quote:Originally posted by Nicole Jimmelson: Don't take it personally. I actually do study witchcraft, Wicca and the like and always manage to run into a lot of religious zealots who think I'm going to hell for it.
Hell doesn't exist either, by the way, that is another Christian manifestation.
Miss Jimmerson, you are the perfect example of one who has been led astray by the lies of the devil. Hell DOES exist, as I'm sure you will find out if you don't mend your evil ways. YOU ARE A WITCH!
You are being led astray by blind faith.
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It's a shame that some people will never be happy until they make the whole world live by their religious beliefs.
It's also a shame that some people still think they can go on witch-hunts, which most people now think were a bad idea in the first place.
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The aim is not to judge others but let the Ancients of Days judge what is acceptable or not in the Kingdom of heaven.
The most acceptable thing is Love for one another and learning to understand each other. Through the witness of your own love for another then I feel you attract people to your inner thoughts and belief and they start emanate there own love for one another through your example. from within.
Anyway the new world will be based on this principle which encompasses truth , discovery, sharing knowledge not keeping it. Not judgeing and excluding. Transparent and open.
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I actually find this whole thread offensive (and Elmer's attitude, too). I'm a Wiccan, too,and I can't tell you how many people there are out there that try to run us down with all their misconceptions and their holier than thou attitude.
It's a big world, people are not all going to have the same beliefs. They should at least learn to have the class and the decency to accept people who's believe differently, without trying to change them.
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quote:Originally posted by Nicole Jimmelson: Don't take it personally. I actually do study witchcraft, Wicca and the like and always manage to run into a lot of religious zealots who think I'm going to hell for it.
Hell doesn't exist either, by the way, that is another Christian manifestation.
Miss Jimmerson, you are the perfect example of one who has been led astray by the lies of the devil. Hell DOES exist, as I'm sure you will find out if you don't mend your evil ways. YOU ARE A WITCH!
Hell doesn't exist (if it did, it would probably be what we are making of this earth), and you are completely brainwashed by your religion.
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quote:Originally posted by sevens: Pretty Harsh thing to say .
The aim is not to judge others but let the Ancients of Days judge what is acceptable or not in the Kingdom of heaven.
The most acceptable thing is Love for one another and learning to understand each other. Through the witness of your own love for another then I feel you attract people to your inner thoughts and belief and they start emanate there own love for one another through your example. from within.
Anyway the new world will be based on this principle which encompasses truth , discovery, sharing knowledge not keeping it. Not judgeing and excluding. Transparent and open.
regards sevens
Do you sense any love coming from Elmer's posts? Cause I don't. Not even "tough" love.
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quote:Originally posted by Nicole Jimmelson: Don't take it personally. I actually do study witchcraft, Wicca and the like and always manage to run into a lot of religious zealots who think I'm going to hell for it.
Hell doesn't exist either, by the way, that is another Christian manifestation.
Miss Jimmerson, you are the perfect example of one who has been led astray by the lies of the devil. Hell DOES exist, as I'm sure you will find out if you don't mend your evil ways. YOU ARE A WITCH!
You are being led astray by blind faith.
I'll say, why are some religious people so narrow-minded?
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quote:Originally posted by Desiree: It's a shame that some people will never be happy until they make the whole world live by their religious beliefs.
It's also a shame that some people still think they can go on witch-hunts, which most people now think were a bad idea in the first place.
And you know what? They never learn either, they have been doing the same thing, or whatever they can get away with for two thousand years now.
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quote:Originally posted by Heather Delaria: I actually find this whole thread offensive (and Elmer's attitude, too). I'm a Wiccan, too,and I can't tell you how many people there are out there that try to run us down with all their misconceptions and their holier than thou attitude.
It's a big world, people are not all going to have the same beliefs. They should at least learn to have the class and the decency to accept people who's believe differently, without trying to change them.
I run into the same kind of people, and it is really irritating. The world needs to make way for different beliefs. We have too many of the same type of religion around and some people who are very intolerant.
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Personally, I think it's a bit crazy even to be joking about a thing like this (if he is joking).
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quote:Originally posted by sevens: Pretty Harsh thing to say .
The aim is not to judge others but let the Ancients of Days judge what is acceptable or not in the Kingdom of heaven.
