believe they have heard or spoken to lost family members a time or two.....? In a few definite circumstances, a "ghost" has given specific information that later proved correct. One such case went way beyond coincidence. There are probably others. I'm referring to the Cambell-Douglas haunting referring to Ticonderoga. Its a historical fact. Theres a lot we don't know and possibly never will.
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> But what about people who claim to have spoken
> to a deceased family member? Perhaps they are
> fibbing.

Perhaps, but it could have also happened within their own PERSONAL reality...Why would you deny that?

For example, the old bicameral mind would hear voice in their heads MOST OF THE TIME...

> Those who continually speak to dead family
> members I might consider a little off. But
> those who believe they have heard or spoken to
> lost family members a time or two.....?

OK, so what the big deal one way or the other and what does it REALLY matter what you consider!?
I KNOW, of course, that group reality affects personal reality but it also works the other way around... [Smile]

> In a few definite circumstances, a "ghost" has
> given specific information that later proved
> correct. One such case went way beyond
> coincidence.

Coincidence!? LOL!!!

Most beings ARE at any particular space/time location for a very particular "reason" not just "coincidence"...or "random"...

Karma is always at work... [Smile]

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Did anyone see the documentery Uncoverd,( Life After Death)2007 on BIO last night? Really good scientific study.
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I wonder whether we all go to a "waiting room" type of area until Judgement Day.

Since all are judged on that day, it would stand to reason. The most horrible thing I could think of is getting a "taste" of the next life only to be judged unworthy, and going where most of us don't want to go.

I've seen so much suffering in life, that I'm not as afraid any more. However, my Dad once told me that he wanted to go very fast, and God allowed him to do so. He did not want to suffer, and told me that he did NOT want to be put on any life support whatsoever. My Mom was surprised at this, because she says that you should fight as long as possible to stay alive, and couldn't believe Daddy said that to me.

Personally, I know all of us would not like to suffer at all, but some do; some don't. All we can do is pray for no suffering, but when it comes down to it, it's not our decision.

Anyway, for me, I agree with Doc. Yes, suffering scares me, but death does not. If you believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but especially Jesus for taking our sins, and dying for them, defeating death, and rising, so that we could have the same thing, then you are not going to have a problem.

Doc, I know what you mean. When my Grandfather died, I was terribly worried about his soul. He had suffered numerous, massive heart attacks in the previous year, and it had done something to his mind so that he did not have an opportunity to accept Jesus. Just before he died, he told my Mom that one night, he had seen Jesus standing at the foot of his bed. I took this to mean that Dad would be OK. After he died (horribly I might add), the funeral home was decked out just like a normal viewing, and contrary to my husband and mom, I went alone. I wanted to do this. After I was there a while, I decided to look at the book. Just over the book was the famous photo of Jesus with the flock of sheep. He is holding one of those sheep. That little sheep face "morphed" into my Grandfather's face for about 10 seconds, and it brought tears to my eyes. I felt lighter. On the day of his funeral, the day was horribly rainy. We had to drive about an hour to the cemetary in the country. On the drive, it was raining and miserable when suddenly, the entire sky (from horizon to horizon) cleared, and I knew then, that he would be OK.

Unfortunately, Christianity was combined with many pagan ritualism for convenience. We still do this. We combine holidays together. This is a terrible thing that was done. However, many Christian churches have been instigated in pagan buildings or built on top of pagan buildings.

MrJ, another thing, I believe that I experienced a near-death experience several years ago.

If it was a dream, then it was the only dream I ever had in my life that made absolute sense. My dreams generally merge into all kinds of unrelated things, except for those about Volcanoes.

Anyway, it begins by my being in what seems to be a dark cave with an "altar" in front of me. Firelight seems to erupt from behind the altar, but without fire. A dark figure began to throw fire at me. Overhead was Jesus. For whatever reason, I felt like I was protecting and defending Him, and was able to throw ice back at the dark figure. Finally, the "battle" was over, and I stood in front of double, hand-carved wooden (or what looked like wood) doors. A small figure just out of sight opened the doors. A light brighter than anything I had ever seen in my life appeared. It took several minutes for my eyes to adjust, and even then, the light was extremely bright, but finally I was able to see the most beautiful place I had ever seen. It had lush grass, a rock wall just to the right of me, and in the distance, groves of trees separated by an uninterupted path to the horizon.

