Topic: Ancient Pyramid, far older than Egyptian, found in Bosnia!
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I just saw this on CNN, so I trust it must be verified.
The newscaster (Anderson Cooper) was terribly brief. He said:
"An archaelogist believes that this structure may be the remains of an ancient pyramid, built 20 to 10 millenia ago! Excavations have confirmed that it is a man-made structure and that it was heavily populated during the Stone Age. The team is currently trying to find the door to the pyramid."
Wow. I can't find any information on the Internet.
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Dear investigators, Is one simple and current hill natural. Any person with a minimum of formation and knowledge in the matter of geology could to see that is an simple hill natural; the supposed "sandstone slabs" is the natural form in which the limestone rock fragments that composes that hill that in addition is the typical one of that geographic area of the planet.
In Iberia, nevertheless, in the 2000, Georgeos Díaz-Montexano discovered two great circular pyramids with several concentric terraces, and the excavations demonstrated that it was made with blocks of stones and mortar, in addition appeared numerous fragments of ceramics and objects from the time Chalcolithic and Megalithic to the Bronze Age.
In more recent date, hardly years ago several Spanish investigators along with Diaz-Montexano discovered another high pyramid much more, of almost 100 meters of height, also constructed with sillares or stoneslabs and in cover by almost all parts of ceramics of the Chalcolithic and the Bronze Age. Nevertheless, nobody has given no importance. We have very good photos of the details and an archaeological official report to UNESCO appeared.
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It could be the most important discovery of the 21st century.... this, and the so-called Thracian Valley of the Dead!
What interests me most is that the people who would have built it may very well have been the Pelasgians.... who gave their name to Pelasgic or Cyclopean masonry and were renown as the best stonemasons in the ancient world.
How does this compare with the pyramids?
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Sig. Cunchillos, a lot is interested in being able to read the article originates them over pyramids of Spain. The memory that in Italy has left the news (but was much short one) in Magazine "Archeo", to those a moment has produced a great effect, because the photos were a lot convicentes, by of the blocks, perfectly squared. And in how much a hinge is not not to adapt neither, seemed to those of Egypt and the Perù. I do not have problems with the Spanish, poichè could be taken place to an unit or one copy? Of the others they are in the favor in agreement with you.
In the photos of the presumed pyramid of the Bosnia, simple a natural hill can be only seen, and the stones are fractured of the natural sense moreover. It does not includeunderstand as it is that someone can offer credibility to these news, without to hope to see the tests that they are more conclusive and definitive?
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Dr Thor Heyerdahl had viewed Samoa with great interest for a number of years. He saw these islands as pivotal in our understanding of the settlement of Polynesia. In 1985 he made a visit to Samoa together with Norwegian archaeologists in order to continue and expand on the work he had already done on Easter Island and in East-Polynesia. He wanted to carry out research in the western part of Polynesia, the contact area with Melanesia.
It was not until his interest was reawakened recently by the keen observation of a German tourist couple that Dr Heyerdahl turned his attention to the Pulemelei site on the island of Savaii. He worked closely with the research department in the Kon-Tiki Museum in Oslo, Norway that he had founded, and had put together a project staff of international archaeologists representing prestigious institutions from several countries and continents.
The site of Pulemelei had been surveyed in 1969 but extensive archaeological investigation remained for Dr Heyerdahl to plan. This he was actively doing, even travelling to Samoa together with his wife, Jacqueline Beer Heyerdahl in February 2002 to see for himself what in the summer of 2004 prooved to be to be the largest pre-historic stone structure of a pyramid, in the Pacific.
Although its original purpose and the identity of its creators remain mysteries, the pyramid-like Pulemelei Mound is the largest ancient structure in Polynesia. Built on a stone base 65 by 60 meters square that appears to have been oriented to the cardinal directions, the earthen superstructure of the mound now rises 12 meters high over the island of Savai’i, which is considered by some to be the cradle of Polynesian civilization. Settlements dating to ca. A.D. 1000–1600 are associated with the site, but the actual date of its construction is unknown.
I couldn't give a shit, in all due respect, about pyramids in Spain. I'm talking about Bosnian pyramids. Read the headline. I don't care about Atlantis in this post, nor about Spanish circular pyramids (also called cones) or about Mr. Montexano's theories. I've been preached enough.
