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Who were the builders of the Giza Complex? What the builders knew. It strikes me immediately that the concerned arguments surrounding who exactly built this huge purposeful complex cannot agree on a few on a few fundamental principles.
Firstly, let’s once and for all dismiss the Pharonic trio, Khufu, Khafre and Menkaure. They simply have no further place in this discourse. We are, however, discussing a well formed society whose scientific elite matches, if not excels, those of the 21st Century; and , if I may add, utilised forms of practical high technology that modern man has yet to turn its attention to, or is simply unaware of. I will not shower you with the staggering amount of technically accomplished details that are built into the Giza Complex. Those details are available to anyone, and have been so for many years. What I will draw your attention to is the nature of the builders and their association with Pure Mathematics that might have led them towards using different technologies that we are yet to be familiar with.
What the builders knew. As I mentioned the builders of the Giza Complex knew about Pure Math; that deep understanding of mathematical theory that underlies all technical achievement. This is just not knowing ’numbers’ is also having a profound understanding of art and astrophysics and being able to securely exploit and transmit this information. This is the coding of information to ensure ‘built in’ checks for error, coupling this with projected geometry, the points and lines that lead to infinity. No one really should be too surprised to realise this is all the corner stone of modern computing vision, where fast data programmes are required to solve immediate problems. In effect the ancient builders of the Giza Complex were, we could say, computer literate. That knowledge of Pure Math also translated into Applied Mathematics, an understanding of which describes the builders as also having a profound knowledge of such diverse fields as engineering, physics, biology, economics, environmental studies, chemistry, political studies, medicine. Neither of these civilisational mustsThe Society of the Builders. can exist without the other. So, the builders were indeed inhabiting a high civilisational society that worked for the benefit of the whole and not the few, and had a vested interest in their civilisation surviving for the future.
The Society of the Builders. We must of course make hazardous assumptions when determining what type of society could have produced ‘computer literate’ scientists as I simply describe above. In reality that is not an assumption, rather a pointed fact. However, what type of society produced such brilliant minds in our pre-history? I believe, who ever they were, totally controlled their environment, doing so globally. It follows that they were highly regulated and probably used real-time communications in their ‘tool box’ of technologically advanced methods of regulation. It would also mean that their citizens were also empowered, able to trade goods and knowledge without surrendering economic growth. That had to be possible in order for technology to advance and be supported. In effect, I feel, that society pre-dating c12000 years ago, very much paralleled our own, though possibly much less chaotic than ours; as if their ancient governance was benign, controlling the whole demographic nature of the society, eliciting an obedience than ran through the generations. Quite possibly, in this respect, they might have believed themselves to be ‘chosen people’ entirely rigid in their allegiance to what ever that ‘government body’ was. I venture further to say, that it was quite a religious obedience, though not spiritual in practice, but an obedience wrought of out fear, perhaps the fear of losing the benign benevolence they enjoyed. Therefore, that governance was ‘godlike’ but with ‘Gods’ who they could see and physically communicate with - without having the need to pray to the heavens, as humanity practices do today - because these ‘Gods’ lived amongst them.
This society would certainly not number in the billions. Such ‘benign’ governance would not allow this. Here we must identify with our modern world where no independent country is comfortable with the worlds huge and ever expanding population. That ancient ‘perfect’ society would be strictly controlled in as many ways as one can imagine a strict society to be.
So our Giza Complex builders, I hazardously assume, belonged to a small manageable society, so technologically advanced, that other ‘non-chosen’ peoples around the earth, and outside the ’chosen’ habitat, probably lived in fear and awe of.
Tools of the builders. In 1752, Voltaire wrote Micromégas , a short story in which two giant visitors from Outer Space visit earth and try make sense of humankind’s global obsession with scientific measurement and propensity for pointless warfare at the cost of genuine happiness. In Micromégas , Voltaire describes the unusual technology of the spacemen, “…of monster speaking-trumpets, like huge funnels…”
Is this some sort of sonic tool?
(If you are British then all will be aware of Dr Who’s ‘Sonic Screwdriver - a marvellous ‘do-it-all’ bit of kit that always saves the planet from destruction)
Seriously, Sonic Technology, of the type that allegedly blew down the walls of Jericho appears to be the technology of the impossible. A new frontier that science has yet to develop over and beyond the tried and tested heavy motorised lift plant we use today. Imagine for a moment using tools that defy the forces of gravity! What a marvellous thought!! No more reliance on fossil fuels, no lung choking combustion, no oil industry. Everything that has to be moved or given velocity governed purely by sound. Impossible? Not so, as it happens.
