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What if? We cannot even agree on the location of Atlantis on earth; if we remove the origins of its people to another planet, we only increase the layers of difficulty surronding the search for and comprehension of Plato's story.
Do I, personally, believe the possibility? I explore the past through genealogy, myths and legends as well as through history and earth sciences.
What has been written and what has been passed down for generations describes a people who were "gods and not gods", so called because their understanding was far beyond most men of their time. It says of them that they were semi-transparent until they began to mingle with other people, that the land was too heavy to hold them and they dwelt in the air and the water at first. These are myths, evolved from the descriptions of primitive people trying to delimitate something beyond their common experience.
In other words, your guess is as good as mine.
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What do I think? Well, I believe that many of us are reincarnated Atlanteans. So how could we be from another planet? What planet? This just throws a wrench into everything. I cannot accept it. This does not compute!
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the atlanteans are the anunaki or something completely different
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Why? Are humans too stupid to create a civilization on their own. The simplist explaination is most often correct. Atlantis was built and ruled by humans....our ancestors actually. Sitchen be hanged.
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As stated earlier, 24% of Americans believe in Witches. We've had an earlier topic of "Magic In Atlantis"... Witches are human....
Brig, how about Atlantis as a colony of Magical People... like Witches and Warlocks?
Then again... like psychics who never seem to win the lottery... if you had a colony of Magic people... why couldn't they protect themselves from a flood?
Any thoughts? Anyone?
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I would say more like a colony of great scientists, from another planet.
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Hey, it makes sense - the Atlanteans were aliens who landed on Earth and created a bronze age society which was subsequently defeated by 2 cave men and a goat from Athens ....
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Rich there are those who claim to be witches......but I think they are one letter off of correct. Essan makes a good point, in spite of his humor. My apologies to girl doggies everywhere. Posts: 14491 | From: Old Washington, Ohio , USA | Registered: Apr 2002
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very funny AND HARDY HAR HAR and shiver me timbers,
A witch and a bitch always dress up for each other, because otherwise the witch would upstage the bitch, or the bitch would upstage the witch, and the result would be havoc. - Tennessee Williams
Every old woman with a wrinkled face, a furr’d brow, a hairy lip, a gobber tooth, a squint eye, a squeaking voice, or a scolding tongue ... a dog or cat by her side, is not only suspected but pronounced for a witch. - John Gaule
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Well, witches do exist and they are as normal and human as all of you. Most are really nice people too. Lead singer of Godsmack is a professed pagan witch. I'm a solitary practitioner of a Kemetic form of the wiccan arts. Wicca is the correct religious name for someone who practices witchcraft. There are varying degrees of sects, different types of paganism, and almost all use some type of magic to accomplish what they want in life. No we don't fly on brooms or eat little children for lunch. ha, ha. Wicca is merely using mind and ritual to bring about postive change in one's life.
Another thing- You'd have to be pretty gullible to believe that we are an anomoly in the vast reaches of space. There are countless numbers of life-sustaining planets in the universe and galaxy that we have yet to find. You can't honestly think we're on the only one with intelligent life. Granted the life on other planets may not be humanoid, but who's to say there aren't other anomolious animals that have evolved to high-intelligence. Humans are just another type of animal you know.
Now I'm not saying the Atlanteans couldn't have been et's, but I would tend to believe they were human and not alien. Maybe they were influenced by some visiting et's but as far as them being aliens.... nay. I think that some things (like flight, stoneworking, electricity, and mechanics) are things that we are finally 're-discovering' in this time. I firmly believe that flight and advanced warfare was possible thousands of years ago. The technology was lost to us and only rediscovered within the last few hundred years. We are still merely children when it comes to knowledge. If we learned to take care of our planet correctly we probably wouldn't have to worry about the next 'great flood' or our impending destruction at the hands of Mother Nature. I do believe in cycles and I do believe that ancient humans were more advanced than we give them credit for. It's sad, IMHO, that people think just because we have all this 'technology' that we are more advanced than our ancestors. I'm willing to bet they knew more about life, science, and the nature of God than those in our current experience of time. Humans are a destructive lot, most destructive creature on the planet. So as far as I see it, our current situation is very close to the situation Atlantis experienced only a few generations before their demise. Think about it.
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yes, witches exist,now whether they have any power, well that's another question.
some do, most don't
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Witch by the standard definition of the word probably do not exist. One who has sold their soul to Satan for certain magical powers. Those Wiccans who claim to be witches trace their craft clear back to the 1940s. As they do not believe in Satan they couldn't very well have made a pact with him. Wiccans are attempting to reinstate the old nature worship. But the wiccan witch is not the garden variety witch that we all know and despise. If they wish to be called witches, instead of herbalist or healer, that is their right. But they are not witches by the classical definition. They are recreating the definition of witch.
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Brig, I'd really love to know who told you that. Wiccans don't trace their craft to the 1940's (this Christian recreation of the definition) and they are 'by classical definition' still witches. Wicca: The polytheistic nature religion of modern witchcraft whose central deity is a mother goddess; claims origins in pre-Christian pagan religions of western Europe.
Nature worship was the first religion. Granted it says 'modern' but rituals and spells have been passed down for centuries from one witch to another.
Ishtar, Spells take time to come to fruition. It's never an immediate, instantaneous "poof" and you've just had the money you wanted dropped in your lap nor is it 'poof' and everything is fine. Number one rule of Wicca "Do what thou will. Harm none." "Anything you do comes back three time good or three times bad." Magic is simply a way of manipulating your Karma to bring about positive change.
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Gerald Gardner is generally credited with the modern revival of witchcraft which is called Wicca. His first book on the craft was published in 1949. Some neo-pagan groups claim their traditions go as far back as the 17th century and there are family traditions with claims of much earlier origins, but none of these are Wiccan.
The "Rede of the Wiccae" should be credited to Lady Gwen Thompson, founder of the NECTW (New England Covens of Traditionalist Witches), a group which has consulted with me on several myths central to their tradition. The Rede was originally published in the Green Egg in 1975. Lady Gwen attributed the Rede to Adriana Porter, her paternal grandmother, who died in 1946.
The first religion practiced by Cro-Magnon was a form of Shamanism. Its focus was primarily on insuring the success of the hunt.
Briwnys (AKA J T McAlister, formerly Editor-in-Chief of Echoed Voices)
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Right Cleasterwood. But that religion went the way of the Druids. Todays Wicca is a construct of one man who is the founder of the movement and was attempting to reserect nature worship based on the few oral traditions still in existance plus a very few written accounts of the "religion" mostly in roman writings and a few other obscure references. The romans were famous for slanting discriptions of foreign religions in a most unfavorable light. So Wicca is loosely based on the druids and other nature worship groups. A classic witch is a classic witch is a classic witch and any other discription of a witch is still the same. Just as other words have been changed to mean something else; the classic term does not change.
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Lead singer of Godsmack is a professed pagan witch. I'm a solitary practitioner of a Kemetic form of the wiccan arts. Wicca is the correct religious name for someone who practices witchcraft. There are varying degrees of sects, different types of paganism, and almost all use some type of magic to accomplish what they want in life. No we don't fly on brooms or eat little children for lunch. ha, ha. Wicca is merely using mind and ritual to bring about postive change in one's life.
