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Topic: Giza Pyramid Is A Complex Power plant or machine
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DR. LEE Member Posts: 886 From: unknown Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 05-26-2004 16:20
Dr. lee - "why can't I find things like this?" why would you want to?To find a legitimate out of place artifacts like this is just one more nail in the orthodox coffin. I just posted the link. I never said what it was... you assume much... I have not examine the stone... interesting reading...
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DR. LEE Member Posts: 886 From: unknown Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 05-26-2004 21:39
via mars 2 wrote: you throw the topic out there without reading beforehand? hmmmm ... smiley? what is your assessment?Uh, no! I posted the link for others to see and read. Draw your own conclusions. I have my own opinion, but no one ask me, and I never express any thing more than the fact that if this is a legitimate find. That its just more evidence to altsci over orthodox. I have read many papers and books. I believe that the possibility that the GP is unique and different than all the previous pyramids. I have said it over and over again that the lay out of the complex resembles a schematic. And the work of many alt-scientist and pusdo scientist bring much to light about the orthodox fallacy of the GP and all the ceremonial BS that has been printed. My assessment of the stone is at this time I don’t know what it is. What’s interesting to me is the statement that across the pins there is continuity and some resistance, and the fact that the x-rays don’t show any connection to possible other embedded components or any internal printed circuits or patterns. Its like the whole stone is showing readings like a solid-state resistor… but this post hypothesis. I would insist on submerging the stone in epoxy stripping fluid to rule out the possibility of gluing… http://www.tsc-global.com/petradox2.htm [This message has been edited by DR. LEE (edited 05-26-2004).]
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Onlyone New Member Posts: 5 From: Nevada Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 06-08-2004 12:50
The Great Pyramid itself, was both a power generator, and a center for final stage spiritual initiation. The power generating plant was very harmonious with nature, the generators were simple pyramids, that harmlessly collected the energy present in the Earth's aura (a frequency of the electromagnetic field - the field that makes a compass point to North).The power generator pyramids used only crystal and copper capstones, combined with a large peak release collector (capacitor) inside the pyramid. This allowed "wireless" transmission of the power to any building, or vehicle, including the airborne terrestrial ship that was used to build the pyramid. Crystals are amazing energy transmutators - they can take electricity and change it to physical vibration. They can also do the opposite - take vibration, and change it to electricity. The crystals transform the vibrations of electricity into waves, those waves travel through the air to wherever we are, and then crystals change them back to electrity. The vast amounts of power that exists in the Earth's bio-field, is plenty for all our needs. You have probably heard many things about the bible's legendary 'Ark of the Covenant'. If you know about electronic components, and you read even the worldly bible's descrpition of the Ark, you will realize that this was a giant electric capacitor. A capacitor is a device, usually found in an electronic circuit, that stores up electricity to a certain level, then releases it in a burst. This is why the Ark had the reputation that if you touched it or got too close to it you would get zapped by a lightning bolt from God. It was once the power storage device inside the Great Pyramid. The Pyramid had a layered capstone of copper and custom created quartz crystal. The Pyramid would collect energy from the Earth's bio-field, and focus it in the Ark. The Ark would release regular bursts of a specific frequency of electrical energy that would be transmuted and transmitted from the crystal capstone. All the buildings and vehicles had receiver crystals tuned to the Pyramid, and would pick up and change the energy back into usable power. Thoth built the Great Pyramid, using forces he controlled with the help of the advanced technology aboard his terrestrial airship (a common mode of transportation in the days of Atlantis). These vibratory forces could change molecular density, so that the great stones could be made to float in air, just as wood floats in water. Thoth's ship remains, hidden under the Sphinx. This may yet be found and used by initiates, when it is time and the need arises. So you see their technology was way far more advanced then ours. ------------------ ALL is Vibration
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JohnE Member Posts: 622 From: Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 06-09-2004 04:02
Good first post Onlyone, tell us more, where do these ideas originate. Were all the pyramids power generators? You do realise that Moses was not around until at least a thousand years after the pyramids were built, are you suggesting that the bible's legendary 'Ark of the Covenant' was an component of the great pyramid, if so how did he get it. According to the attested scripture the box was manufactured from an abundance of gold borrowed by Israelite slaves, but the contents were given to Moses by his god at Mount Horeb (Cherub Mountain) supposed to be in the Sinai Midian. What would the power generated have be used for and why is there not one scrap of evidence for this advanced technology anywhere on earth. All is vibration, perhaps. Would you happen to know the specific frequency of the great pyramid, I have heard that the inner chambers resonate to the key of 'F' flat.
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 06-09-2004 04:15
JohnEPardon me, but there is a whole lot more evidence for a technologically advanced and/or cultural exchange occurring between ancient man and ancient astronauts than academia is bringing to light. Personal research has reviled Quantum Physics encoded into a multitude of ancient artifacts. TSM Reverse Engineering Specialist Gravitics Among The Ancients http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com
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bluducky Member Posts: 1498 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-09-2004 06:21
a quick answer:John, firstly, Moses wouldn't have to take the Ark, as the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber has exactly the same cubic capacity. (think about it) Secondly, the biblical ark was made of wood, layered in gold... (What interests me more about it, is WHO made it, not what it's made of. this guy made all of the mysterious/holy objects. Was HE Thoth?) But, going along that line, one must ignore the various claims of 'having' the ark in their posession. (knights templar etc) Gotta go...