Apparently you and I are the only ones who recognize that this discovery has the potential of being a sensational find. It could change the history books!
True, it may not have anything to do with Atlantis directly, but it does push civilization back to a much earlier period as Plato affirmed in Timaeus and Critias.
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It does. I would like to know more, but there isn't too much information.
All I can find is that there are seven slabs in the pyramid, and they are all of sandstone, a stone not native in the region, which means that someone put them there.
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To answer your question, if this predates the Egyptian pyramids AND they demonstrate astronomical alignments then WOW! They are like older than the Egpytians and smarter too!
They could be the teachers to the Egyptians...But who taught them?
Austria is not so far away from Bosnia, and I speak Russian and Serbo-Croatian, so communicating should not be difficult... I have already done extensive research in the Balkans, especially in Albania and Macedonia. I'll have to pay a visit to Bosnia.... and I think I'll talk to the professor who found it.
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Hi!
Oh Wow!
I am so happy to see such amazing and knowedgeable people on this board such as yourself!
I can hardly wait to hear what your Serb-Croat friend says!
Can you please, please, please get slope angles, heights perimeters and foundation alignments when you talk with your friend? That would be soooo cool!
Also very, very, very important. Please confirm if construction blocks are of an approximate uniform size. If so, we must know the average measurements of these blocks.
Thank you so much Sir! This is like so very, very, very important!
quote:"They could be the teachers to the Egyptians...But who taught them?"
What I believe is;
The Tarxiens who settled Malta.
The Key is Lower Egypt, rather than Egypt.
Lower Egypt was a different culture of people than their Upper Egyptian counterparts,due mainly to the diversity of cultures settling in the Delta from the Mediterranean and Libya.
Malta was already building Temples from 5000.bC.
They would be considered the first advanced "Cylopean builders" of Stone and Architecture.
Aghia Triada/Crete and Tarxien,Malta,had been sailing to Lower Egypt since 3500.bC as we can clearly see from the Tomb 100 map.
Before our known list of Pharaohs from Menes, which the Great Pyramid is said to have been built around 2400.bC to Khufu.
If you believe that vaca de madre.
These Tarxiens came from Taraconensis,Iberia and also erected Stonehenge around 3000.bC.
They also settled the Atlantic Islands such as England, Madeira and Canary Islands where we also find Pyramids.
Another older Pyramid can also be found in Greece.
What I feel is the meaning of the Pyramid, is that it represents Man in the Image of God.
So it is Sacred as we can see for the lack of Heiroglyphs upon Pyramids and a King and Queens chamber inside representing the Duat of Humanity within GOD.
The Geminii Twins > Man and Woman who are one within the Temple of God.
GOD = A, where the symbol for man is also ^, and v for woman.
As we know,as many cultures also do, the belief in Self Creating Gods who gave birth to man and woman.
In other words,Scientificaly, Zygotes and Gametes.
So also from the Pyramid, we see man and woman coming from God, and the symbology of Fruitful growth and Power such as the Canal of Atlantis also represented.
With respect to the Pyramids in Bosnia and Herr claiming they were 10 to 20 millenia ago seems unlikely.
The stones would reach that age, but I feel the construction of that Pyramid would have been tied in around 4000-3000.bC also in tune with the Cucetani cultures there.
It is a very interesting find which hopefully will reveal some new surprises!!
I also believe that initialy, Pyramids and Sphinxes came from Atlantis, and why we can find them on either side of the Atlantic.
It seems more probable to think that since the Lower Egyptians were in the age of Taurus, that they would have placed a "Bulls" head on the Sphinx.
quote:As is well known there are literally hundreds of pyramids of various styles scattered over the Earth, in Europe, Africa, the Middle East and Far East, Southeast Asia and South Pacific, and in North and South America. A few of these sites demonstrating the different styles are:
Iraq: The reconstructed ziggurat-pyramid at Ur, in ancient Sumer.
Egypt: The step pyramid at Saqqara.
Egypt: The smooth-walled pyramids at Giza. Hancock and Bauval (1996) suggest that the ‘ground plan’ of the three great pyramids was physically established in 10,500 bc, but that the pyramids were built around 2,500 bc. This supports the notion that the pyramid base rock with its underground chamber was an early AA terminal, and the Sphinx was the associated landmark easily identified from space.