Just to the right of the rock wall, a table was set with all white - white cloth, white utensils, white dinnerware, etc. . Then, I noticed a man sitting on the left side of the table clothed in white robes with a beard. He turned and I recognized Jesus. I sat down to his left, and realized a man and a woman dressed all in white were seated to my left. They wore clothes in the 1900's era. She had such a beautiful hat on her head, and he wore a white tie.

I sat down, and I distinctly remember having a conversation with all three of them. I had never felt such peace, and I was absolutely peaceful for the first time in my whole life.

Finally, Jesus told me that my work wasn't finished yet, and that I had to return. I begged him to let me stay, but he said to go and finish my work. I remember "floating" away from them, and the despair at leaving was to my very soul.

At that point, I gently woke up and found myself back in the "real" world, and the sadness and pain at being back here was unimaginable. I remember all of this just as if it were yesterday, and in fact, it was 11 years ago.

It was so compelling, I wrote it down in my Bible so that others might read it one day.

Anyway, I need to tell this story far more often than I do.

NOTE: FYI...I have a habit of holding my breath sometimes awake and in my sleep. Sometimes, I need to gasp for air; others I just start breathing again.

One more thing...I am adopted, as most know on AR. No, I never knew anything about my b-parents, because of the closed adoption thing. Anyway, not long afterward, I had one more dream - my photo was in the middle, and on either side were a man and woman in black and white photos, yet their features were obscured by pixelation ( a word I didn't even know existed back then). Anyway, after telling my daughter, she said, "Mom, did you ever think that the 2 couples were related somehow? Perhaps your b-parents?" Although I had not told anyone, and wanted her advice without knowing my conclusion, we both arrived at the same one.

So, do I believe in life after death? Before, I believed, but after this experience - absolutely and with no doubt whatsoever.

Anyway, Jesus only told us to tell others about God's Kingdom, and to love one another. While He said other things, too, he also said that he came to Earth not to get rid of the "Law", but to "fulfill" the "Law".

I know some people believe that things are "made up" to brush away faith, and like Brig, I truly feel pity for them whether they want it or not, and pray for them.

Let me assure some of these people that sometimes, faith comes out of the blue like a bolt of lightening - suddenly, without warning. Other times, it is slow, like a tiny stream that expands into a huge river and into a body of water.

RE: Alvin C. York.

He was a hell-raiser. He drank, gambled, was a deadly shot, and was considered a "ne'er do well".

The movie doesn't portray the exact reason for his sudden belief, but apparently his best friend was killed in a bar fight, and then he attended a revival meeting, because of it.

He completely changed almost overnight. He had no stomach for war, but finally, conceded that sometimes, in order to be free, one must fight, and sometimes is the moral thing to do.

He was the hero of the Argonne. He did not capitalize on his fame, because he was not proud of what he had done. Despite the fact he was very poor, he didn't accept Hollywood's lure, nor would he endorse products.

His idea was to return to America to provide educational opportunities to the mountain boys and girls in Tennessee. He helped to bring the 20th century to them. He used his celebrity status to improve his county. He was a Democrat who turned Republican.

http://www.alvincyork.org/AlvinCullomYork.htm

http://www.alvincyork.org/Biography.htm

So, faith can come in an instant or slowly, but unless someone is willing in some way, it will not come.

In otherwords, one has to be open to the possibilities. If one is not, then one's mind is closed.

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Hi Kim, IMHO life and death is happening in "real time", so there is no "waiting room" so to speak!

In other words, since time is just the inverse of frequency (it is cyclical), one is just taking a "quantum leap" from one stage to another...at transition!

Life to death to life to death to life to death, and so on...is cyclical, just like eveything else...