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JohnE Member Posts: 622 From: Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 06-09-2004 08:01
TSM You could be right but there is not much evidence.I do have a Turkey-carpet hanging that some times kaleidoscopes and I had the idea that it was a blue print for a plasma vortex engine more than twenty years ago and I know nothing about physics. So all the best with your device, I did want to ask. Do it make a noise does it light up, will it give an electric shock if touched. If it saves on fuel on the ground how much more fuel will it save aircraft? Does it work better at higher speeds. As for saving fuel I did read on another forum quote: Ironically, Rudolph Diesel (the inventor of the engine that bears his name) actually DESIGNED the diesel engine to run off vegetable oils. But, he died mysteriously (got ON a ferry after revealing his engine at a world exposition, but never got OFF at the other end....) after which the patents were bought from his widow by the automotive industry, & the engine modified to instead use a grade of petroleum distillate soon to be termed "diesel".... (an irony that no doubt had Rudy spinning in his presumably watery grave.)
can you confirm this it the first I've heard of it.I suggest the application be applied to space travel that’s where the money is being spent on new technology. For fifty million quid our scientists could not land a package on mars, were they embarrassed by this, not at all they just demanded more money next time.LOL
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JohnE Member Posts: 622 From: Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 06-09-2004 08:03
Bluducky if Sir Lawrence is right then the ark is inter-dimensional. Could it be that it is still to be understood and has probably not yet been manufactured. It may yet be made some time in our future and returned to the Old Kingdom to help them out restoring Ma'at. (think blue telephone box)
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 06-09-2004 10:10
JohnEOn the contrary, there is plenty of evidence, all you have to do is know what you are looking for, although you might need some understanding along the lines of Vortex Physics, Cavity-QED, ZPE, Aero/Fluid-dynamics, Turbo Charging Technology, Antenna Technology, Electronics and of course some comprehension of Nikola Tesla's transmission of energy without wires, specifically the Tesla air-coil and/or Tank Circuit Technology, as this is the type of information that was encoded into the ancient artifacts. The reality of this world is its more like StarGate and I'm more like Doctor Denial Jackson than you could ever imagine. The Quantum Electro-Gravitic circuit that I decoded from the ancient Dogu statue of Japan does hum similar to a standard transformer, and yes it will shock you if you touch any of the live components, or when your body completes the circuit to ground i.e. the least path to resistance. Everything currently known concerning modern physics is correct its just being incorrectly applied past a certain point, i.e. to say modern physics is applied 180-degrees out of phase with the environment, thereby resulting in parasitic drag, the overheating of our circuits, pollution and the reason why our free energy technologies are not producing the enormous amounts of energy that have been predicted. On the other hand the Ram Implosion Wing is a motor comprising no moving parts, that is other than the movement of the environment through cyclonic or vortex action. The wing is capable of saving 3-times or more then the normal amount of fuel consumed per-flight. What I did was recognize its multiple applications, e.g. mounted it to my van where I obtained 3-times my normal mileage... TSM Reverse Engineering Specialist Gravitics Among The Ancients http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 06-09-2004 12:52
No, the wing is not foiling any thing, it is actually creating a set of 3-vortex suction-heads that pull forward on the wing/vehicle vs. antagonistic drag which is generated by usual wing-forms and the 180-degree out of phase geometric structure of the modern vehicle. That's correct, the profile of the modern car is backwards, i.e. to say that the large end must always precede the small end through the environment. In an anatomical sense nature is female and egg shapes are always squeezed forth from the orifice large end preceding the small end where the squeeze is and not vice-versa, <----pun intended, otherwise they are breach i.e. 180-degrees out of phase, as is the profile of all modern egg-shaped cars.. Dumb ass engineers applied the physics backwards TSM Reverse Engineering Specialist Gravitics Among The Ancients http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com
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DR. LEE Member Posts: 886 From: unknown Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 06-09-2004 15:11
Dumb ass engineers applied the physics backwardsI agree...
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Onlyone New Member Posts: 5 From: Nevada Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 06-10-2004 05:00
First you need to know Atlantis was split up into two different groups, those of the Law of One and the Belialians. Or the followers of Light and the followers of Darkness. From the beginning, the darkness was on the rise in Atlantis, and finally the repercussions of this came upon them. How? Transgressions against the Law of One (fixed Universal principles, “Laws” of the way it IS), and against those of the Earth’s nature (which is in harmony with the Law of One), were everywhere. Great harm was done to the Earth by the followers of darkness, natural imbalances were created by them. A pillar of the Law of One is that of “cause and effect”. Thus did these actions bring about the physical fall of Atlantis.The greatest of these natural imbalances was created by drilling hugh holes in the Earth’s crust, down to the levels of molten Earth. The Belialians used the very gross physical forces of the inner Earth to generate their power. They used concentrated light energy beams (like lasers) to bore great holes in the Earth. Remnants of them can still be seen in many places, notably such as Florida, the Caribbean, and the “Blue Hole” of Belize. Creating their power plants was much like making a series of un-natural volcanoes, and it resulted in great instability and seismic disturbances. Even though they were warned of the consequences, the Belialians persisted in this un-natural activity, until it caused the Earth changes that destroyed Atlantis, and the Belialians of that time. Before the final destruction of Atlantis, knowing the time, knowing the signs, those of the light, went to many other parts of the Earth, in order to continue their work. During the exodus from Atlantis, many followed Grand Master Thoth (pronounced ‘Toth”) to the land of Khem, now called Egypt. There he built the Great Pyramid, and other temples and places of healing, for purposes of completing their work, initiating the wise, and enlightening the ignorant. When the work was completed in Egypt they left, and went to many lands Om, Oz and remnants of Mu, now called Tibet, Europe and parts of the Americas. There was one community of Atlanteans who didn’t live on Atlantis during the great destruction. Living in total isolation from the outside world until a few decades ago, these people remained of the pure genetic line of Atlantis. National Geographic did an article on it in the winter of ’99 and explorers from National Geographic entered the general area of the isolated community. They considered it an amazing discovery. The headline read “Shangri-la Discovered” (or something like that). Amongst other things, it described a lush sub-tropical valley amidst the Himalayas, so hidden by natural phenomenon that it never even showed up on spy satellite photos. They were also astounded by the flora and fauna. A paradise of trees, ferns and legendary animals, all hidden away from civilization, and according to them, any previous human contact. You’d expect such a discovery would be getting pretty decent media coverage, wouldn’t you? But what should have been the discovery of the century was barely getting any attention at all. In fact, the article was very hard to find and National Geographic didn’t respond to the newly discovered communities repeated inquiries. Then National Geographic Explorers TV show aired a story about that expedition – but the story was “cut off”, so to speak, leaving it with the expedition only discovering the waterfalls nearby. Nothing was said about the “big” discovery of