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Topic: The Secret in the Bible
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bluducky Member Posts: 1498 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-16-2004 18:14
Oscar??... are you there???....Firstly, i'll address the 'Rainbow Serpent' (Serpent of Light) and Khepra, then i'll later move on to the Great Pyramid. (Which may even be unnecessary after reading this) Rainbow Serpent:
“Ancient Egyptian priests held a tradition maintaining that, ‘A serpent lies coiled in the Great Pyramid’, and Sumarians of 4000 years ago called the Great Pyramid ‘The House of the Serpent’. Ancient rabbis regularly referred to the Torah as the ‘Serpent Book of the Ages’ and A ‘Serpent that cannot be slain’ safeguarded the Book of Thoth.” “As long as humanity kept records of it’s existence, serpents were used as emblems of the intelligence of God. In ancient times and as widespread and diverse as Australia, China, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Babylonia, Sumaria, Egypt, India, and Central America, serpents were feared and worshipped as gods for thousands of years. If there is a common origin to the mythology of the serpent, it may have developed at the Great Pyramid of Giza. To this day, serpents or dragons signify divine heritage and royalty in many Asian countries, while in the West the serpent represents wisdom and Knowledge.” “‘Serpents were everywhere connected with his worship’, was said about Aesculapius, the Greek mythological god of medicine. He carried about a knotty wooden staff entwined with a single snake standing on it’s tail which he said represented certain powers.” “In 1910, the American Medical Association adopted the staff as it’s insignia, and the British and French armies, World Health Organization, US Air Force Medical Service and other groups the world over, also used the single-snaked staff to identify their medical professions. A staff with two vertical coiled snakes, the Caduceus, is the official symbol of the US Army Medical Corps Navy Pharmacy Division, and Public Health Service. The two-snake design dates back some thousands of years to Egypt and reappears in Greek mythology with a pair of wings added, as Hermes’ and or staff.” “There is an overwhelming reason why the serpent was held in such high respect, and looked upon with awe as God. Mentioned earlier was the Egyptian belief that ‘a reptile had been fashioned in that place’, the complex at Giza. But what was that ‘reptile’?” “Existing today is an ancient papyrus called ‘The Book of Overwhelming Apepi’, Apepi, the Devil of Darkness, the Archfiend of RA, and is devoted to the protection of RA, the great Lord of the temple. The present interest in the papyrus centers on the fact that it contains two copies of the Egyptian story of Creation and each story is entitled, ‘The book of knowing the Evolution of RA and of overthrowing Apepi’. The word rendered ‘Evolution’ is ‘Khepra’, derived from the root ‘Kheper’, which means ‘to make, to fashion, to produce, to form, to become’, so that the title of the writing may just as well have said, ‘The book of the Creations of RA’. The book outlines aspects that early Egyptians believed were made, created, or came inot being through RA. However, the vital point is that RA said he took uypon himself the form of a god called Khepra, a very early deity in Egyptian culture who was intimately connected with the creation of things of every kind. In some hieroglyphs, Khepra is described as ‘Lord of Life and Death’. The temple priests believed that Khepra came into being as a direct form of RA who had specially ‘worked a charm’ upon his heart to create Khepra.” “Khepra then, was a sacred essence that proceeded from a higher intelligence and formed the Secret in the Bible and other mystical matters. Khepra came to be symbolized by the famous beetle or scarab that belonged to the class of ‘Coprophagi’ or ‘dung-eaters’.” “The ancients believed that RA endowed Khepra with ‘splendour and power in the form of a serpent’ and that Khepra was another form of RA. Importantly, Khepra is identified as the god in the ‘temple of the benben’ at Heliopolis and that temple was dedicated to him. They believed all the attributes of RA were contained in Khepra and he was as great as RA. Like RA, Khepra was often described as ‘the Sun-god of Heliopolis’ and, importantly for the development of this premise, ‘The Serpent god’.” “But what was Khepra? This hieroglyphic inscription provides part of the answer:
…”The god Khepra who is unknown and who is more hidden than the other gods, whose vicar is the divine disk… He is a flame which sends forward rays of light with mighty splendour but though he can be seen in form, observation can be made of him at his appearance yet he cannot be understood, and at dawn mankind make supplication unto him; his risings are in Crystal among the Company of the Gods, and he is the beloved object of ‘every god’. In that extraordinary narrative Khepra is described as an ‘object’ in the form of a ‘Flame’ that could not be ‘understood’ and rising in ‘crystal’. He was in the ‘Temple of the benben’ that was built to house the benben while the Great Pyramid was under construction.” “In the interim, the benben was placed high on a large square stone pillar creating the original concept of an obelisk, and that is why the enclosure was sometimes called the ‘Temple of the Obelisk’. Combining the information recorded in ancient records, a precise description is given of an extraordinary luminous serpent-type coloured image rising vertically in the crystal benben. It was called Khepra, the Serpent god, and the splendour of the phenomena was revered for centuries.” “In the oldest Egyptian records, Khepra was directly associated with a brilliantly coloured bird that also lived in the ‘Temple of the Benben’. That bird was beautiful, most holy, and entirely feminine. Because of it’s vibrant colours, it was sometimes called the ‘Sunbird’. More often, it was called the ‘Pyramidion Bird’, or the Bennu bird (Benu). In later times, the Bennu bird was called the ‘Phoenix’ in Greek, but it originated with the gods in Heliopolis.” “The earliest known reference was by Hesiod the Greek in the eighth century BC when he referred to it as the Arabian Bird. An extremely gentle and delicate creature, it was said to weep tears of incense, while it’s blood was balsam. Tradition recorded that the Bennu Bird fed only on air, harming no other creature. It was extremely graceful, with brilliant plumage and a distinctive tuft of feathers at the back of it’s head.” “The length of the Bennu Bird’s life differed from writer to writer, but most believed it lived for 500 or a thousand years. In the Book of the Dead, it was called the ‘Lord of the Jubilees’ and described as the free-flowing spirit of RA. It was the most celebrated of all symbolic creatures featured by ancient Mystery Schools and was used as an emblem for concealing the secret truths of esoteric philosophy. “The original sanctuary of the Bennu Bird was called Het Benben, ‘The Temple of the benben’ in Heliopolis where it lived in the Benben with the Serpent-shaped god Khepra. The Bennu Bird subsequently introduced the belief of immortality of the human soul in a new birth, according to a particular cycle. The Bennu Bird thus became the symbol of the flight of the soul and it’s resurrection. In the Late Period, it was considered a manifestation of the resurrected Osiris, and at one point in the Book of the Dead, the deceased stated, ‘I have gone forth as the Bennu Bird’.” “The Bennu Bird never died permanently. Legend held that it existed when the Universe was created and that it knew the secrets of life and reincarnation that even particular deities did not know. When the Bennu Bird knew it’s time to die had come, it gathered a load of fragmented twigs and from them built a nest. At the next dawn, the great bird faced the rising sun and sang in a beautiful voice. The heat from the sun ignited the fragrant spices, and the Bennu Bird died in it’s own funeral pyre. It then spent 3 and a half days in a worm-like form before arising out of the ashes and recreating itself.” “The Book of the Dead identifies the Bennu Bird with Khepra, and the crystal benben. In the 83rd chapter, which provides a curious formula for enabling the deceased to take the form of the Bennu, the bird was made to say: ‘I came into being from unformed matter, I came into existence with the god Khepra; I am the germs of every god’.” Getting back to the serpent. It is by now well known that when a light is shone down upon a glass pyramidal structure of the same angles and ratio as the Great Pyramid, a spectacular spiral or swirl of light resembling a serpent standing upright upon it’s tail is seen. That beautiful, proportionate shape is in the seven colours of the rainbow, and it’s highest point disappears out of the top of the apex in an ever decreasing spiral.