Mexico: The highly decorated step pyramids at Chichen-Itza, Monte Alban, and elsewhere. In the Temple of Inscriptions at Palenque, a shaft runs from the tomb up to the temple floor, similar to some of the Egyptian pyramids. There was initially a 40 ft "comb" on the top. Was this an additional identifying marker?
Mexico: The unusual elliptical pyramid at Uxmal.
Mexico: The huge, unexcavated pyramid at Cholula (Fig 4-1), in the shadow of the volcano, Popocatepetl ("El Popo"). Its ancient name, Tlachihualtepetl, means "man-made mountain". On Quetzalcoatl’s pilgrimage his first stop was Cholula, which means ‘the place of flight’ in Nahuatl. The huge "Piramide Tepanapa", 200 ft high and 1300 ft on a side, is the largest ancient pyramid in the Americas, and possibly the largest in the world. The earliest construction has been traced to 200 bc. It was covered with dirt to hide it from the invading Spaniards and a small shrine was placed at the top, which the Spanish replaced with a church (Fig 4-1). The small portion which has been excavated reveals remarkable masonry. Mexico: Tres Zapotes, an Olmec site (1300 – 400 bc), was the first adobe-brick pyramid site in Mesoamerica. (Mystery buffs please note: Before the arrival of Cortez ALL of the Olmec sites were destroyed, except El Tijin, which had been abandoned!)
Mexico: The truncated cone pyramid of Cuicuilco. In 1917 Manuel Gamio, excavating off the road from Mexico City to Cuernavaca, found an overgrown hill called ‘Cuicuilco’ enveloped by pre-historic lava streams. It turned out to be an enormous ancient pyramid or truncated cone with four galleries and central staircase. It is one of the few remaining round stepped pyramids. The base is 370 ft and it is about 60 ft high now, although it was originally much higher. Archeologist Paul Heinrich reports the age to be 800 to 600 bc, not 6000 bc as reported by others. (Miller, 2000)
Mexico: The beautiful miniature pyramid at Cecilia, D.F.
Mexico: The platform-pyramids at Teotenango, Tenayaca, and Tula.
Mexico: The multi-platform style of the Pyramid of the Sun, Teotihuacan. In his discussion of Teotihuacan, John Michel (1995) quotes another researcher: "During the 1970s Hugh Harleston, Jr …established that ‘the basic unit of measurement at Teotihuacan was 1.0594 meters, the same unit which represents the ‘Jewish rod’ of 3.4757 ft., the same unit which represents the width of the Stonehenge lintels, a six-millionth part of the earth’s polar radius…’"
Guatemala: The huge pre-classic (150 bc-150 ad) Mayan site of El Mirador with its dozens of pyramids, including the Tigre Pyramid rising 18 stories high, probably the largest pyramid ever built by the Maya.
Peru: Moche Temple of the Sun. The earlier Moche built this temple-pyramid style pyramid from 140 million adobe bricks.
Peru: Sipan Pyramid. This Moche pyramid-tomb near the town of Sipan proves that some of the early SA pyramids were tombs, as in Egypt and Mesoamerica.
Peru: Pyramids of Cahuachi. A ceremonial site comprised of six pyramids, the highest being about 70 ft, overlooking a walled court of 4050 sq yards. (Morrison, 1988). Hadingham (1987) mentions that the "great temple" was a stepped pyramid. He quotes Helaine Silverman’s estimate that the period of most activity at Cahuachi was short lived, about 200 years, and the site was mysteriously abandoned around 200 ad, along with other several other important sites.
Peru: The pyramids of Tucume. "Covering over 540 acres and including 26 major pyramids as well as myriad smaller structures…first built around 1100 ad by people of the Lambayeque culture…" The largest of the adobe brick pyramids, Huaca Larga, is 2300 ft long, 910 ft wide and 65 ft high. (Heyerdahl, 1995). Robert Schoch (1999) writes, "The largest of the pyramids, called Tucume…was only a little over 200 feet high, but it contained one-third more volume that the Pyramid of Khufu at Giza."