the lush sub-tropical valley. Why? Perhaps something was found that doesn’t “fit” and would shake up the status quo? Such a scientific revelation would never happen. It’s really one out of hundreds of examples of the suppression of archeological finds that “don’t fit” the status quo. The archeological community doesn’t want any info out that “rocks the boat”, and this discovery falls into that category. They won’t spread the news of such a discovery amongst the scientific community, and the media won’t cover it either. But even more of an issue with this discovery, is that certain governmental forces don’t want any evidence coming out regarding who’s military forces were involved in destroying it. I can’t say who because of the further problems it would cause, but I will tell you it wasn’t Chinese. Again, the media wouldn’t touch the story even if someone brought them absolute proof of the ancient buildings, and/or evidence of who/how/why regarding the destruction. Another very important point I would like to make, there is a book in lieu of making information available to the public from a secret record chamber buried in Egypt near the sphinx. Mainstream public revelation of such a discovery is very, very, very unlikely. It would discredit careers, and upset the theories/beliefs of many people and organizations all over the world. The book reveals the essential contents and message of the Hall of Records in a condensed form. It basically covers the essentials – pre-history of our species, the changes that have occurred and are yet to be upon us, the nature of God and the Universe, our place in it all, and how to get free again (back to our spiritual, angelic state, and back to living in harmony and Oneness with the Universal Spirit). That last part is the most important. These ideas were all Grand Master Thoth’s ideas, and most come from a scroll and a later addendum to it. But what is particularly interesting about it, is that it is said to be written by the same author (the being who was also grand master Thoth) but in a different lifetime. That same being was also known in over 2 dozen incarnations, the first was Adam and the last was Jesus in certain latter incarnations, some others were Joseph (the son of Jacob) and Moses to name a few. Yes he stated the “Ark of the Covenant” was a component of the Great Pyramid, and he made it. What do we use power for? Numerous things just look around, they also needed power to their buildings, or vehicles, including the airborne terrestrial ships such as Thoth’s. They have other communities in the world today still using this power source. I don’t know the frequency of the Great Pyramid, but I can tell you this if you want to figure it out for yourself. In one octave of vibration is a Universe! Every octave is a duplicate of another except that it is of a higher or lower frequency. The note “A” is an “A” whether it is played in the highest octave of an instrument range, or the lowest. As the frequency of vibration increases, and goes beyond the range of hearing, it eventually comes within the range of sight. But the same Law that dictates the repeating notes of various octaves holds true. Colors are like the notes in the octave of vision. Each color has a ‘note’ – each color is a note, each note is a color. This principle allows you to find any note, in the “octave” of any vibrational frequency band. For instance, you can take the frequency of 440 for the note “A”, and keep doubling it to find the higher octaves. You can keep doubling it past the frequency band of sound, and on into the frequency band of light. You can then match your figures against the known frequencies for colors of light, and precisely determine the color of each note! Who could have imagined you could do such a scientific thing using the oldest name of God? If the above interested you and you want to find out more about the most ancient name for God and its most important representation, which is: the means of transition and manifestation of creation infinitely throughout ALL. Then click on this link: http://dsceus.com/enigma/viewtopic.php?t=102 There are other versions of the capacitors (Ark of the Covenant), some are still in use today, but the one from the Great Pyramid, is located in a small church in Ethiopia now. It was brought there by a small contingent of Jewish priests because they held it in very high regard as a holy religious item, and were concerned about it being desecrated or destroyed during an impending invasion. I hope I answered all your questions. TSM good observation, one who doesn’t learn from the past is condemned to repeat it. The ancient Atlantean texts, have their own predictions about what will occur regarding Earth changes in the next few years. There are also predictions about socioeconomic changes. Come to realize the benefit, the need and welcome some of the cleansing Earth changes, but still be heavy of heart about the suffering they will bring. As in Atlantis, we are again in the beginning of a period of radical changes for the Earth and its inhabitants, physically, mentally and spiritually (the entire threefold nature). Humanity’s selfishness has taken its toll and is starting to come back in full fury. With the damage that has been done already, there is no preventing the great Earth changes within the next decade. There are many things today that are similar to conditions in Atlantis before the great Earth changes that destroyed it – including the political powers. The forces of darkness – the Sons of Belial, have grown very powerful, and seek to enslave the world, at any cost. Many people who are not directly Sons of Belial, are pawns – by virtue of their own selfishness they ‘unconsciously’ follow the conscious evil ones. This is no excuse however, because they chose their ‘unconsciousness’. They are but selfish cowards who have willingly participated in the evil that will bring their own destruction. The brave people of this world open their eyes to what is happening, and refuse to be pawns. Even many of the brave ones are not aligned with the light yet, but at least they have resisted the darkness. These people can save themselves. After they suffer the horrors of what is about to befall the people of the Earth, they will have been purified enough – involuntarily as it may be – and this purification will awaken them to the Spirit within, and return them to serving Universal Will. The coming Earth changes are not ‘bad’ things, in and of themselves. They are necessary now. Necessary for a clean up of both the Earth, and of humans. As all of these changes come to pass, we are given the opportunity for transcension into a new world of Unselfish Love and harmony. Some will approach the sufferings of this purification with patience, understanding, and Unselfish Love. Others will react with selfishness, negativity, and resistance. Universal Law dictates that each individual, through their attitudes and resultant actions, create, and modify, their own experience. Those who Love Unselfishly, will ultimately experience the ‘heaven’ of that attitude, while those who are negative, will ultimately experience the ‘hell’ brought by that.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-10-2004 07:44
And then again we´re dealing with Ganesh particles, Great Pyramid stargates via 2-Torus Ring shapes.....Please click only the links here first, not to lose the train of thought cos is full of other references: www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/SegalConf.html#gphproduction www.newciv.org/Synergetic_Geometry/ www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/pyramid.html www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Gpyr.html www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Gypr.html#cofferark www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Ganesha.html www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/BlackHole.html
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-10-2004 07:54
When I was in Egypt in Luxor, Karnak and the pyramids, it gave me the impression Moses, the one who learned the wisdom of Egypt (Acts 7:22), indeed use too much of Egyptyan knowledge. We don't know who did the Great Pyramid, but please, check this about the "philition" used by the pharaoh: http://greatpyramid.org/aip/gr-pyr1.htm http://ad2004.com/Biblecodes/Hebrewmatrix/pyramidspt1.html http://askelm.com/doctrine/d040501.htm www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/New-Files/991130/the_pyramids.txt www.yfiles.com/pi.html www.ccs-hk.org/DM/pyramids/giza.html So, probably Joseph and others before Moses knew the measures needed for the ark, the dark temples, etc.