This shape was present within the Benben of the Great Pyramid, and the ancient Egyptians called this shape Khepra – to them, it was God. “Whenever a light is shone down into a glass pyramid in exact scale or proportion as the Great Pyramid, a ‘Rainbow Serpent’ is created. The light provides a type of force or energy that, in turn, creates the vertical spiral of light, a serpent upraised, invisible in rock, but visible in a clear substance. That is what the Ancient Egyptian Priesthood meant when they said, ‘A serpent lies coiled in the Great Pyramid’.” “The Priesthood knowledge appears to directly reference the known existence of an invisible spiral force operating within the confines of the Great Pyramid, precisely in the same manner as the spiral of visible light was seen in the Benben. That explains exactly what the Benben originally was, but much larger; It was a clear pyramidal structure acting as a focal point to gather in, convert and distribute light from the sun into energy, and project it’s force deep into the heart of the Pyramid.” “It appears the Benben was primarily intended as a type of amplifying principle to activate power into the specially designed chambers and passageways in the structure below. With the sun shining down upon it, a huge Rainbow Serpent was created and could be seen from miles away. Since the pyramid form was the only method to generate (or create) the Rainbow Serpent, the serpent became the symbolic form of initiates. The Book of the Dead said initiates into the Egyptian Mysteries entered ‘a serpent’ in which they ‘shed their skin’ and emerged ‘in the form of a resurrected RA, bright and shiny’. That is the fundamental nature of the initiatory process…” The ‘Book of God’, which was found by Hilkiah around 400BC, contained coloured illustrations or depictions and precisely described the Rainbow Serpent:
‘One of it’s illustrations represents the Divine Essence… like a luminous serpent proceeding up to form a circle, and then having attained the highest point of it’s circumference, the ineffable Glory bends back down again.’ The ancient description suggests the Rainbow Serpent being in a double helix format, like a DNA strand. “The ancients looked upon the spiral image in the Benben as ‘a Serpent occupied by a god’ and they called it Khepra. The oldest writings known to mankind today make constant references to it’s existence and thousands of people over many centuries were recorded to have eye-witnessed the Phenomena. However, there is more to that fascinating spiral of coloured light than is imagined and it’s visual presence on top of the Great Pyramid was only it’s Earthly (exoteric) garment. There was also an esoteric nature to Khepra and that aspect raises the fundamental nature of the Bible to a stunning new level.” The reason WHY the Torah is Holy: “For thousands of years, spiritual teachers of Jewish traditions claimed that the five major Hebrew texts making up the Torah were ‘holy’, of special significance, and of supernatural origin…. And they were right. By producing an exact physical copy of the spiral shape of the Rainbow Serpent from plastic, brass, a strip of metal or a similar solid substance, it’s significance becomes apparent, and that item could best be described as ‘light descended into matter’.” “It is the primary element of both the Book of Thoth and the Secret in the Bible and the precise twisty shape of the Rainbow Serpent provides the necessary form to physically demonstrate a major part of the Secret. When the plastic or metal reproduction of the Rainbow Serpent is slowly revolved, 22 different shaped shadows are cast from that one element, and those shapes directly make up the 22 separate letters of the alphabet that the Torah was written in.” “Put in the simplest terms, the alphabet in which the Torah of the bible was originally and secretly written was one composed of a series of 22 cosmic glyphs that emanated with ‘splendour and power in the form of a serpent’ from a vertical spiral of light in the Benben on top of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. Evidence of that knowledge points directly at the undeniable input of a higher intelligence, a superior mind source.” “It does not matter, therefore, what the words of Ezra’s Torah Scroll say, or how inaccurate they are. It is irrelevant if they are fictitious… What matter is the knowledge that every word of the Torah Scroll was written in a Sacred Script… A Divine Language. The Torah is composed of a series of supernatural letters sourced from the shape and design of the Rainbow Serpent inside the Benben that ‘came from the sky' thousands of years ago. To summarize: The ‘Rainbow Serpent’ (Serpent of Light) IS Khepra, which occupied the Great Pyramid’s Crystal Benben and the shadows cast from this shape make up the Divine Language, the language in which the Torah was written, and the Language which was secreted into the depictions in the Book of Thoth. (Tarot) It was not the words which were written that were important, but the letters in which they were written. These Divine Letters, used in the Correct sequence (Which Ezra secreted into the 22 consecutive verses of Psalm 119) brought about an Out of Body Experience, and allowed one to ‘see heaven’. This was described in the New Testament, when Christ was Crucified. He was simply going through his initiation ceremony, and his discussion with another ‘victim’ on the cross confirmed this. When Christ said, ‘you will be with me today in Paradise’, He was really describing that to those who wish to reach the highest spiritual level, they need to understand the Torah in four levels, called Pshat, Ramaz, Daresh, and Sud; PRDS. Each level being a different 'depth of understanding', as it merged from exoteric to esoteric. When vocalized, PRDS says ‘Pardes, or PaRaDiSe’. Those initials and the knowledge they represent are all related to the Great Pyramid and it’s Benben. (Source reference: Tony Bushby: ‘The Secret in the Bible’)
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-16-2004 18:18
bluebird - since i was on my way to the joke thread, and without reading above post, i aver that the serpent is a reptilian zeta creature, mummified. no kidding ... that's the big secret. we are not who/what we think we are. scarey, isn't it?now i forgot my joke ... shucks!