Peru: Huaca del Sol, Moche Valley. This is a 120 ft high pyramid on the Peruvian north coast. The 1.5 million mud brick pyramid is the largest man-made mound in SA. Facing Huaca del Sol across the main plaza was a smaller mound, Huaca del Luna. The site lies at the foot of Cerro Blanco, an obvious landmark from space for this ceremonial/feeding center (Hadingham, 1987)
Bolivia: The Akapana platform-pyramid at Tiahuanaco. The Bolivian archaeologists date the site to 1580 bc. The Akapana measures 688 ft on a side and is 49 ft high. "The earthen interior was shaped like a stepped pyramid and faced with fitted stones." (Demetrio, 1983)
Java: Cani Sukuh pyramid, resembling the Mexico pyramid style (Childress, 1996). Who carried this style across the Pacific?
Ryukyu Islands: The Yonaguni underwater pyramid. This unique step-pyramid-platform, 240 ft long and 90 ft high, resting 75 ft underwater, has been dated to 8000 bc! (Dopatka, 2000)
China: The White Pyramid, near Xi’an. Hartwig Hausdorf (1998) says there are 90-100 pyramids in China, near Xi’an, the tallest being about 200 ft. Xi’an incidentally is the site of the amazing ‘Terracotta Army’ of Qin Shi Huang.
Polynesia: "modest pyramids" at Tongatabu; a temple-pyramid on Tahiti; the Langi stepped pyramid-platform at Tauhala (a large stone, 24 x 7 ft and weighing 30-40 tons, is in the wall).
Ancient pyramids are also found on Samoa and Java. (Childress, 1996)
Greece: Pyramid of Hellinikon, near Argos. The author writes, "…built in the style reminiscent of cyclopean walls…" Its base is 15 x 13 meters, and the tallest wall still standing it only 14 ft. From the photos it probably would have stood about 10 meters high when completed. Thermoluminescent analysis of the pyramid in 1997 yielded a construction date of 2720 bc, older than the archeologists state for the Cheops pyramid! (Tsoukalow, 2000)
Canary Islands: The pyramids of Guimar. Thor Heyerdahl writes, "…They were painstakingly built step-pyramids, constructed according to similar principles as those of Mexico, Peru, and ancient Mesopotamia."
United States: Monk’s pyramid-mound at Cahokia, Illinois, a mud brick platform-pyramid. A large stone wall or room has recently been discovered inside the mound, but has not been excavated as of Oct 2000.
Yonaguni: Situated between the East China Sea and the Philippine Sea, about 300 miles from Okinawa, is the island of Yonaguni-Jima. Off it's coast is a huge apparently manmade (god-made?) monument about 100 ft below the surface. Its a platform pyramid 600 ft wide, 90 ft high constructed of precisely hewn megalithic stones. The pyramid, apparently a part of a ceremonial center, has been dated to 8000 bc, 5000 years before the oldest pyramid in Egypt!
Another site of pyramids - and some of these look like "hills", too.
Pyramids are not exclusive to any country. I mean, really.
And, I have thought about it before - that hillsides, or even some mountains,might be covering other pyramids.
Every new discovery leads us closer & closer to our past. When another one is found, it's barely even noticeable any more. They are becoming as common place as Shuttle launchings, so most of the time, they aren't going to mean anything other than to people like us.
I'm not going to say yea or no until we see what happens further.
Do I doubt it? Not a bit.
So, here's a question.
Why do YOU think that so many of the pyramids are covered with soil?
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Hi Smiley!
Wow, thanks for all the great info!
You guys are great!
Why are all the pyramids covered in dirt? Maybe cuz they’re all in layers or steps and maybe built in wet places - good for plants! Maybe building them means they have to be layered – you have to pull the stone along a path and it can’t be too steep! Ai yahhh…so tiring! They maybe could have smoothed them out after if they wanted to but then how can you climb to the top back then if you visited them…..isn’t that the whole point? Why build it if you cannot climb it? If I was the king I would sure be mad if I could not get to the top of my pyramid! I’m just guessing though, you guys are the experts!
Nice meeting you Smiley and thanks for all the cool information! I will be soooo busy reading it!
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"With respect to the Pyramids in Bosnia and Herr claiming they were 10 to 20 millenia ago seems unlikely."
I am not the one claiming.... that is Prof. Osmanagic.