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 06-10-2004 08:25
Yes, but we or I have learned from the past and yet we are still consigned to repeat it!I decoded an Electrogravitic implosion system and air/spacecraft from the ancient Dogu schematics and have been constructing same, and yes both devices work btw! TSM Reverse Engineering Specialist Gravitics Among The Ancients http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 06-10-2004 08:35
Furthermore on the discussion of light and color. Its being used to subliminally deceive you, i.e. orange and blue being the most subliminally subjective color frequencies are flashed at you via your TV screen in an entice-ive manner to get you the consumer to buy their products.Want proof? Just look around at your household items and note the number of blue and orange colored products that you have purchased. Still not convinced? Turn on your TV set and take note of the number of times = frequency the colors orange and blue are flashed at you from the screen, which impinge upon your optic nerve! TSM Reverse Engineering Specialist Gravitics Among The Ancients http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-10-2004 18:37
What do you think about the work of Nikolay Kozyrev ? http://members.fortunecity.com/frolov/kozyrev.htm It seems for the Russians time is a physical substance or compressed energy as understood by Vadim Chernobrov doing experiences admiting the rate of time flow was changed about 1.5 seconds per 1 hour in experiences with mice. www.galactic-server.com/radio/chpaper.htm www.galactic-server.com/radio/chernobrov.htm www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes:read=45509 www.skybooksusa.com/time-travel/experime/chernobr.htm www.faraday.ru/content03.html What calls my attention is they have been using devices like the antigravity machine mentioned by Nick Cook (who got information from Dr. Paul La Violette), see "The Hunt for Zero Point" or Proyect Looking Glass. This is negative gravity. The device seems a gyroscope with 2 rings (or more?)of electromagnets and a gas injected in a barrel. The magnet spin runs in different direction. The effects of experiences are odd. They have said the hands or arms look invisible , the objects seem to duplicate and there's a sense of being in two places simultaneously. I wonder if Nikolai Tesla observed that phenomena too. We're aware in the so-called Philadelphia-Montauk experience, sailors got mad, some stuck to metal , others vanished and re-appeared, etc. It seems all these stories may have some truth hidden. What? Messing around with gravity means messing around with space and time. For these Russians time is like compressed energy, not just an illusion. That's why in Stanilism era many physicist were killed or emprisioned because some of these discoveries.That's simple history. Now, probably he had the same reasons Hitler had in his search for ancient technology.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-10-2004 18:42
In the case of Philadelphia experience, it was messing around with optical invisibility by using electromagnetism. Curious, the green clouds were appearing in the Destroyer just like in Bermudas Triangle experiences. Dielectrical breakdown of the air near the surface of the water.