The most acceptable thing is Love for one another and learning to understand each other. Through the witness of your own love for another then I feel you attract people to your inner thoughts and belief and they start emanate there own love for one another through your example. from within.
Anyway the new world will be based on this principle which encompasses truth , discovery, sharing knowledge not keeping it. Not judgeing and excluding. Transparent and open.
regards sevens
I don't think what I said is harsh at all. It is, if anything, pretty tame compared to someone calling other people witches and suggesting that they will go to hell if they don't share his beliefs.
How do we know what the kingdom of heaven wants? How do we know we even have any clue about it at all?
As for "not judging and excluding," it occurs to me that both fundamentalists of every stripe: Christian, Jewish and Muslim (among others) do that each time they suggest that theirs is the only way. It isn't. And any objective person would be able to see that.
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Some would do it to make christians look bad.
IMHO
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As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come (Matthew 24:37-42).
Seven at this point it is pretty much pointless,
What was it like in the days of Noah?, people scorned and laughed.
Noah desired the people to leave their sin, and how he had spoken with God, and that he was commanded to make the ship, for God should destroy them for their sin, but if they left it.
And they mocked him and said that he raved and was a fool, and gave no faith to his saying and continued in their sin and wickedness.
Isaiah 26:20-27:3
Gen. 6:11-12 “The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Not unlike today.
How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
the sin of pride
Violence, anger , hatred, is the physical exhibition of pride. Ps 73:6 Therefore pride serves as their necklace; violence covers them like a garment.
Prov 21:7
Prov. 26:12 “Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? There is more hope of a fool than of him.”
Jer. 18:12 “And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.”
bullheaded, stubborn, pride
It is almost impossible to reason with one another
"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come," Matthew 24:14.
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The Day of Trumpets Rosh Hashana, "Head of the Year," Birthday of the World, First of Civil Year, A New Beginning, Tithing New Year for Livestock and Vegetables, The Day of Remembrance, Start of Ten Days of Repentance, Year of Release and Jubile, Time of Paying Tithes, Days of Awe, Days of Return, Reading and Expounding Book of the Law, Time to Bend the Knee, Time for Fasting and Repentance, Day of YHVH, Judgment Day, Resurrection Day, Regathering of Israel, Assembling Israel for Meeting, For War, Crowning of the King of Kings, Return of Messiah to Rule World
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Messiah will rise first" (1Thessalonians 4:16).
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1 Cor 15:51,52-WE SHALL NOT ALL SLEEP, BUT WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED, IN A MOMENT IN THE TWINKLING OF AN EYE, AT THE LAST TRUMP: FOR THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND;
think music and the vibrations and tones.
Ascension, transmutation, lifted to a higher vibration and spiritual level or realm,like an electric current,like the ark/Arc,transfigured.
was there music from which all things were formed?
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This will sound the loudest through heaven– "Worthy is the Lamb who was slain."
You are worthy to take the scroll and break its seals and open it. For you were killed, and your blood has ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation. And you have caused them to become God's kingdom and his priests. And they will reign on the earth."
11 I saw, and I heard something like a voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousands of ten thousands, and thousands of thousands;
12 saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb who has been killed to receive the power, wealth, wisdom, strength, honor, glory, and blessing!"
They "held harps given them by God and sang the song of Moses the servant of God." (Revelation 15:2,3)
John,"heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne (of God) and ... sang" His praises. (Revelation 5:11)
The song of Moses,
`I will sing to the Lord, for He is highly exalted. The horse and its rider He has hurled into the sea. The Lord is my strength and my song; He has become my salvation." (Exodus 15:1,2,20)
"All the Levites who were musicians - Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun and their sons and relatives - stood on the east side of the altar, dressed in fine linen and playing cymbals, harps and lyres. They were accompanied by 120 priests sounding trumpets. The trumpeters and singers joined in unison as with one voice, to give praise and thanks to the Lord. Accompanied by trumpets, cymbals and other instruments, they raised their voices in praise to the Lord and sang: `He is good; His love endures forever.' Then the temple of the Lord was filled with a cloud ... for the glory of the Lord filled the temple of God."
"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." (John 16:33)
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Revelations 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
Joel 2:1 Blow a trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm on My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble, For the Day of the Lord is coming; Surely it is near.