The end of a cycle is just the beginning of the next one...

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A very passionate and moving post, thank you for sharing Smiley.

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A bit of a fill in Smiley. I'm quite aware of the Movie Sargent York. His belief in God came in a bolt of lightning that distroyed the rifle he carried and the mule he was on but only scared he** out of him. Gary Cooper played York rather well. Yep his conversion was rather "out of the blue". [Wink]
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FEAR OF DEATH, Actually, you should be very afraid,do try and hang on as long as you can,most people are beat to death when they come out of the nose unless they have HD Earth Service boys protecting them.Hyperdimension is not a good place to be if you are the 'Wrong" faction. And the christians have the biggest surprise,they all all killed,no one goes forth.There is so much protocol information as to the HD process that I know that would make people just shake if they are not strong. I could write a book on that process alone,but as I told the Man with no wires, A secretary would be nice,anyone have an extra?Tanned please,with no bad habits... LOL

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> Actually, you should be very afraid,do try and
> hang on as long as you can,most people are beat
> to death when they come out of the nose unless
> they have HD Earth Service boys protecting
> them.

LOL!

> Hyperdimension is not a good place to be if
> you are the 'Wrong" faction.

..and what is the "wrong" faction!?

> And the christians have the biggest
> surprise,they all all killed,no one goes
> forth.

How can you be killed if/when they are already dead!?

> There is so much protocol information as to the
> HD process that I know that would make people
> just shake if they are not strong.

OK! So what's the "protocol"?

> I could write a book on that process alone,but
> as I told the Man with no wires, A secretary
> would be nice,anyone have an extra?Tanned
> please,with no bad habits... LOL

I see, so you want a nice tanned "secretary" to help you write your books! [Cool]

Does she have to re-located to Michigan? and specifically where in Michigan?

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Man or woman with no wires, As I am not as sure of your gender at this time from your statement log.Wrong faction,well like I said,if you have good protection and to simplify that,If you have a body that works perfect with no anomalies what so ever,you have great protection,but any diseases or chronic aches and pains or endocrine problems at all and that of course includes any problems keeping your weight proper,you dont have protection from being blasted with a zip gun when you go to hyperdimension. A zip gun is your adrenals nerve coming out of the dot and men learn to use that zip gun,your dot as a crystalline grown structure,can hold a charge and the aether provides the energy for that dot and so a dischare is like a piezo igniter discharging.Protocol is just a term for information that is specific to a tasking,in this case hyperdimension. I am getting by without a secretary just fine and it twas just humor,but when I did have one ,communiques were much more proper.... And who would want to live in Michigan,the weather here is not the best. And I have to burn lots of vegetable oil just to keep warm.

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Please do not beleive anything Metaclown says. He is a con artist who lies about his academic qualifications.

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> Man or woman with no wires, As I am not as sure
> of your gender at this time from your statement
> log.

Man! You better tune up your spider sensors... [Smile]

> Wrong faction,well like I said,if you have good
> protection and to simplify that,If you have a
> body that works perfect with no anomalies what
> so ever,you have great protection,

Well, all bodies eventually die!

> but any diseases or chronic aches and pains
> or endocrine problems at all and that of
> course includes any problems keeping your
> weight proper,you dont have protection from
> being blasted with a zip gun when you go to
> hyperdimension.

Zip gun!?

> A zip gun is your adrenals nerve coming out
> of the dot and men learn to use that zip
> gun,your dot as a crystalline grown
> structure,can hold a charge and the aether
> provides the energy for that dot and so a
> dischare is like a piezo igniter
> discharging.

Interesting!

..and how is energy then transferred back and forth to the dot from the arther?

> Protocol is just a term for information that
> is specific to a tasking,in this case
> hyperdimension.

Look, I am very familiar with what the word "protocol" means! What I asked you was what specific protocols are you using?

> I am getting by without a secretary just fine
> and it twas just humor,but when I did have
> one ,communiques were much more proper....