Sonic technology is actively being engaged as an alternative industrial science today. (do check this out for yourselves) We know that the power of sound is endless, when we consider that everything of organic/physical matter has its own inherent frequency: Stone, wood, living tissue, light - everything. Imagine tapping into those frequencies, imagine what you could do? Before 12000 years ago would be it be equally impossible for that technology to be of common use?
If sonic power was used in our pre-history, as I seriously suggest to you all that it was, then building the impossible, the Giza Complex, Stonehenge, Machu Picchu, and all the Megaliths of our ancient times would not be such an impossible task after all.
Sonic power would be of high precision operating to exacting measurement to cut, pull, lift/suspend and impart velocity. So, a 1 pound stone would really be no different to one weighing 200 tons. How long then would it take to quarry, dress and transport the many millions of multi-ton stone blocks used in the construction of the Giza Complex, the Pyramids, Causeways, Sphinx and Valley Temple? Not long I would assume. In fact I would suggest the planning effort of such a massive construction would probably take more time than its physical execution. We may well have a hint of this within the Scared Sermon, of ancient Egyptian origin, that writes of, “Lordly Men who lived before the flood and whose civilisation was destroyed, who left mighty memorials of their handiworks upon the earth…” What mighty technology did they actually have?
Let me cut out a few paragraphs of mine here so that I can arrive at something our modern material senses can come to grips with…
I have some questions… Is it likely that these devoted builders, who knew their ‘Gods’ by sight are survived only by our ignorance of their existence? They knew this would happen. They knew that the world-wide cataclysm of 11500 years ago would ultimately return mankind to back to Stone Ages. They knew that something of their existence had to stand the test of geological convulsion if anything of their knowledge was to be preserved. Indeed, we instinctively look towards a world yet unknown and ask, “What did they know?” What in our limited vision has blinded us to the true nature of our past? What conditions our ignorance? Is it that we are wrapped up by religious experience, reverence of the ‘mystical’ that ignores the infinite goodness of the underlying heritage passed down to us by improbable ‘things’ such as the Giza Complex?
Religious truth, if there is ever such a thing, is not a truth about this world, but about another world, world different from this one, one formulated by edicts and creeds.
Whoever built the Giza Complex had humanity and its continued survival in mind. No creed was required other than us finding and understanding this instrument of survival. A lasting act of mans humanity for his sons and daughters to come.
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Could they have been survivors from Atlantis? This could explain a lot.
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Atlantis, to my mind, covers a wide area of lost civilisation search. I earlier proposed that this civilisation began to spread itself, probably from an Antartic habitat, moving northwards as the climate began to change.
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You know I wonder if the Arctic was actually Atlantis and that it's slowly reappearing. The ice is melting. Remember the Piri Reis Map? It showed it before it was covered in ice.
On the topic: I think that maybe along with the Atlanteans the aliens as well helped to build it. I agree with Tom though because Plato wrote about his grandfather visiting Egypt and in talking with the priests they said that they didn't even know where they came from and that they were there when they got there. This is assuming that the Egyptians as we know them came back to the area after some time when it was still fertile for farming after The Great Flood. I can't remember which book I read about that in but they did have to leave the area for some time because the Nile flooded more than it's regular inundation.
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Botanical samples taken from beneath the ice sheets on Antarctica do show, quite conclusively, that semi-tropical fauna flourished there before 11500 years ago. The fact that ice has preserved this botanical 'mush', in itsself, indicates that this region was victim to a sudden freezing in the same era - c11500BCE
As you point out the Piri Re'is Portolan shows the northern half of the continent free of ice giving rise that still more ancients maps included a known land mass that must have been common knowledge prior to the cataclysmic events of 11500 years ago.
Was the landmass inhabited by some ‘Atlantean’ high civilisation? One can only make assumptions, but it would be inconceivable that Antarctica was uninhabited since we know that practically all the sea shores of the earth has been colonised by mankind.
Today, the under ice land mass of Antarctica remains largely unexplored, through we know that a large sea channel runs through this mountainous continent. I have no doubt this land mass was much further north in pre-cataclysm days before crustal shift sunk it south to the new polar position.