Hebrews tells us that the heavens (which are the work of His hands) "shall perish . . . and they shall wax old as does a garment; and as a vesture shall [God] fold them up, and they shall be changed" (Hebrews 1:10-12).
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2 Pe 3:13-NEVERTHELESS WE, ACCORDING TO HIS PROMISE, LOOK FOR NEW HEAVENS AND A NEW EARTH, WHEREIN DWELLETH RIGHTEOUSNESS. Isa 65:17-FOR, BEHOLD, I CREATE NEW HEAVENS AND A NEW EARTH: AND THE FORMER SHALL NOT BE REMEMBERED, NOR COME INTO MIND. Isa 66:22-FOR AS THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH, WHICH I WILL MAKE, SHALL REMAIN BEFORE ME, SAITH THE LORD, SO SHALL YOUR SEED AND YOUR NAME REMAIN. Rev 21:1-AND I SAW A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH: FOR THE FIRST (or old) HEAVEN AND THE FIRST (or old) EARTH WERE PASSED AWAY; AND THERE WAS NO (longer any) MORE SEA. Rev 21:5-AND HE THAT SAT UPON THE THRONE SAID, BEHOLD, I MAKE ALL THINGS (or everything) NEW. AND HE SAID UNTO ME, WRITE (this down): FOR THESE WORDS ARE TRUE AND FAITHFUL (or trustworthy). Lk 18:30-THE WORLD TO COME LIFE EVERLASTING.
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How are you? well I hope. I enjoyed your posts and the various bible references. There all good and certainly matches what I finding.
The past couple of days Ive been going through the Isaiah papers. Its been a great experience. Ive been reading them from the prospective of the Eden, the location and the last days, uncovering much. Even though scholars think Isaiah is forecasting Jesus, which he does. I feel there is a duality that also points to this current timeline and confirmed many things that I have expressed without knowing this.
Bizarre as it seems, I recognise many things that are personal that I have witnessed in my own timeline and discovering the post about the scribe and two towers in addition the Towers mentioned in the same paper with the sevenfold prophecy and association with the breach proceeding, it seems more than a coincidence. Strange!
I also noticed many references of proclamation of beforehand of the event, of a message that burns hearts which I believe is the test of the soul, before the event but then I noticed that no hears nor believes at all, there a few in the Isle (America) that do respond with good tidings towards one another in light of this message but the rest...nothing at all! I cant believe it.
II'd say that would be right, however what people say and think can be 2 different things. May be deep in there soul, people are considering these things but I hope they emit the right decision.
I also found a verse that gives you an estimation of how many people will survive which is 10%. Can you believe it 10 percent!!! What a disaster for non belief and rejection of the Father and his simple message. Something so simple, the easiest thing to do with a kind offer that takes no soveriegnty away. Yet in spite of this man flat out rejects.
If this forecast is correct man is in for a disaster. What a routing that is for this planet.
10% I cant believe it.
Come on mankind, just a litte prayer, even halfhearted. Thats all it takes if this information correct and on target. Even if Im wrong its still a good test of the soul to get his act together.
Anyway, I think Isaiah speaks nearly all about the last times with key markers of the timeline that we can identify today.
Some people come down on me a bit. Thats OK I understand because what I say is brutal, its not a nice message. But thats what Im reading from ancient documents, that has been preserved for thousands of years in our past. There may be inconsistancy here and there but essentially it should be respected and at least investigated for whatever reasons becuase in many ways it could be dead on. Literaly.
At those kinds of Odds of 10% maybe one has to be brutal in what one says. Instead IId rather show my research, so people can view it themselves and make up there own mind up.
Personaly, I wouldnt under estimate this information. What was just an adventure in the scripts with desire is turning out to be something else of a saga, a desperate saga for mankind. Like condition red for his soul.
Here is the piece out of Isaiah
Isaiah6:6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
The understanding of this given by God.
7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
Self improvement from the information.
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
For sure we will all go and proclaim, why not! Its a journey and a half.
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
They dont underdstand the message and regard this like all other information. People will not hear nor understand this.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
An example of the blindness before the event and for people not caring. However for those hearts who do acknowledge the turth within themselves will be ok.