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Onlyone New Member Posts: 5 From: Nevada Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 06-11-2004 14:33
Even though you don't see the Sun and planets 'touching' each other, they are indeed 'touching' and in constant contact with each other. There is also constant, interplay or intercourse of many energies. You just don't perceive it with your limited senses, although human scientists can pick up some of them with their scientific sensors. Yet they generally ignore things that aren't 'physical'. Take 'gravity' for just one thing. Ask a scientist why the planets are orbiting the Sun. Gravity. But just what is gravity? What does that really mean? Scientists don't really understand what gravity is. Could it actually involve outflowing love and attraction? First, let's draw a comparison between electricity, and the male/female polarities within us. People often think of electricity as positive and negative charges. But actually, it is just one energy, and it flows through something as 'one electrical flow', moving in one direction in a circle; it is only when you divide this flow by severing this flow, this circuit, separating the oneness of the flow somewhere, that you get the polarities - the polar opposite terminals of + and -. When severed, it is called 'positive' on the side where electrons would be outflowing, and 'negative' on the other side where there is a receptive, or 'vacuum' condition (an absence of electrons, and a condition of 'wanting' to accept electrons). When the circuit is intact, the flow is one circle, moving from the direction of what would be the positive terminal if it were cut, to the direction of what would be the negative terminal if it were cut. Look around you, everything you see is an 'illusion' of sorts, created by atoms grouped together in certain ways, and vibrating at different speeds. Look outside the planet, and you find vast infinite space, sprinkled with stars and planets. Stars and planets are virtually the same as atoms, but on a different scale. Atoms and star systems are all there really is in the entire Universe. And if we observe them, we find they both act in virtually the same manner - they have the same 'pattern' of existence. It is a pure pattern of a radiating energy, receiving energy, male/female attraction, attachment and dependence. And every element of a star system or atom, plays all these various roles. It is a 'pattern' of a 'way of life' that fits into everything else in the Universe harmoniously. Both follow some perfect marching orders that the Universe has come up with for life in harmony with all other life. Both function on positive and negative polarities attracting and engaging with each other. Male and female elements in a perfect perpetual dance. In that sense, it could be said that the entire Universal order is based on 'sex'. The workings of the atom, and of the solar systems are just like our essential beingness - our true nature. It is what we really are. Our true natures can thus be likened to the elements of a atom - electrons which are negatively charged ([-] receptive/female principal) are attracted to, and in the orbit of, the nucleus which has positive charge ([+]outflowing/male principal) of an atom. It is the same with the planet or planets (female) that are in orbit of a star (male) in One solar system. It is not by accident that we call the planet we live on 'mother' Earth. If the Earth is the 'mother' of life here, who is the 'father'? The Sun. Life would not exist without the interaction, the intercourse of the energies of either. A solar system is not really a bunch of planets and a star, it is one whole being. The male and female elements (stars/planets) are soulmates within this one being. It is simply Universal order. Nothing more. Everything is both 'guider' to something and 'guided' by something, subordinate to something, and superior to something, there is always someone better than you, and lesser than you. This is how the Universe 'runs', how all things link via their polarity. It is just polarity, not superiority or inferiority. See if this makes sense to you. The stars, planets, electrons, nuclei, men and women, all contain both the female and male elements, and should play both roles, in the proper order. A planet plays an outflowing (male) role to its moons, which are attracted to, and one with, the planet. A star, such as our Sun, plays an outflowing (male) role to the planets in this solar system, which in their attraction to the Sun, become one with the Sun, and receptive to its energy. But a star (such as our Sun) is also attracted to, one with, and receptive (female principal) to, something else (such as the 'black hole' at the center of our Milky Way galaxy, which our Sun orbits). So it plays both roles. That is the way of things in the Universe - all things. Only humans resist it and go against this flow. That is just one way you can look at these Universal 'give and take' links. There is certainly the 'attracted to' viewpoint - i.e., the moon is attracted to and orbits the planets, the planets are attracted to and orbit the stars, the stars are attracted to and orbit galactic centers, galactic centers are attracted to.... But again, there is the flip side. You can also see it from the "outflowing" viewpoint rather than the "attracted to" viewpoint - the planets flow energy to the moons, the Suns flow energy to the planets, the black holes flow energy to the Suns (contrary to what many scientists think), and something is flowing energy to the black hole, and something is flowing energy to that, and that, etc. ------------------ ALL is Vibration
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-11-2004 14:46
Please, explain what you mean saying black holes flow energy to the stars or whatever argument in which you are based upon in that sense. If the stars are equivalent to the male or positive force while the planets represent the female energy, what are the satelites or moons in that example?
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Onlyone New Member Posts: 5 From: Nevada Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 06-12-2004 13:14
If the background radiation from the big bang is at an almost equal distance (20 billion light years) in all directions from the earth does that mean we are at near the center of the known universe? No, it simply means that the part of the universe we see now is a "sphere" with us at the center. We have not yet seen far enough to tell whether we are far or near to the center of the universe. So we don’t know what the black holes orbit around yet. It would be interesting to plot all the known black holes and centers of galaxies and figure out the possible location of what they orbit and then concentrate on that area, to discover what is there. Check out this link discussing, if anything can escape a black hole, and what energy they observed does so far. http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/webpages/newton/askasci/1993/physics/phy77.htm Now see if this makes any sense to you. One of the great illusions of the senses is that matter attracts and repels matter. It is also believed that oppositely charged electrical particles attract each other and like charges repel. There is much evidence of the senses to justify such a conclusion, but it is of the same illusive nature as the evidence that deceives the senses into thinking that railroad tracks seem to meet upon the horizon. We see the tides rise toward the moon on one side of the earth and away from it on the other. We conclude that the moon attracts the earth and thus pulls the ocean toward it. But that does not account for the fact that the tides rise on the opposite side of the earth away from the moon. What is actually happening is that all conditioned matter is constantly seeking to balance its condition with all other matter. The moon and earth center their own respective wave fields surrounded by space. All wave fields are bounded by planes of zero curvature, and a zero pressure condition which, insulate each field in the universe from every other field. The very shapes of wave fields of earth and moon are forever changing to adjust their balance as the moon revolves around the earth. As a result, the mutual equators of both fields must lengthen, disc like, on a plane which intersects the center of gravity of each body. Naturally the tides rise toward, and away, from the moon. If the earth was all liquid instead of solid, it, likewise, would lengthen appreciably at its equators, disc-like, and flatten at its poles to meet the interchange of balance between the fields of the moon and Sun, as Jupiter and the outer planets are so noticeably doing. It would also throw off rings as Saturn and all the stars of heaven are doing, and for the same reason. We see the positive pole of a compass needle pointing toward the negative pole of a magnet and the negative pole of the magnet pointing toward the positive pole. This evidence is one of the bases of the conclusion. That is what our eyes see. What actually is happening is that they are voiding each other’s unbalanced condition to seek balance through each other. Opposite poles get as far away from each other as they can, until their opposition is voided by balance in their fulcrum and they cease to be. When the positive pole of a magnet is brought into contact with the negative pole of another magnet, that effect which we think of as attraction is one of voidance. It is a cessation of opposition or power to manifest anything. Polarity utterly ceases at that point and each opposite extends to each opposite end, each getting away from the other and through the other, spirally, as far as it can. If opposite poles attracted each other, then they would be together in the middle of a magnet instead of its ends. Matter neither attracts nor repels other matter, Unbalanced conditions in matter seek balanced ones, All matter is motion constantly seeking rest. This it can find only by balancing its condition with matter similarly conditioned by voiding the tensions of its sexed condition. That alone is the cause of motion and the reason for its continuance or discontinuance. This is a Universe of One Thing. All matter which is electrically separated from that oneness and seeks it. This is a fundamental principle and underlying desire of all Creation. It is as true of humans and their emotions as it is of matter.