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quote:Originally posted by Zeptepi: Absolutely Tom.
Atlantis, to my mind, covers a wide area of lost civilisation search. I earlier proposed that this civilisation began to spread itself, probably from an Antartic habitat, moving northwards as the climate began to change.
John.
Zep Tepi,
I am wondering if the Atlantean civilization was spread out all over and that remnants are found today everywhere if Atlantis was as big as I'm thinking it is. I know I've read where South America and even up in Europe are remnants of people such as the cave drawings of both peoples are the same designs. Perhaps the Artic is not Atlantis itself but maybe a remnant that got lost because of the crustal shift and subsequent ice cover.
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This indeed did happen. One has but to look at the shift marks on the bottom of the Ocean to see that Antarctica did move many hundreds of miles to its present position. If one were to look at the bottom of a globe and see...there is but one ocean surrounding Antartica...one true Ocean.
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Bear, You make another good point when you suggest that ‘Atlantean’ remnants are to be found everywhere. I agree - they are!.
Of course the remnants are not those that one would expected of a high civilisation, but neither are they of so called Stone, Bronze or Iron Age societies. The remnants we see in the cave paintings are not, certainly to my mind, of evolutionary groups of humanity, they are images made by groups of survivors. Those people were probably as every bit as sophisticated and intelligent as we are today. They were quite simply dealing with the appalling ‘back to earth’ circumstances that wiped out practically every trace of a society their close ancestors enjoyed.
Several thousand years passed before they even started to regain what was before, though I suspect, they were given a helping hand on the way.
John.
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Gee guys get over it. the findings under the sphinx will only be the frist people of the atlas that came out of Africa. The sphinx is a record within it self.
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'Gee guys get over it.' Doc, Thanks for the advice - I sometimes think I should do exactly that! However, after 30 years of research, travel and writing I now feel that I'm actually getting somewhere. Have you read the the first post in this thread? It's all about technology needed to acheive the building of the Giza Complex (which includes the Sphinx) and the people likely to have constructed the complex.
Records? Well perhaps! I have already forwarded that the Sphinx record dispostory has probably been unearthed by Zawi Hawass assisted by Mark Lerhner. Another was said to be found in front of the north face of the GP, 60 feet forward at a depth of 120 foot.
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Check out my Myspace page. I took this quiz someone created to find out which Egyptian God you are and I scored Thoth on it. I thought it rather interesting.
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I put my link to my page in my profile if you want to see it.
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Bear, you will have to post it here, because certain aspects of the profiles have been removed due to some new members posting porn sites.
Sorry. But, if you put your link here, I'm sure we would enjoy it.
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There is a big scandal over Myspace near Big Bend...San Antonio — where students are getting in a lot of trouble posting some near pornographic materials. I told my daughter not to use it. Are there no some nicer sites for our girls to post at? Secondly, why do girls post information about themselves? Do they not know of identity theft and worse??? It is not easy being a girl these days...I have watched my daughters and their plight as well as some of my students...One must stand up for a positive aspect to their reputation.
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Well Orion that is why they can make the profile private or fix it so that only people that know them would have to put in a password in order to add them or see their profile. I belong to another page but it is like Myspace. It is called Tagged. I assure you I don't ever post anything pornographic or near and would never. It is agaisnt the Myspace rules and if such photos are posted or uploaded to your pictures you can get your profile deleted if caught. Lately they have been deleting a lot of people's profiles for this reason but they are even going so far as censorship though.
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Here in Akron about a week ago the local newspaper ran a big story on myspace. Some local highschoolers were posting some things on their spot and it caught the attention of someone. It has been a hot topic the past few days. The kids were upset because they felt they were being spied on. Really! On the internet? Some parents are upset at their ''darlings' behavior; male and female.
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..............To understand the City of Atlantis......... .....You have to understand the culture of Atlanteans.....
Q] Is the Atlantic Ocean a Myth? A] No, it divides America from Europe and Africa.
Q] Why do they call it the Atlantic Ocean? A] Because it was named from the Atlantean cultures.
Q] Why do they call it the Atlas Mountains in NW Africa? A] Because it was named after the Atlantean cultures.