Also, Riven, I don't see how you can say that ancient cultures were connected with their zodiacal signs when the Zodiac was a Greek invention, and of a very late time; the other zodiacs were quite different.
The Age of Leo, could have, for example, have been the Age of a Fish-God, or so on. The Zodiac as we know it was not that old.
Megalithian:
I'm trying to contact Prof. Osmanagic, and my friend in the University of Sarajevo, Professor Metka Kraiger-Hozo has said they will do the best they to try to contact him, but she warned that it might be as late as December before I actually meet the Professor.
Smiley:
I honestly don't know why pyramids are covered in soil.
Pyramids are the most basic building shape for gigantic constructions -much easier than a rectangular shape, for example. Therefore, its not hard to see why so many cultures have pyramids.
What stands out about the Bosnian ones is their size and antiquity! If they are really from c.8000 BCE, then they are suggestive of a highly civilized culture in Bosnia at that time, which, mind you, is not that far from Athens!
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The supposed pyramid of Bosnia only has about 100 meters of height, by 200 meters of supercicie in its base, by the longest part, according to affirms its own discoverer, professor Semir Osmanagic.
Those of Iberia, that already have been confirmed like pyramids by the archaeological findings like constructions, walls, and ceramics, also they have between 60 and 100 meters of altitude.
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Your measurements are screwy.
And let's keep in mind that if we google Iberian Pyramids, nothing is found apart from posts on AtlantisRising by Jose and Mr. Montexano's website. Doesn't seem like they have been "confirmed" but more like Jose is making them up.
Here's some more info for those who find the pyramid in Bosnia interesting.
quote: Near the city of Visoko, 30 km north of Sarajevo, there is a stone pyramid of monumental size, claims the Bosnian archeologist Semir Osmanagić, who lives and works in the USA.
After several months of geological and archeological research, Mr. Osmanagić concluded that under the present hill of Visočica hides a stairs-like pyramid, about 12,000 years old. Osmanagić, who intensively researched on pyramids in Americas, Asia and Africa for the last 15 years and wrote several books on the subject, says he's quite sure he found the first pyramid in Europe, which is quite similar to ones in the Southern America.
He believes that the project would completely change Bosnia's significance in the world of archeology.
On the top of "Bosnian pyramid of Sun" was a temple, built by pre-Illyrians, people who lived, according to Osmanagić, 27,000 years ago.
Mr. Osmanagić thinks he will solve the "Bosnian pyramid of Sun" in the next five years, but also prove the existence of "Bosnian pyramid of Moon", lying under the neighboring hill of Križž.
(Unjournaled Blog)
quote: "The pyramid is 100 metres high and there is evidence that it contains rooms and a monumental causeway ... The plateau is built of stone blocks, which indicates the presence at the time of a highly developed civilisation," the daily explains.
"Archaeological excavations near the surface have uncovered a part of a wall and fragments of steps," it reveals.
"Visocica hill could not have been shaped like this by nature," geologist Nada Nukic tells the daily. "This is already far too more than we have anticipated, but we expect a lot more from further analysis," she concludes.
(Dnevni Avaz, Bosnian Daily)
quote: Europe's first pyramid?
Bosnia's leading Muslim daily Dnevni Avaz writes excitedly about "a sensational discovery" of "the first European pyramid" in the central town of Visoko, just north of Sarajevo.
Excavations at a hill site above the town have been going on for several months and initial analyses "have confirmed the original claim that this is Europe's first pyramid and a monumental building, similar in dimensions to the Egyptian pyramids."
"The pyramid is 100 metres high and there is evidence that it contains rooms and a monumental causeway ... The plateau is built of stone blocks, which indicates the presence at the time of a highly developed civilisation," the daily explains.
"Archaeological excavations near the surface have uncovered a part of a wall and fragments of steps," it reveals.
"Visocica hill could not have been shaped like this by nature," geologist Nada Nukic tells the daily. "This is already far too more than we have anticipated, but we expect a lot more from further analysis," she concludes.
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To you seem impossible to him that living Diaz-Montexano and Maria Fdez-Valmayor (among other members of SAIS) in the same Madrid, them it has been impossible to confirm the existence of the pyramids that are in the same Madrid? How you can think something so absurd?