Electricity is a division of the One Light into two extensions of that Light projected through each other, each becoming the other alternately. The One Light is a pressureless and sexless condition. The two light extensions from the One Light are opposed pressure and opposed sexed conditions. Thus there are but two conditions of matter – either expanding from stillness or contracting towards stillness. Each condition arises from the other. The instant it becomes its own opposite it gets as far away from that opposite as is necessary to find balance in a like condition. It seeks its like condition to find rest in a balanced condition, and not because the matter of it is attracted by the matter it seeks. A log floating down stream is seeking a balanced condition and is not being attracted by the dam or by other logs. These opposites represent the compression-extension father-mother principle, which integrates light into solids and disintegrates it into vapors and gases. All moving masses are unbalanced. To say that these opposites attract each other is like saying that north attracts south or that inward attracts outward or that wetness attracts dryness, or that darkness attracts incandescence. Water, for example, is a compressed condition. When water vaporizes it expands into its own opposite condition. It then seeks rest in clouds of like condition. When it thus finds rest in a balanced condition, its motion ceases and its opposition also ceases. Another effect of motion, which has misled the senses into believing that opposites attract, is that hot air is said to rise toward cold and cold air to descend toward heat. That is not what is happening, for like seeks like. Cooling air is expanding and rising toward cold, and heating air is contracting and falling toward heat. Negative oxygen bubbles gather at the positive poles of a charging electric battery, and positive hydrogen bubbles gather at the negative poles. What is actually happening is that the positive pole is taking the positive condition out of the water, leaving the negative oxygen as residue. The negative pole is, likewise, taking the negative condition out of the water, leaving the positive hydrogen as residue. Again like seeks like. The demonstration of the principle of like conditions seeking like is in the elements of matter. If opposites attracted opposites according to present concepts, it would be impossible to gather together one ounce of the same elements. All elements seek their kind. In any chemical decomposition of compounded mixtures, each element seeks and finds similarly conditioned elements. Nature’s gyroscopic principle does this automatically. Every element has its own gyroscopic relation to the axis and amplitude of its wave. Each seeks that relation of pressure and moves until it finds itself in the orbit of its own gyroscopic plane of pressure. So my original statement should be modified to be: Could it actually involve outflowing love and illusionary attraction (which is actually like seeking like). What are the satelites or moons in that example? Remember everything plays two roles both ‘guider’ to something (something that orbits around it) and ‘guided’ by something (what it orbits around). So what are the moons and where do they come from and where are they going? All moons came from the planets they orbit, first they are gases and vapors around the planet, then they become rings around the planet, then they become moons around the planet, then they become comets. And eventually part of a star. They are always seeking rest or balance in like kind conditions, getting as far away as they can to achieve this balance or rest. All conditions are always changing, some faster then others. Radioactivity is a quick return to the state of rest, which underlies the spiritual or invisible universe. And that is what a lightning flash is, as contrasted to flame which is a slower return, or to decay which is a still slower return. The inbreathing of spheres generates low potential into high. The generative process of Nature is gravitation. The outbreathing of spheres radiates high potential into low. The degenerative process of Nature is radiation. Multiplication and division of expressed energy into the high and low potential of gravitation and radiation is made possible by the plan of Nature which causes all actions of Nature to extend radially from omnipresent points of magnetic Light. Gravitation pulls spirally inward from within to wind light waves into solids to center space. Radiation thrusts spirally outward to unwind dense solids into space to surround solids. Each are equal reactions of the other. Each becomes the other sequentially. Gravitation is the positive electric principle which exerts its pressures centripetally toward the maximum incandescent points of compression in every wave-field. It is the father principle of Nature, the integrating principle of 'uphill flow of energy" which forever balances its "downhill flow." Radiation is the negative electric principle which exerts its pressures centrifugally toward its wave-field boundary planes of magnetic Light. It is the mother principle of Nature, the disintegrating principle of "downhill flow of energy" which forever balances its "uphill flow." Gravity gives a material form to bodies to manifest the idea of bodies. Radiactivity gives spiritual formlessness to the heavens for re-giving to earths as formed bodies. There is no "center of gravity" in Nature. The centering Light of every mass is still magnetic Light. Likewise the still axis of every vortex is still magnetic Light. Every action in Nature demonstrates this principle. The expanded condition of space is millions of times greater in volume than the compressed condition of its centering body. This explains the seeming mystery of gravitation and radiation, which causes solid objects to fall toward the earth and gases to rise toward space. Want to see the complete post about this and related discussion, then click on this link. http://www.ppisc.net/viewtopic.php?t=93
Also the link given in one of my previous posts is a dead link, the forum switched servers recently, so below is the new good link http://www.ppisc.net/viewtopic.php?t=29
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-12-2004 19:18
This is so complicated. I don't know why but while I was reading your stuff an image came to my mind: two guys pulling each extreme of a long rope , sometimes one is winning and others is loosing.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-12-2004 19:20
Another image: Titan Time-Chronus being trapped in Tartarous dark dangeons. A big MOUTH cannibalizing universes and another black hole throwing up everything back.... Just thinking aloud...