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ANU ZOPHIM Member Posts: 416 From: MEMPHI, TENN., USA Registered: May 2002
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posted 06-16-2004 19:42
John A. West has an excellent book called "The Serpent and the Rainbow"there was also a movie called that in the 80's. In Yoga they practice something called Kundalini, it is called "awakening the sleeping serpent. Pregnant women are forbid to do this meditation. I heard that a woman went soo far into mental meditation that she didn't come out of it. Maybe she found the Garden of Bliss.
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-17-2004 07:02
perhaps boreas would like to tackle PRDS?
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 08:30
Bluducky: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm gonna write to Antony West right away to find more about this! Let's see if I get the e-mail among my papers! I don't know for sure, but it seems Maya Pyramid was painted like rainbow. And in fact a shadow of the serpent rises in the exact time towards the peak of Sun Pyramid. It was needed all this time to find out this information. Now, please check about God's name in that book. Since that's one of the secrets of Judaism and Isaiah 19:18-24 stablishes the relation between God's name and Egyptian altar which is the Great Pyramid. Have you ever seen a depiction of the illustrations in the Book of God?
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 09:07
I was wrong, while some temples were painted in different color each floor, the pyramids in Mexico were painted red: www.differentworld.com/mexico/places/mexico_city/teotihuacan.htm Interesting comparing with what happened in Egypt: www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi70.htm www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi154.htm What you posted about paradise and Christ has a new twist in the many times I have mentioned Christ compared himself and crucifiction (in a private conversation at night with Nicodemus) to Moses' copper snake serpent, John 3:14; Numbers 21:8,9. Knowing this, it's understandable the cherubs in Eden were using "swords of fire" like Mayan Jedi.Mayas call that sword "Xiuhcoatl". Please check up: www.thetruthishere.com/mayanjedi.html www.thetruthishere.com/cherub_lucifer.html www.thetruthishere.com/flyingserpent.html
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 10:05
Cherubs are in fact trapped in "suspended animation", the Titans trapped in chains of eternal darkness, the Djiings trapped in Aladin's lamp, the Cenobites in their Tesseract-Hypercubes. Once I had a dream about a pyramid and the corridors were like a Freemason chamber...the impression was vivid but I wouldn't remember if unless you mentioned your dream. Hancock says the pyramids and megaliths are placed in world grid but the invisible presence is perceived and not good. That was made to fill the Earth with violence. Hence, if Isaiah in fact was saying the builders somehow rejected the corner stone (pyramidion), could it mean God put a seal in it or trapped entities there like the other mock up pyramids?