In addition, we have shown photos taken in the same place when the excavations were made. These photos are of the satellite of Google? Because you have that obsession to want to always discredit the findings and News of SAIS and Diaz-Montexano? The SAIS news, always go accompanied of clear and precise photos and all the data that allow to offer the laws of the National Direction of the Historical and Archaeological Patrimony of Spain.
And the satellite photos, the majority are not of Google, are of services that exist in Spain in the National Institute of Cartography and Geography, or perhaps you think you who the only photos of satellites which they exist in the world are those that offers Google?
In any case, the photos of satellites are like support, because they offer a vision area that allow to far better appreciate the circular structures that the photos obtained in the place at the level of the ground.
I do not understand because you always react of so negative way before the important discoveries that are made in Iberia?
PS. Still we are waiting for the hundreds or thousand of examples of cities or circular enclosures, the entire world and Mauretanea/Richat, with several circular pits to contain water, alternate with earth ring, plus a channel that unites the central island with the outside, and which they have an antiquity that goes back until the Copper Age.
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We are discussing a possible predeluge structure. Anything standing for 11,000 or 12,000 years is going to show heavy ageing. Some of these hills could very well be pyramids. An accumulation of 11,000 years, plus, of dirt and debrie would be considerable. Keep in mind that much more recent pyramids in the jungles of South America were well hidden under dirt and plant matter. The Bosnia find has got to be significant even if it doesn't turn out to be quite as old as thought. We very much want to be kept abreast of any discoveries concerning this pyramid.Some of the Chinese pyramids are also thought to predate those in Egypt but as yet definitive proof is lacking.I, personally, believe that the Earth had a civilization of some advancement prior to the devestating flood recounted in the bible as the Story of Noah and also recounted in various other cultures. The flood story is pretty much global.
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"To you seem impossible to him that living Diaz-Montexano and Maria Fdez-Valmayor (among other members of SAIS) in the same Madrid, them it has been impossible to confirm the existence of the pyramids that are in the same Madrid? How you can think something so absurd? "
JOSE: Anything that is confirmed only by an extremely biased society like SAIS, and that has no confirmation in other sources, even of the same mention, is not worthy of being called an archaelogical discovery. And why don't you show us these pyramids?
"Still we are waiting for the hundreds or thousand of examples of cities or circular enclosures, the entire world and Mauretanea/Richat, with several circular pits to contain water, alternate with earth ring, plus a channel that unites the central island with the outside, and which they have an antiquity that goes back until the Copper Age. "
Did I ever say that I would give this? Jose, I cannot excavate Richat within three days of deciding to do so.... excavations take time, as I'm sure Mr. Montexano knows, considering he's been planning the same excavation since the Copper Age.
We are not discussing Iberian pyramids, but a specific Bosnian one.
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I think the pyramids are a evolution like Peter had said. There are tiny ones in the Africa jungles, a small group of stones pile on each other in a shape of a pyramid. Wish I could find those pictures again. Posts: 11378 | From: toledo .ohio | Registered: Mar 2000
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Yes, I too believe that pyramids have evolved independently.
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We have to wait to see if the dateing is correct. Sometimes archaelogists jumb to conclusions. They can only date it on how it relates to another culture.
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The topic of pyramids does not belong under the Atlantis forum.
I am moving it to a more appropriate forum.
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"To you seem impossible to him that living Diaz-Montexano and Maria Fdez-Valmayor (among other members of SAIS) in the same Madrid, them it has been impossible to confirm the existence of the pyramids that are in the same Madrid? How you can think something so absurd?"
JOSE: Anything that is confirmed only by an extremely biased society like SAIS, and that has no confirmation in other sources, even of the same mention, is not worthy of being called an archaelogical discovery. And why don't you show us these pyramids?
In many articles and the News of Diaz-Montexano and SAIS (of the hundreds which he has published in all his race like investigator), always they appear data of others archaeologists or geologists that has confirmed some of the most important details. For example, in the case of concentric cities and concentric enclosures ceremonalies that we have published, have mentioned the three names of importants archaeologists Spanish college students, graduated, titleholders (not amateur like Hankock), serious, rigorous archaeologists, who never have dedicated themselves to the mysteries nor to the search of Atlantis, and that in addition are representing officials of the "Dirección General de Patrimonio Histórico-Artístico". How dare you then, to say that confirmation does not exist none outside Diaz-Montexano and SAIS?