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-12-2004 19:22
dungeon
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Onlyone New Member Posts: 5 From: Nevada Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 06-12-2004 19:46
lol, you know I could of just said the voidance principle because that is what it is.------------------ ALL is Vibration
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Phoenix New Member Posts: 3 From: Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 08-15-2004 13:13
Alumni, Dr. Lee, Temporal Subliminal Man, FrankM, Silver Plated, dhcarr, PeterV, oscar, Phildonnia, Spoiler, Peter, Martha Keltz, via mars, via mars, via mars 2, cleasterwood, bluducky, Onlyone, JohnE, I have enjoyed the presentations. Would one of you be so kind as to enlighten me. Do any of you have a premise on which to: a) base your belief on technological comparison, or b) is this primarily a discussion of "talk-the-talk"? I am most interested in "a)". Dr. Lee - You present the premise that GP is a resonator. Could you explain, please? I'll provide letters of introduction. Temporal Subliminal Man - I'd like to accept the offer to join you for discussion and demonstration in your endeavors. Symbol linguistics is a matter of utmost importance. RIW and vortex physics are part of the answer. Let's compare theorae, hmm? You said "discredited"; by whom? When you provide 'proof of concept' there is nothing to disprove. There is success and those whom cannot conceive of success. (PeterV - Egyptians vs. Romans) PeterV - "...if Egyptians had had antigrav..." Perhaps they didn't "know" they had it. Perhaps as Martha Keltz pointed out the Egyptians were workers/slaves to an end but without a knowledge of what it was that they possessed. oscar - 2 Torus ring or two-torroid ring? TSM deals with vortex physics. Are you indicating the same thing? Martha Keltz - A brilliant statement. Huzzah! via mars/via mars 2 - 2-Tesla = earth core energy? Magnetic Resonance Imagery/MRI deals with Tesla theory and implementation. The discussion regarding the Philadelphia Experiment was not in enough depth. Alignment of molecules is part-and-parcel of MRI. The subsequent wave transmissions and signal responses introduced into the mantissa of array processing produces the imagery. Childs play...I'd like to meet the child. cleastyerwood - Your comment to PeterV about "not ready" is accurate. I'd like to delve further into the ability to concieve of solutions in order to respond to propositions. bluducky - Are you saying "when taught, do you learn"? OnlyOne - Good presentation. Atlantis and thermodynamics. Thermal coupling. male/female poles. Two conditions of matter. Natures gyroscopic principle. I will be available to discuss this. JohnE - "Not one scrap of evidence"? If you build it, will they come? TSM is walking-the-walk. Are you ready to open your eyes? The answers are there for all to see. And you'll like what you see. I need a forum to discuss. I found this one. Teach me. Helmholtz resonators, george Barton, Bauvel, The Stargate Conspiracy, Sitchin, Gravitics, Ancient Astronauts, Quantum Electro-dynamics, Single-sideband spectral holographic optical memory, Mazar technology. We have a puzzle. We have a solution. What lies in between is progress? Or history? Perhaps the manufacturer is awaiting our arrival. Phoenix [This message has been edited by Phoenix (edited 08-15-2004).]
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 08-15-2004 14:54
You might be interested to know that I have a new book coming out just as soon as I can get a new PC that is big/fast enough to run the e-book compiler programs. The book will detail all of my discovers, and is graphically illustrated, alas it still has some misspelled words, not sure if Ill fix them or not, just depends on the time constraints. I actually wrote “Ancient Astronauts The Six Thousand Year Old Anti-g Schematic” first, but due to the rejection of mainstream critics, I separated myself from my ancient schematic decodings’ and went “technology only” and suddenly I get more attention than you could shake a stick at… So then I re-wrote it into “QEG-implo-propulsion” but after a while people began asking me how I come up with the technology. I felt compelled to show em the ancient schematics, so now I have two versions of the same information except one book is geared more toward the technical audience and the latter is set right in the heart of the ancient schematic decodings’ TSM Reverse Engineering Specialist http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/
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Phoenix New Member Posts: 3 From: Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 08-15-2004 16:26
Temporal Subliminal Man, When are you available to meet? As I noted to Dr. Lee there are letters of introduction available. The schematic effort is only wasted on those unable to comprehend. I've taught several classes in the subject and have convinced ardent scheptics. Going from the obvious to the in-obvious. My projected effort will be to construct the device. Naturlich. Phoenix
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 08-15-2004 20:38
PhoenixWhen you say, “taught classes in the subject” do you mean modern schematics in general, or do you mean ancient schematics such as the ones that I have deciphered? I have constructed my second QEG-circuit module and have been lighting bulbs from as far away as 10-feet. The first circuit was a static proof of concept model. I have also tested for ion fields and fond them and also get a reading in the MHz range. I built a half-backed transformer from scrap parts and when I placed it into its location on the circuit board I could fell my bodies core temperature rise as if I were being irradiated in a microwave oven. Also I placed a capacitor/lifters style airplane above the QEG-circuit in an airtight room and it began to spin around. I hope to assemble the new transformer for the QEG-circuit just as soon as I get the Ram-Implo-Wing remounted onto my van. I am currently redesigning the wing, and have one additional change that I might make in the next few days, that is if the new design doesn’t perform adequately. What kind of electronic skills do you posses, are a Tesla coil expert? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gravitic_solutions/ http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/ TSM@brightok.net Reverse Engineering Specialist http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/
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Temporal Subliminal Man Member Posts: 1105 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 08-16-2004 09:19
via mars 2 The problem is that once you patent something it becomes public knowledge and people start coping it, with or without your connect I might add.