11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,
Sounds like serious earth changes after the event of judgement.
12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.
The Lord comes and deals with those who reject.
13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak,whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.
It looks like 10 percent survive and return after earth chnages and the tree of life is betowed to the selected and immortality is achieved where they have large families.
I feel that the land mass is going to be raised and the temple of God as seen by Ezekiel will descend on the location. I also feel this place is Zion and that's where the temple will be.
I'm not sure weather this happens before judgement as a demonstration of the Father so every eyes will witness. First confoundment and then the great conviction is felt within the hearts of man.
Here is a piece I found
Isaiah 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
That is exactly what we are doing. I also think this is related to the Test scenario and is encouraged by the Kingdom of Heaven to publish.
http://sevenfoldbooks.com/eden/isaiah_52.htm still more to do on this link. Seeing it from the location point of view is compelling. Its a real mystery and finding the markers that we see today is just brilliant. Like God encouraging the building of Dolmens, all type of these markers that lead to the Great Mystery of the Sevens Stars, the Mystery of Mysteries.
One thing for sure, I will know if its when there are on the Acropolis Hill.
I just noticed the post was wiccan. Personaly, I feel the mystery unlocked is on another level that involves the universal brotherhood. Im not here to be judgmental on anyone in this post.
All I know is what I see in the future through the scripts and the various signs/clues.
quote:Originally posted by Elmer Jessup: Exodus 22:18, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live". Leviticus 20:27: "A man or woman in whom there is a pythonical or divining spirit, dying let them die: they shall stone them: Their blood be upon them."
Witchcraft is a rising threat in our culture in these troubled times. Be aware that there might be a witch (and hence, servant of the devil) in your family.
Boy is that some nutty stuff, and it managed to get a lot of people killed for the last two thousand years. It's a shame that some people still want to keep picking on people they think are witches.
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quote:Originally posted by Elmer Jessup: Exodus 22:18, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live". Leviticus 20:27: "A man or woman in whom there is a pythonical or divining spirit, dying let them die: they shall stone them: Their blood be upon them."
Witchcraft is a rising threat in our culture in these troubled times. Be aware that there might be a witch (and hence, servant of the devil) in your family.
Shut de **** up, mon. Your ignorance astounds me. Until you can tell what you have learned about Witchcraft from UNBIASED study of the religion, you have no place talking about it. Isn't there some bible quote about religious tolerance or something. Go find it and READ it. It's "judge not, or you shall be judged" - or something like that. Go read it and COMPLY with it. AlsoI have a serious question to ask your opinion on - do you think it is possible for someone to worship something that they do not believe in the existence of?
quote:Originally posted by Nicole Jimmelson: Do you sense any love coming from Elmer's posts? Cause I don't. Not even "tough" love. [/QB]
Hypocrites do not know love for other people, Nicole. This vile impotent man is deliberately trying to offend us but I have been on this path for 34 years and have seen many of his sort and they don't offend me anymore, but their hypocisy to their own religion offends me greatly.
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ELMER, you didn't happen to catch the Gospel of Judas, did you? YOU need to quit reading the fully edited and censored Nicean version of events and start reading the Gnostic Gospels if you want the REAL truth about what Jesus was trying to teach. And you know, if you knew ANYTHING about the subject matter you presume to speak about, you would know that Jesus was born into a HEATHEN world and what he was teaching were actually HEATHEN virtues LONG BEFORE they were adopted FROM the Heathens BY the Christians. Newsflash for you, Buckwheat - Witches have no problem with Jesus because he was ONE of us.
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quote:Originally posted by Elmer Jessup: Exodus 22:18, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live". Leviticus 20:27: "A man or woman in whom there is a pythonical or divining spirit, dying let them die: they shall stone them: Their blood be upon them."