In this sense, this news of SAIS, on concentric cities (like Atlantis) found in Iberia, better is sustained, and better confirmed, than most of the news, discoveries or theories of Hancock or the "archaeologist" of Bosnia, where it is only mentioned to only geologist. Also Diaz-Montexano has several geologists (titled, university) within the SAIS equipment). Or perhaps uste now is going to also say that the Spanish scientists (archaeologists, geologists) do not deserve no merit nor respect?; Perhaps you think that the Spaniards are all idiots and ignorantes without knowledge some?
You are offending of very serious way the Spanish scientists, in general, and if the Moderators continues being tolerant with you and they do not present a severe and energetic protest against its offensive attitude and of harassment, I believe that nobody will have or no doubt that you are a Moderator or one of the Owners of AR.
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Hi Everyone!
I am sooooo mad!
Graim Hancok's mesage bord they are trashing the Bosnian pirimids. But doper can say that Atlantis is in millins of year old Anartic ice and dna from alien planits!! All books he write are on drugs!
Soryy for not spel cheking my post butI am so mad first!
Graim Hancok's mesage bord they are trashing the Bosnian pirimids. But doper can say that Atlantis is in millins of year old Anartic ice and dna from alien planits!! All books he write are on drugs!
Soryy for not spel cheking my post butI am so mad first!
Ai yahhh
OK. Megalithian go to bed.
Let people discuss their topics. There is a section for humor and a general section for random comments.
Some people here have dedicated their lives to their chosen field of study. Respect that. Your comments were both insulting and degrading. You were being the latter.
As for your dislike of me posting you details, well, that is just public information and a little warning that a complaint can be made by anyone and that a number of routes exist to deal with such problems.
A little bit of respect for other users is not to much to ask.
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Megalithian:
I would ignore the people of GH. I am public enemy #1 on that board; in any case, their arguments are unconvincing.
Cunchillos:
"You are offending of very serious way the Spanish scientists, in general, and if the Moderators continues being tolerant with you and they do not present a severe and energetic protest against its offensive attitude and of harassment, I believe that nobody will have or no doubt that you are a Moderator or one of the Owners of AR. "
That's what Jose said, too.
Everyone:
Good News! and.... not so good news...
My contact in Bosnia has told me that he has met with Prof. Sem. Osmanagic, and that Prof. Osmanagic is going to Ljubjana in Slovenia for some days (I have no idea why -you'd think he'd be busy at his pyramids!), and that while he is in Ljubjana, I can meet with him, for some hours. He has a research file he would be more than willing to show me.
Here's the catch: Because it is a recent discovery, I am not allowed to share the information.... or use it for personal uses.
In any case, I can tell you if its rubbish or not. I'll be meeting him November 20th!
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Brig nailed it on the head...many pyramids - depending upon their actual construction - have deteriorated over time and don't look like what we think of as pyramids. They look like mounds of Earth at first glance.
I guess what I should have said is one of the reason we don't recognize pyramids is BECAUSE they are covered with dirt and/or sand, depending upon their locations.
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Dearest Professor Saltzman,
Thank you so nice for your answer.
OK, everybody here is so nice but not Mr. Mark.
I am recent from Korea and am trying English. Most post i spellcheck or I have my many good friends help me read and write.
Mr Mark, you make me feel bad for my English. You put my personal information for people to see. That is not nice and I am very offend.
And now you call me a XXXXXXXX. My friend says that this is very bad. Everyone here is so nice to me. I do not understand why you are not nice to me. I am very nice to everyone here.
I am trying to write this correct. No help from friends. I spellcheck it.
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Mark, please don't use xxxxxx, or anything else. Thank you. I have edited your message & deleted that portion of it.
Everyone MUST immediately return to the topic, or it will be closed.
Stick to the TOPIC.
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Not according to Peter V; who argued, previously that the pyramid shape is so natural that many cultures could have come up with it naturally. Not saying I agree.
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quote: Not according to Peter V; who argued, previously that the pyramid shape is so natural that many cultures could have come up with it naturally. Not saying I agree.
Peter V, does not know his maths like I do.
What's so natural about Euclidean geometry?
Its nothing like nature.
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