Your father might have thought that the information concerning the vibration coupler was safer by not patenting it. Look through your dad’s paper work and see if you can find any NDA-contracts (nondisclosure agreements). They will usually have a drawing and a description of the invention and sometimes they will be on the company’s NDA letterhead. If you find one then you investigate and find out if they are using your/dad’s gismo. If you can prove that he disclosed it to them and they are using it then you may have a royalty claim that you can use to bring a legal stand against them with. Best of luck PS no such paper work from you has arrived yet TSM Reverse Engineering Specialist http://ancientgravitics.tripod.com/
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Akata Member Posts: 798 From: Maribor,Gorenska,Slovenian Registered: May 2003
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posted 09-17-2004 22:10
the giza piramid is not a power plant or a machine,is the center of 12 piramids of the cirles,and so creates positive fetback around it
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HereForNow Member Posts: 252 From: Erie, PA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 10-02-2004 09:06
http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/Places/Stuttgart/19080804p01.html The above websight contains an interesting lechture of basically everything you have been discussing.It discloses the facts surrounding a wide range of ideas that people have about ancient technology and the Giza area. This next link is one that I found recently and was about 4 pages of some of the most interesting discoveries made in Giza. http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/pyrmyst.html I must admit to being abit skeptical about what this author was saying.Now I can honestly say that I do beleive what was documented.Edger Cayce may have been right all along........
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HereForNow Member Posts: 252 From: Erie, PA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 10-24-2004 16:25
I know this may seem abit odd for a guy like me to disclose but I'm tired of not knowing the answer. I have here several strange frequencies that I would love to have encode that are in a mime format.I can't shake the feeling that there is something to be discovered here. Please be careful guys! If any of you can encode these,I will share with you where and how I found these. Warning: I'm not sure if these frequencies are anything important or not. I am sure that the person that disclosed these gave them freely with a disclosure and will not take any responsibility for what happens upon receiving Decoded data of what these frequencies are from or what they produce. I am not affraid to know the truth about these and I need help to discover what it is that these frequencies origionated from. Will someone please help me? Here they are: 1420.193400 MHz. 1482.199662 MHz. 2840.201234 MHz. 6200.112500 MHz. 6537.024104 MHz. 6537.024148 MHz. 8401.411235 MHz. 8402.314158 MHz. 8403.141583 MHz. 8405.251225 MHz. 8408.412358 MHz. 8417.210479 MHz. 8422.111065 MHz. 8458.106584 MHz. 8514.106546 MHz. 9112.106580 MHz. 9714.511325 MHz. 9523.300739 MHz. If you do not wish to disclose this information via forum,please E-mail me with any kind of answer or E-mail me to make other arrangments for contact on this matter. I am doing this as a chance to discover the truth of a claim that was made and I will share that later on down the road. For now can someone give me a hand with this mystery?
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HereForNow Member Posts: 252 From: Erie, PA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 10-24-2004 16:46
This is a test post:I'm not sure if the other one went though or not...... Challenge open to all who want it... Decode these: 1420.193400 MHz. 1482.199662 MHz. 2840.201234 MHz. 6200.112500 MHz. 6537.024104 MHz. 6537.024148 MHz. 8401.411235 MHz. 8402.314158 MHz. 8403.141583 MHz. 8405.251225 MHz. 8408.412358 MHz. 8417.210479 MHz. 8422.111065 MHz. 8458.106584 MHz. 8514.106546 MHz. 9112.106580 MHz. 9714.511325 MHz. 9523.300739 MHz.
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HereForNow Member Posts: 252 From: Erie, PA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 10-28-2004 22:58
I was reading though the rest of this post and decided that TSM has a great research sight that alot of people I know do not know about. http://www.ufoarea.com/main_aas.html This sight is packed,"I mean packed" with information on ancient technology and even more. When he mentioned it in other posts I couldn't beleive that someone else even knew about it. I know this web sight very well and if I had to rate it,I would give it atleast a nine out of ten..... As for the above thread that I left,I now have someone who is working on decoding these frequencies. I would give you the first batch of results but I don't think it will all fit. At any rate,it's very interesting to say the least. I'll keep you all posted.
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DR. LEE Member Posts: 886 From: unknown Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 11-11-2004 10:10
Hello everyone[This message has been edited by DR. LEE (edited 11-11-2004).]
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bluducky Member Posts: 1498 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 11-11-2004 15:53
Hello Dr. Lee, Feel free to join in on one of the other threads!
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DR. LEE Member Posts: 886 From: unknown Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 11-15-2004 03:46
Thanks bluducky!
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Akata Member Posts: 798 From: Maribor,Gorenska,Slovenian Registered: May 2003
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posted 11-26-2004 08:09
mars i have enuf of you sectoids leader.. oscar you are clone,nothing more than that lemurian clone,sectoid leader i now about the alien reproduction aka clonning in human civ,you cant win this war,the survivors of the atlantean empire will not alove the draco take over earth maybe the 60% to 40% for them,but i not alone,the galactic federations are back,the survivors from the draco invasion,i now that the civil-war with other races was created by the spy of dracos,there acient control network is disable on terra/earth,rama empire survivors if bush ilumenti leader not respect or heritage of atlantean empire we will be at war,but i dont one to go to war that wars bring hate,and hatas spawns more war,never ending circel of doom i dont want you use the atlantean techolongy on my cousions the humansbefore great cleasing advanded homo sapiens aka Atlanteans after the great clesing homo sapiens aka Humans what the humans dont have to ther more advanced cousins,we have more evolved brains,the body is the same,we 4 lobes not like humans 2 lobs,when they lack mind power lob and will power lob we cant resist the draco acient control devices ,sectoid leader via mars 2,clone....... ------------------ --For The Pride Of -- ---Atlantean Race--- ---And For our Noble-- -----Ensters----------- -AkatariusTheWiseOne--
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Akata Member Posts: 798 From: Maribor,Gorenska,Slovenian Registered: May 2003
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posted 11-26-2004 08:25
we can resist the acient draconian control sistem
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