Witchcraft is a rising threat in our culture in these troubled times. Be aware that there might be a witch (and hence, servant of the devil) in your family.
this coming from a person who's religion elected a former nazi to pope..lmao. any religion that takes MONEY away from the cathlic church is deemed "evil" or "wrong". There is a lot of mystery surronding the vaticans practices since its inception. why is only the pope allowed to view the financial records? what do they have to hide that only 1 man is able to view this. why are the records in the vatican library kept under such strict guard and many of the records not able to be viewed? what are they hiding? you would think that the "true religion of god", so they claim, would be open to all of mankind but this is not the case. I believe all religions that teach peace, love, compassion, and understanding are correct translations of the word of GOD and there for there is no 1 TRUE religion but many. ill put it like this. do we all come from the same place? do we all look the same? are all our traditions the same? then why would we all view god in the same image? too many ppl get hung up on what god or the "true prophet" looks like that they forget the message is what counts. i also believe that many prophets have been sent to earth to speak to the many tribes of the earth. its pretty easy to realize that man is stubborn and most likely wont listen to a prophet that does not resemble himself. GOD new this which is why we have so many different prophets. its why christians paint portraits of a white blue eyed jesus, why africans claim he was black, when in all actuality he probably looked a heck of a lot like bin laden. hate to use him as a reference but its true if you look at the shroud of turin. jesus was a jew...its documented yet ppl still try to put him in their own image. i hate organized religion. its done no real good on this earth since its inception and i hope one day it gets it right.
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Allison, the Gnostic Gospels are lies created by the pagans to confuse people. They're the work of the devil! Allison, by not being good Christians, you actually do worship the devil, even though you do not acknowledge him, for the only pathway to salvation is through the lord!
The rapture is coming, I can feel it in the air. We are in the beginning of the end times. All good Christians will be whisked up into heaven and sparred the devil's wrath while those who doubt Christ like yourself and others who do not believe in Him, will remain behind to suffer the horrors of the tribultation!
This is my message to all of you: Allison, Nicole, Heather & Desiree, repent! You are all going to HELL if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your own personal savior and come back to the Church. The only other person here who knows what is ahead is sevens. All others who pretend to know the way are, themselves, secretly filled with a lack of faith and also are doing the devil's work! Allison and the rest of you, please read the Book of Revelations and then tell me what you believe. Wicca and Paganism are the devil's work!!
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"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)
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quote:Originally posted by Elmer Jessup: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)
more misrepresentation of god to steer the masses, and their money, into the cathlic churches. GOD is not venegful nor is he spiteful. If so ill have to talk to him about anger management.
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You really are missing a few screws, Elmer, if you actually believe that. In the first place, there is no rapture. It's a fantasy concocted by an eighteenth century evangelist from a few vague Bible verses. In the second place, "by not being good Christians, you actually do worship the devil." Ridiculous. There is no devil! And the Christian church barely comprehends what God is.
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quote:Originally posted by Nicole Jimmelson: Do you sense any love coming from Elmer's posts? Cause I don't. Not even "tough" love.
Hypocrites do not know love for other people, Nicole. This vile impotent man is deliberately trying to offend us but I have been on this path for 34 years and have seen many of his sort and they don't offend me anymore, but their hypocisy to their own religion offends me greatly. [/QB]
Hi, Allison, and welcome to the discussion! Well, I'd be lying if I said he didn't offend me. I try and go out of my way to respect the religions of others to the point of trying to learn the beliefs and histories of each one, and then, I always run into someone like this who never happens to respect my choices. I don't know what you do with people like this other than to do your best to stay tolerant.
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I'm finding allot of connections that have consistency in the general message and the events that are foretold. I'm finding messages from across the other side of the world that lead back to the location, in discovery and interpretations of the message attached to artifacts. Nothing against anyone in belief put I truly feel there is a standard required to what is to come and is consistent with the information that I'm finding.
Just don't disregard the essence of the message. That's all, its a personal choice thing. Dont blow it away completely in reaction. That's all I'm saying, it could be mistake.
I know Elmer might be a bit punchy and I know my message is not a nice one for many. But I do find consistency in the message in all the scripts and additional information and links that I've left everywhere which does verify a strong unity in what is to come and it does have consequences. The worst thing to do is disbelief and no faith and rejection.
Personally, about witches and all that, I wont get into that, just connect with God in your own way, research the research, the message, have faith, see God as a friend from within you not as something out there, I'm sure he has been leading without you knowing. Cleanse yourself with a sincere prayer of any wrong doing towards others. You know those things. If you feel compelled to go to a church. do so.
There is a good message for ones with faith, and to be connected with the message is not hard, there is no obstacles, just reflection and sincere personal action in the way of response.