Q] What are Atlantean cultures? A] Any groups of human beings who existed in or around the Atlantic Ocean, such as America, S. America, Arctic, Europe, Africa, Antarctica and any Atlantic Islands like Azores, Iceland, England, Thule, Madeira, Canary Islands, Jamaica, Bahamas, Bimini, St. Tome, Cape Verde, Barbados, Antilles, etc, etc....
Q] Are Atlantean cultures a Myth? A] No, because Archaeologists and Herodotus told us about these cultures who lived in Africa on her western coasts and around the Atlas Mountains and in Western Europe to the extremity of the Pillars of Hercules or Gibraltar Straits as recorded by us.
Q] Why do people dismiss Atlantean cultures in general? A] Because they are not tutored in our World Histories and generally are fixated by the notion that Atlanteans come from a magical underwater city as portrayed in modern Fables.
Q] Who are the Atlanteans? A] The cultures who existed in and around the Atlantic Ocean and were predominant in settling Africa, Europe, S. America and America, both from the land bridge crossings of Iceland and The Bering Strait in China and Alaska and from crossing over on boats or early ship types.
Mostly, we know the Atlantean by different names in the course of our Archaeological studies, which most scholars name these cultures according to their pottery types, industries, or cultural styles and traits, while most names are not what those ancients would have called themselves such as The Bell Beaker Cultures of Europe or Cave people being called The Stone Age people.
Q] What are some of the names early Atlanteans were known by or still are known by, other than Atlantean? A] I would say to compliment the rise of civilizations ca 50,000.bC, would be a good apex to research Atlantean cultures from, other than 100,000.bC Cro-Magnon, or 1 million b.C Neanderthals.
In Europe, some of these early Atlanteans were known as Aterian, Azilian, Aetolian, (who were writing and developed our Alphabet ca 12,000.bC) Celtoi, or Celts, Cimmerians, Basques and Navarros, who are a fading culture bordering France and Spain and are related to the Guanche cultures of the Canary Islands. Some of their modern names are; Portuguese, English, Scandinavian, French (Gallic), Spanish,(Gaulic) Italian, Germans, Ukrainians, Belgians, Norwegians, Russians, Polish, Serbians, Latvian, Greeks, Cyclades or the early Vinca cultures around Romania, Bulgaria and Macedonia who were writing around 6000.bC.
In Africa we also find Azilian, Aterians, Berber, Moors, Tuaregs, Capsians or Capstans, Qadans, Atalantes, Atarantes, Gualata, Alata, Troglodytes, Dogones, Garamantes, Maxyans, Lotophagi, or simply Libyans, Egyptians or Gerzeans, Natufians, Fayums and Aetiopians from Kush and Sudan or Arabians upon the Sinai. Mauretanians, as they were known in the 12th centuries. In S. America we find Mayans, Aztec, Incans, Peruvians, Mexicans, and other jungle tribes. In America we find Native Indians like Mohawk, Apache, Kennewick Man, Ojibuay, Cree,Chippewa, Mexicans, or the Canadian First Nations. Afro-Americans, etc, etc.
In Asia we find Anatolians, Turkish, Black Sea Cultures, (Tartars) Georgians, Carians, Ionians, Lydians, Arabians, Persians, Sumerians, Akkadians, Indians, Assyrians, like the earlier palaeolithic Enyans who became the Phoenician cultures upon the Levant with Byblos, Tyre and Sidon, and Cypriot cultures of Cyprus and Rhodes.
Basically, as my translations of the 10 Atlantean Kings names suggest, the Atlanteans were predominant around the ENTIRE MEDITERRANEAN.
When people really and truly understand this, and understand that English and our Alphabet comes from Linear A and not Linear B, then they will also come to grasp with reality, that...
PREDOMINATELY WE ARE ATLANTEANS FROM OUR HISTORICAL STUDIES.
We speak, read and write these evolved words today into English, from earlier Atlanteans.
Atlantean – Aterian – Azilian – Aetolian – Linear A – Latin - English
THE EARTHLAND PEOPLE.
TA LAN EARTH LAND TA-(Tara/Terra) = Ancient name for EARTH A = Risen or Origin A TA LAN = Risen Earth Land
TA - TEN -EN = Ancient Egyptian Risen Earth Land ATAL-ANTIC (Antique,Antiquity,Antigua,Antiquo > Ancient) Agua/Aqua = Water (Gua = Throat) ATALANTIC(Atlantic) > Risen Earth Land of Antiquity ATALAS (Atlas) > Risen Earth Stone > Mountain
Why is it so hard for people to understand that Atlanteans simply means the most antique cultures of our modern world?