I am sure... [Smile]

> And who would want to live in Michigan,the
> weather here is not the best. And I have to
> burn lots of vegetable oil just to keep warm.

Vegetable oil!?

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Any kind of oil will burn.
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Ohio is so cold that the threat of global warming is a most welcome issue; but like the toothfairy it just ain't real. Sorry to burst your bubble Teddy, Al.
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJ:
If not, why?

No it does not. Because, death is a part of life and I beleive that there is much more after we depart from here. Just because we cannot find evidence to support "Life after Death" does not mean that we have evidence to refute it. It is kind of like that eery feeling you get when you sense someone else is staring at you. Scientists cannot explain why we can sense that, but we all know it DOES happen.

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Indeed — because we are all one. Dreams are the first clue. I have been billions of entities that populate my dreams...it is the real reality of being. We come here to learn and become full of worth. I have read the Book of Urantia a number of times. and that would be REAL
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Orion, one what!?

Also, since you say that you've been "billions of entities" then it is not "one" entity!!!

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indeed so. Deity is multifaceted or holo-faceted.
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Sounds like we are in agreement then, though, I cannot be certain. I cannot tell what Orion just said.

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Rael, is that like Ray EL? like light from God??? Anyway, I am sorry that you do not understand my communication/s but I communicate on a 27th level and it is hard to tone it down. i will try.
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Well Rael you're not alone here trying to grasp what Orion says! I guess that his communication protocols at the 27th level are fully scrambled (encrypted)... [Smile]

I asked him one what and he didn't answer! Maybe he is dealing with a schizo deity with multiple personalities!!!???

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Oh well, I guess I have done alright with my life — communicating the way I do. At least I am open to improvement. And, I think in numerous categories of syntax and expression via symbolique.
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Yet you still CANNOT answer the question of ONE WHAT!?

..since you think (believe) that "we are all one"...

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Very well then - in lieu of a reply, I'll leave you two alone... Together.

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Truth...it is the element of contrast that sets us all here.
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Element of contrast!? No wonder your communication protocols are scrambled! LOL!!!
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Wire, if you cannot bring yourself to read Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall or the Temple of Man by R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz I will thank you not to address anything regarding my intellect since you cannot come to my level at all unless you do that. Otherwise you are as a little dog biting at my heels. If you cannot understand F. David Peat or David Bohm, you have no cause to put me down since I once was in communication with the above leaders in human intellect. You are as a fly and I have yet to see anything of real knowledge spouting from your keyboarding here. In fact I received an e-mail from F. David Peat only this morning. He was thanking me for inviting him to stay at my house any time he is in my area. You have no effect on what I put forth at all.

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Hi Orion, are you saying that the "little dog biting at your heels" is putting you down!? Please clarify???

..and, please make-up your mind now about me being a "fly" or a "dog"! Which one is it!?

So now I have two questions for you:

Q1: What one?

Q2: Which one?

You finally say "You have no effect on what I put forth at all". Well then you just cannot or do not understand cause and effect... [Smile]

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You learn like the class clown. I had enough of them when I taught.

Running off at the mouth all the time...never listening and never going beyond — just full of your own self...not unlike me, but at least I am open to the masters.

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..or maybe you were the "class clown" when you taught! LOL!!!

Q3: Beyond what? [Smile]

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In summary:

Q1: What one?

Q2: Which one?

Q3: Beyond what? [Smile]

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No, I was a Suma cume Laude Educator. 80% of my students were successful in advanced areas. I feel you are still a high school student judging by the way you respond. Either grow up are get out of here.
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> I feel you are still a high school student
> judging by the way you respond.

Then the main reference for your "feelings" is scrambled (confused) and/or you're a very bad judge! [Frown]

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Has anyone seen my paddle???
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Which one (paddle this time)!?
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Q1: What one?

Q2: Which one?

Q3: Beyond what?

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I think he is saying that like a knat you irritate him. [Smile] Or like a little dog who nips at his heels. [Smile] What are we talking about anyway?
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Hi Brig, I believe that we were talking about nothing...zero (0)... [Smile]
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