You know some 2 weeks ago, I think, I proclaimed a forty day test and then it will happen, well I could be jumping the gun on that one. But you know, if the conditions are right and the right connections are being made through the cracking of the mysteries through the right path. It could happen, just like that. A person could just have the right keys in knowledge and faith that could unlock the door, unlock the mystery. Like in the movies, a mystery movie. But it could happen in real life.
Like Jesus went through a 40 day test in the Wilderness and the Israelites through the 40 day test before they entered the promised land. So with mankind, perhaps a 40 day test. Anyway I thought it had consistency and I had a strong feeling about it.
Note the time markers as expressed in the bible. Like the 2 tower time markers found in 2 sections Isaiah that combined, all point to the man of terror in Afghanistan. Then the sevenfold reflection straight after associated with the breach. The discovery of Cyprus and then all the discovery in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Ezra about the test, 40 day period where a Testamony will be written and a test associated and a coming. Its everywhere.
What about Cyprus and all the evidence in script that points to it, I find it overwhelming and harmonised. Being a witness is a real testimony in itself all beforehand realizing after the action written in scripture. That's my Testamony.
I'm so happy that I found the UB and how it complimented my research in all the scripts and made me really love the old testament and all the mysteries in it and the new testament. For me, today. I cant wait to research the books. That's how compelling it is. Not to mention all the other discoveries.
The best thing, what I say will be tested. If nothing happens at all, I was wrong and no doubt cop criticism, natural for man. If I'm right well then, I'm right and before we realize that we will be in a different reality, no time to say good bye.
It will be something like that. When that happens there will be a great realisation, then the disappointment that will burn in there souls and that will be like a hell in itself in amidst earth changes.
I believe that is the case. I gave a time limit in accordance to the scriptures and or a discovery on the hill. That is the test for me and what I say.
see what happens. Just don't throw it away completely.
With Elmer you have to understand his background and the his teachings in his environment, history and variant of the body of Christ. I think he may be Mormon, I'm not sure. Where as myself I have had experience of most Christian churches and a couple of Bible colleges but i work alone and not influenced by anything except what I read and know.
But note even though we may be different and perhaps opposite ends of the body perhaps. We still harmonized on the general end time message. I find that interesting.
However if there is anything I uncover that is for the benefit of the greater body. No worries go for it!! take it, eat it, use it. If there is truth in it.
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Also I believe there is a space connection unity going on here. As a witness in this journey of discovery. There is much unity going on and I believe its from the Trinity of Paradise. I know that sounds a little weird. But there is space time phenomena involved in all these discoveries. I believe of a high level and is connected with lets say the Kingdom of Heaven.
Its a pretty serious thing gong on here. I'm so sure of it. There is witness to it. Elmer says he feels something in the air. What is that he is feeling?
What is that feeling the effect of? A mutual witness in the scriptures and in discovery? There own investigations? You know if a major body sees this and is sincere, that's all its takes for the message to grow like soothing rain on a hot day.
If the evidence is coming up well and it seems to be following a path of truth and if it has a witness or more than two, then there will be others. Whats the message . Glad tidings towards others, the Jesus message.
I know there will others that will not like what is said. All I say is just consider half-heartedness belief, that's ok.
Just a little openness, even research all the matter about it.
It could be a life boat, really could be at this time, in this timeline.
I don't know if God is going to do a major campaign on this as he already knows the outcome, How little, how big, when, how much time makes no difference.
Unfortunately, as prophesied there will be few, if at all that will proclaim this and in only the USA it happens. A self defeating prophecy in Ezra and Dead Seas scrolls about this test. That's the great disappointment, either way there will be no good result for the majority.
Either in scorn from the majority if nothing happens with disappointment or the majority in disappointment because they never listened and there is no turning back.
Even with Eden on all papers and TV even in a documentary and the pathways left behind in the research. The response is miserable from a sevenfold view. Nothing going on. You might as well pack up the saddle bags and go home!
People still do nothing about it. What's the point you might as well get it over and done with and move on to the new world. This one seems lost.
No point waiting around, for what? man wont do nothing about this in proclamation or doing something about it, Oh unless there's bucks in it.