That is why it IS THE OLDEST LEGEND PRESERVED.
Older than the Great Flood.
The only significance to discovering the City of Atlantis is to prove that the city actualy existed like Troy, but not to prove that Atlantean Cultures exist.
The importance of finding the City of Atlantis is in hope of discovering ancient recordings of our advanced and evolved knowledge as we know it today and to satisfy our curiosities of a 12,000 year old legend which was revealed 2577 years ago in 570.bC from Pharaoh Amasis and Uadjahor-Resne.
The Egyptians even told us, and they were smarter than anyone else around them in antiquity and histories, that their teachings and wisdom came from a Risen Earth Land WESTWARD of themselves in the Delta Nile to TATENEN or Zep-Tepi if you like.
You now do realize that Africa is Atlantean also. Where do they say your oldest bones and roots of dna go back to? Tanzania? Aetiopia? Old Duvai Gorge?
The Land of JA.
You can run or curse, or alter our Histories, but you can't hide the great Truth of The Law of One.
ATLANTEANS AND AENGLISH.
Linear A Translations by Riven;
EARTH (Eart / Ert)
EA-Risen, in the air, above, so high RA- King, Kingdom TA- Earth, IS, IT, I AM. HA- Here, in this place, also
SA - Son/Child/kin JA- Father, God, Know RA – King, Kingdom
God's Risen Kingdom of Earth.
Know this and retain your histories of your ROOTS.
God, The Father IS REAL. Atlanteans are Real.
Who in this modern or ancient history of our World has a human been able to show you God, The Father Self Creator at Work in a physical dimension of vision for us to See?
Paulo J. Tx. Mn has.....
With the True Garden of Humans in Tanzania, Africa.
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Point of that post is that the Pyramids were built by the Atlanteans and God.ca 3500-4500.bC.
Provenance.
Africans are Atlanteans Edgar Cayce Hall of Records Atlantean Chronicles Missing Sphinx NW of The Red Pyramid God The Father's words to me; "Just as the Pyramids I shaped for you." Serapaeums,Temples Apis Bulls Secret Teachings The Lion faces East The Secret of The Son of Man The Secret of Carina Nebula
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I wonder that too Riven. Our culture seems to be obsessed with "The Star In The East". Some say it is Venus but maybe it is actually another Earth like you say. In one book that I read it discussed the meaning of America. It suggested that the name was not from Amerigo Vespucci(sp) but instead it is from the French La Merika which means "The Star In The East". Think about it and think about all those people that migrated to the Americas.
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I just think our society has become a little too loose and it is filtering down to the children who are emulating the behavior/s. My sister-in-law is teaching a course in manners and has received tons of requests from parents to teach their children and now businesses are also setting up seminars for the same thing for their employees. I am thinking of doing the same thing for Corporations. As a former educator and communications consultant, I think I might be good at it. I have a dry humor. Manners went out the window in 1963 when liberalism declared a culture war on America with their buds in the ACLU and Hollywood. We are paying dearly for our loose cannons on deck. They do not know what they are doing to a once great nation.
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> I just think our society has become a little > too loose...
The maps are easy to make Z, they are just bathymetric or satellite maps, filled in where you would see water flow or land below, with microsoft paint program combined with historical knowledge, such as Herodotus told us about the westward nile and Lake Tritonis.
Right click any picture you have saved on your hard drive and click "edit".
Away you go.
(By the way, did you know there is a letter "Z", on the Egyptian Tomb 100 map from ca 3200-3500.bC in the south east corner?)
There is also horses in the north east corner and lions in the north west corner. (scholars tell you the horse and chariot came from the Hyksos ca 1600.bC-- ???)
I believe it to be a map of the mediterranean, and not somewhere south along the nile as Egyptian scholars think.
Then again, I don't think like Scholars, I think like a Seer with predirection and faith from gathered knowledge.. I have an uncanny way of knowing where to look, and for those things to become a piece of our puzzle for our Planet.
Though many disbelieve, fear, and scorn.
Well, they did say us Atlanteans were the most advanced culture from 12,000 years ago....
That is why my acceptance is so hard today, because what I have to say, shatter's everyones principals of history and religion.
A Religion they use for personal gain, and not to gain The Father, but money, greed, lust and perversions.