I somehow feel we are in probation time and when its done, its done and then III personaly present my report on CD to Heaven. Bloody miserable, man failed to click on. When he did, he did nothing. stalled in general. Its about a 10% percenter in response. III continue to say in the report. Whilst discovering this mystery and trying to to present it to mankind on the run. I just about pulled apart the whole Christian faith and reconnected it back in a sequence that left a trail of ruffled feathers from all persuations. I think! Throwing out the best pearls or talents out there in the field, meant nothing and did nothing really. Its just like in the Jesus parables throwing out seeds and few reaped. Oh well! What can one do! only his best.
Understand there is no stronger sign than in Eden and it is the sign of Jonah, the seal of Mari, the seal of Pokotai, The Seventh Seal, the seal of the Seven Gods seal of Job, seal of Jubilees and the seal of Eden. Stones and books and personaly I dont think there will be a stronger message that has been written about it. I dont think there will be any other sign apart from this one. Even in the offer that is made with Eden, man doesnt respond... stupid man! My message for him is
I have to say that studying witchcraft and other satanic and occult subjects is inappropriate. These cults have been developed to attract young women who have a spiritual character but who have not achieved spiritual maturity owing to their parents having rejected Christianity in the upbringing of their children.
Knowing this, these cult leaders have developed philosophies that are attractive to young women but are also very harmful for young women. These typically involve rites and rituals that promote nudity, carnal relations and drugs.
May I respectfully suggest that you at least give equal time to your priest or rabbi as part of your quest for God.
I too have my quarrels with religion from time to time but that does not mean I need to bring Satan into my life.
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Hi sevens , I am sorry I am behind in reading the post, I will try and get back to your later, I have some thoughts.
blessings
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In its original Hebrew text the verse reads: M'khashephah lo tichayyah. Literally this means: "May a m'khashephah not live" or "You will not keep a m'khashephah in life." M'khashephah is the feminine form (although it also has a collective meaning) of a term which can also be used in the masculine m'khasheph). It means someone who practices k'shaphim, a magic characterized by spell-working that aggressively makes changes in the environment.
K'shaphim appears to be derived from a Semitic root K-Sh-P meaning "to cut off" (it may or may not be related to the Akkadian kashshapu and its feminine kashshaptu, terms used in Babylonian culture to denote certain magic-users). Its most important trait is the application of psychic power through directed use of specific words and sounds (i.e. spell-casting), but in a completely private manner, hidden from the rest of the community.
Although it could, in theory, be applied to beneficial as well as harmful ends, the practice of k'shaphim was usually thought of in terms of its destructive possibilities (i.e., the power to cut off life and prosperity), since this was what inspired the most anxiety in society at large: a m' khasheph or m'khashephah could cause illness or barrenness, or even kill, without leaving any traces that would connect them to these actions. The only way to guard against their power was to discover them and neutralize them(which, more often than not, meant killing them).
Paranoia about spell-casters was not confined to ancient Israel, but has been a common trait of rural societies around the globe, including cultures untouched by Biblical monotheism. There is a large body of anthropological literature describing the fear that African and Asian peasants have of secret practitioners of baneful magic, and the often very cruel means that are used to hunt them down. The attitude of the ancient Israelites towards the m'khashephah is, in this regard, completely unremarkable. http://paganwiccan.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=paganwiccan&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.draknet.com%2Fproteus%2FSuffer.htm
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King Nebuchadnezzar had asked his astrologers and other wizards to tell him his dream and interpret its meaning. How did they respond? Daniel 2:10 NIV, informs us, "The astrologers answered the king, 'There is not a man on earth who can do what the king asks! No king, however great and mighty, has ever asked such a thing of any magician or enchanter or astrologer.' "
I believe Daniel was a shaman , magician,astrologer,
13 And the decree went forth that the wise men should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his fellows to be slain.
14 Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to Arioch the captain of the king’s guard, which was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:
15 He answered and said to Arioch the king’s captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known to Daniel.
16 Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would shew the king the interpretation.
17 Then Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions:
18 That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.
19 Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.
8 But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name was Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, saying,
9 O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.
Notice Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, is Daniel and is head magician
17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers,
watchers is important,
23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven,
Anyway Daniel was made head watcher, over all the other seers and he saved their lives,because the king wanted them killed,
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