Because it is too far ahead, and too strong for our politics, education systems and religions.
They'll buy your wacky Orion theories, or Mars Faces and Area 52 stories.....
Tell the world the truth, and they seek to shut you down because they are "The Web", like all the other "Aries" names.
As they did recently in PhysOrg forums, for a bunch of jerks who kept spamming me, as they did in Graham Hancock forums for revealing the Atlantean Machine, as they may so too here and in other forums to seek to shut down the truth of their deceptions.
I can only hope to be fortunate to remain posting here, but money talks and bulldoodoo walks as the philosophy of intelligence dictates.
After all, they are just "Money Puppets", no one really owns anything and everyone is in debt, no matter how rich they are.
Is it a surprise Anna Nicole Smith just died of her millionaires disease?
Naturaly, they especialy don't like me because I seek as a Good King to take money and WMD's, away from everyone, and shut down fossil fuels in exchange for magnetism,crystals and naturaly pure energies such as hold up our Earth.
I seek to advance us as an entire world, to advance our Space frontiers, our Sciences, our medicines, our educations, our healthcares,
.....without a single penny but with the Tri-Caria Merit System.
Because I would look after everyone with the best of care as I would for myself. No one is different. Only their beliefs, some good, some bad.
They also seek to shut me down because I know the True Father and what His Face looks like.
I know what happened to his Son.
I know where they buried him.
I know precisely the day of His disappearance.
How could I know all these things?
Because some things were meant to be, and no one can change that.
God, has a reason for me.
I do not have a reason for myself.
I have reasoned with myself.
In search of my Royal Bloodlines as told to me by my Earth Father, Paulo B. Mn.
Google Azores, where I was born, and you discover Atlantis.
This is how all this came to be.
Stranger than Fiction because it is simply my Truth of Historical research.
Imagine that.
My name is not Dan Brown, nor J.R.R.Tolkien.
My name is Paulo.
Just as you knew, APOLLO.
To face wisdom, is to grace Truth.
Knowledge is Power.
Truth is power of Knowledge.
To Know IS Immortal.
I only want you to know, not give me your money.
In return, I will give you my love.
Peace be with you All.
By the Grace of My Face upon Your True Garden.
Don't let the darkness envelope you.
Look to each others Eyes.
Sa Ja Ra Paulo J Tx Mn
Riven The Seer and Royal Bloodline To Atlantis.
A grain of Truth though they persecute me as they did my brothers.
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It's strikes me as odd that people would instantly rule out divine assistance and jump to crazy alien theories so quickly. The Gods of ancient times were unlike the "monotheisic" Gods of today that supposedly are ethereal incorporeal beings, the Gods of ancient times did walk on the Earth.
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Riven, you smokin' that electric lettuce again?
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I am sick of flippancy...It is time to get serious...The Left of this country has declared civil war against its own nation shoving every immoral activity into our faces…It is time to expose those who are doing this and ask them why…They do not care about your children and they darn sure do not care about our troops. Girls. it is time you woke up!
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Your on the wrong topic Orion.
You smokin' that 'lectric lettuce too?
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I'm new to this forum so I'll be gentle.... Where is the evidence of atlantians and aliens building the Giza complexe. It is extremely insulting to the ancient egyptians who built it. The evidence of the egyptians building it is quite literally written on the walls. Kufu's name is even written at the top of the great pyramid (inside). And where is the so called "advanced tech." that was used?
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Or even critical precursor technology needed to eventually produce the so called "advanced tech".
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Robert there is great contoversy about that. I won't take sides in this matter, but be forwarned there are other plausible explainations for Kufres name. He wouldn't be the first Pharoah to take credit for someones else work.He may have simply repaired the pyramid. This is just an example. Another is; sometimes archeologists fake facts to fit their theories.We can really split some hairs on these forums. Posts: 14491 | From: Old Washington, Ohio , USA | Registered: Apr 2002
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The Egyptians are the people who live in Egypt. There have always been in-migration forces of populations enering from the south via the Nile, the west via the tuaregs, the Mediterranean via sea peoples and others and possibly via the Red Sea into Nile tributaries.
The Egyptians despite of or perhaps because of this influx, developed one of the most culturally strong and durable civilizations in history.
The Nile Valley was therefore "never settled by Atlanteans". The fact is that it has ALWAYS been settled and they have ALWAYS been Egytptians.
Olduvai Gorge is only a short distance away and humans have been there for millions of years. Therefore crediting Atlanteans for settling the Nile Valley is absurd.
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Why would archeologists "fake" anything? I very much doubt that they are in the business of lying. It's not a theory that the Egyptians built the pyramids. If people from Atlantis built the pyramids., why isn't there any writings saying that they did?
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quote:. It's not a theory that the Egyptians built the pyramids. If people from Atlantis built the pyramids., why isn't there any writings saying that they did?
The Egyptians had a habit of changing "history", look @ how some pharohs would take credit of predacesors or just try to erase them from history with chisles.
And where are all the egyptian writting's of building the G.P. ???
-------------------- KNOW that as ye do unto the least of thy associates ye do unto the GOD within THEE that is in the image of the God without. I_AM that I_AM, and that I_AM, and that I_AM,and that I_AM, and that I_AM ! GOD is every I_AM! But every I_AM is not GOD ! Posts: 2902 | From: Nashville, TN. | Registered: Nov 2002
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quote:Originally posted by Robert0326: I'm new to this forum so I'll be gentle.... Where is the evidence of atlantians and aliens building the Giza complexe. It is extremely insulting to the ancient egyptians who built it. The evidence of the egyptians building it is quite literally written on the walls. Kufu's name is even written at the top of the great pyramid (inside). And where is the so called "advanced tech." that was used?
The Egyptians were helped by the aliens or even the Atlanteans. The reference to Kufu written the Great Pyramid was found to be of a hoax and written there when the chambers were discovered because they are of a more modern creation than that of Kufu's time. The pyramids were around even way before Kufu and they were not built as tombs. In Plato's Timeaus and Critias there is a story of his grandfather visiting Egyptian Priests and they had told him that they didn't even know where the pyramids came from and that they were already there when their history began and they had settled in the area.
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quote:Originally posted by Robert0326: Why would archeologists "fake" anything? I very much doubt that they are in the business of lying. It's not a theory that the Egyptians built the pyramids. If people from Atlantis built the pyramids., why isn't there any writings saying that they did?
There was an article sometime ago in AR about an Asian archaeologist getting caught in the act of planting artifacts he sortof "borrowed" from the museum and then claiming he found them. It happens all the time. Zahi Hawass is under the impression that just because a pharaoh has his name on something means they must have built it like Seti (I forget which one). He says that Seti had his name on this temple so he built it instead it was the custom to put their name on buildings they would have rebuilt or restored. So I agree with the previous post that it could be that the particular pharaoh could have made repairs. However Kufu if I'm not mistaken is the Greek rendering of the name and therefore the heiroglyphs are of too modern creation for it to be Kufu. The idea of the pyramids as tombs is also nonesense as the so called sarcophagus is too large to fit through the door and it would have not been put in to place until the funeral rites were finished. The pyrmamid would not have likely been built up around the remains of a pharaoh as they would have wanted to protect the body of the deceased and the time it took to build such things.
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O Ye who speak with unamplified minds...Lubicz. If one were to put two and two together they would surmise and be amplified to the knowledge that there were people in what is now the Mediterranean basin full of a soup of humanity and its ancient past. The Straits of Gibraltar were burst some 12,500 years agone and little by little then a rush of hydra poured into what is now the Mediterranean Sea (see Malta). The Egyptians of 5,000 years ago are the "Johnny come lately's" who were the survivors of a great catastrophe by way of the Nabta Plya area. It is all held in the traditions of the Time Before...Zep Tepi... I will post information here for future study.
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If you really think that the pyramids were built by aliens and atlantians., PROVE IT. If you can't then don't insult my intellegents by stating such nonesense.
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I am.. The writings are written in temples surrounding the great pyramid.. I think everyone sould stop reading new age books and actually start reading "real books" on Egypt.
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Robert, the real books have been read and they CLANK. We are beyond the "real" books because they do not jive...with the facts some of us have already researched. Perhaps you should read a little deeper. There are no Aliens...only cousins. There is no biology on a system in which to experience a physical state of being. There is much more to this experience of being than your rational sense of understanding. It is expansive and requires much more thought. That is why you are here...to become a seeker. The book of life is being written as we speak...
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the findings under the sphinx will only be the frist people of the atlas that came out of Africa. The sphinx is a record within it self.
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That's a new one. I like it. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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