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 14:53
2 Peter 2:4 mentions the "angels" (cherubs) who sinned. He said they are locke dup in Tartarous. That's the Greek dungeon of the Titans not casual spirits of men. One of the Titans was CHRONUS (tick-tack-tick-tack-tick-tack)and he said DARK chambers or abyss as in Judas 6. It was always thought is in moral sense. I think is something regarding God's physics and laws. Ezekiel 28:14-16 mentions the cherub from Tyrus (Mars in Phoenicia) who was expelled from the mountain of God (the same as Isaiah). In Sumerian language, I have said many times that word was "ekur" meaning a house-mountain. A pyramid....like the pyramids of Mars.Verse 20 mentions to turn the face against Sidon (Cydonia), a place on Mars baptized by Freemasons. The word "heru" in Egyptian meant "face" and was the root-word for the sphinx in Egypt (a cherub), called Horemakhet meaning "Horus in the horizon", Horus being the falcon. Since we know on Mars, the "eroded" mountain is the erosion on artificial structure with a zoo-anthropomorphic code , the faces of lion-falcon-apeman-bull, it's obvious Samael-Satan, the God of War was the cherub expelled from the ben ben stones on Mars and probably somewhere else...like Orion, Pleiads. On Mars we see not only that face but another complete sphinx in front of another peak or pyramid-mountain but also the same Fibonacci codes and math like in Gizah, Egypt. Cairo in Egypt means "Mars" in Arabian language. The Garden of Eden and cherub himself are compared with jewels as devices for the stargate in verse 13 of Ezekiel 28. Edom and Esau the red ones are linked with Satan in Hebrew myths and we know there are pharaoh faces on Mars surface as well.Ezekiel 32:29,30 mentions together Edom-Pharaoh and Sidon (Cydonia). www.mt.net/~watcher/stones.html www.mt.net/~watcher/monument.html www.mt.net/~watcher/mars.html www.mt.net/~watcher/newun.html http://petragrail.tripod.com/mars.html http://petragrail.tripod.com/megalith.html
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 15:08
Though there are many truths in those sites, it's not correct to say Sidon's face (Cydonia face) represents Christ. This is not what Ezekiel said and Christ was always associated with arcangel Mikail (only appears in singular the title arcangel in the Bible) but in no way a cherub.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 16:00
In another forum I was discussing these items and someone wrote this: The PYRAMID/TEMPLE is a device created to interface with the Eternal Consciousness to create a hole in time/space for the purpose of travel . And last but not least a means to tap into unlimited Energy more than enough to run the planet . All this in a device with no moving parts . I prefer to look at it as the perfect device . In The middle of the page http://vincentbridges.com/Egypt/djed.html we find "The Djed " this illustration is actually the "Tet of Osirus " It is simply a schematic . Thats a blueprint for a device . The device consists of 4 parts . They are from bottom to the top as follows "the Earth" the base of the pillar . "The Ark of the covenant " is next represented as a box toped by to winged falcons, its the power source . "The Djed pillar" is next it is a power transfer energy modification unit ,think resistor . Next we see the two eyes of osirus just above you see two horns and on top of them you see an orb . The horns were actually two hands of gold they held "The Eye of Osirus " which was a crystal ball .But this was no ordinary chunk of si02 . It was a carefully constructed man made object .that was created to generate the necessary field of energy . The "Eye" had some very interesting properties to it . When water is poured over it it is repelled . Metalic objects are also repelled will float on the energy emanated from this crystal . The ball its self has what appears to be 4 pyramids within it pointing to the center . The one the US government obtained in the 70s was tested and the MIT guys said it was a mono pole with a microscopic network of some metallic material . they also said at the time that it was impossible for it to exist . Above the orb is the Symbolic representation of "the Stairway to Heaven " In reality the Orb was a the top of the pyramid directly above it was a metallic rod . This rod ran through the top of the pyramid . And created a Spire at the top,this was also connected to a heavy metallic Rail that ran down each corner of the Pyramid .The metallic Rods and Rails were used to transmit the energy of the "Eye" to the whole structure .Remember the effect this Crystal has on metals . The Pyramid as All True Pyramids is made up of a stone which is mostly SI02 Quartz Crystal . In Egypt its Sandstone with marble finish in Atlantis it was solid Marble . An interesting little ritual evolved in Egypt. The Pharaoh would from time to time take one of these crystal balls to display the power was still with them . He would first take the Hook which was used to handle these Crystal Balls . He slid the hook around the base of the Ball and used it to lift it without touching it . He then took his Flail and as he held the crystal aloft he passed his Flail above it . The Flail having metal edges would Float on the energy emitted by the Crystal . Thus displaying to the people he had the Divine power . LOL Also water was poured on the Crystal as it was repelled by the field generated it would roll off Never even coming close to the crystal itself . This water was considered to have magical properties was collected and used . The Ark of the covenant as it is referred to by most people is really in simple terms a Battery . It occupied the "coffer " in the kings chamber and was maintained by priests the would use special suits of non conductive materials to prevent deadly shocks . The priests carried special staffs they had a hook on one end and an angled piece on the other end it was both a symbol of power and their tool of the trade . The hook you understand now . The angled end was used to remove the cover of the "ARK" it was placed in notches and when they lifted their staffs together they removed the lid for maintenance of the materials used to generate the necessary current . Now you have the basic components assembled you can put it together . First we have a structure made of SI02 Sandstone and marble weighing some 6,000,000 tons . Thats a lot of potential energy by its self ! Next we add a power source the ARK . It supplies the electrical energy that is transmitted through the Djed pillar to the Gold hands that hold the "Eye of osirus" Solar Orb or crystal ball which ever you prefer . So we now have a lot of electrical energy that is powering this Crystal remember that the phenomenon of repulsion of the water and metal was using a crystal that was NOT CHARGED !with hundreds of volts of energy . the crystal is now emitting many orders of magnitude more than when not charged . The effect is transferred by means of the metallic spire the rod directly above the crystal down the rails which serves as a means to spread the unique energy field to the whole Pyramid .!!! Now the whole structure is beginning to resonate with this energy . Remember the whole pyramid is basically a huge chunk of Quartz . We have now created a field that reaches the very Ionosphere of the Earth ! This is where it gets interesting . What we have created is another pole on the earth . The magnetosphere catches if you will plasma emitted from the Sun . Plasma is a conductor of electricity . On the Earth plasma usually does not occur naturally except in the form of lightning bolts and Aurora at the North pole which is negative polarity . heres an illustration of the fields were dealing with . http://www.oulu.fi/~spaceweb/textbook/magnetosphere.html So we have created this Field thats interacting with the magnetosphere this allows for plasma to flow as it would at the N. Pole .This provides a conduit for the Electrical energy .Think about this if an average lightning strike could power a city the size of New York for 3 days. What could you power with a controlled flow like a continuous lightning strike 24 hrs a day ? The World ! An interesting effect too is the temporal and spatial effect of plasma which I don´t understand at all but what it does is . Inside the Pyramid in the area of the Queens chamber an opening occurs in time/space allowing the Initiated to experience God and travel to other worlds who have opened their "Stargates" . Think about it like this outside time/space is a room it has many doors which have been opened by many peoples one may enter here and exit there . Another interesting effect of exposure to this dimension is that consciousness can experience a glimpse of God . And in doing so the Initiate can develop some God like powers himself . Like the ability to manipulate our Reality .
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-17-2004 16:18
Interesting the mentioning of pillars Djet cos somewhere else in this forum I'm saying those were probaly the kind of devices used to teletransport huge stones through magnetic avenues like Japanese bullet train system. Probably worked better when some catastrophes in the past allowed the Earth to have completely different conditions compared with what's going on currently.And this was not millions of years ago...mere thousands. Unfortunately Velikovsky confused Venus with Mercury. That's another issue, of course.
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-17-2004 18:41
okay oscar - you really did it this time. now how am i gonna get some sleep? you certainly add to the puzzle ...by the way, i really think we're going to see some interesting, and scarey, things soon. and then ...
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Catastrophe Member Posts: 1908 From: UK Registered: May 2002
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posted 06-18-2004 02:06
The secret in the bible (new testament) is the pesher technique which shows clearly that the 'miracles' were actually mundane happenings. 
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bluducky Member Posts: 1498 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-18-2004 03:15
Or, Cat, that they never happened at all.As Paul stated in, i think it was Corinthians, about the story of Abraham being an allegory. It is possible that all the rest too, are simply an example story. (which seems to fit Mystery teaching, and hence reality, quite well) OSCAR!!
I haven't been able to locate anything on the name of god, per se, in this book, as he seems far more interested in explaining the many Egyptian gods, and making mention of the fact that Genesis actually has many gods, and not one. So, the name of god, according to Bushby, has thus far eluded me. I have just decided to look through his earlier work, 'The Bible Fraud' in search of this info for you.... I'll keep you posted...
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-18-2004 09:46
oscar - just a couple of things ... what do you think about the bock saga, more to the point, the certain language connotations/interpretations that are being bandied about? i am curious as to the meaaning of "prds" for one. perhaps you may have noticed my preoccupation with insects, and how they may fit into the picture? any info on your end? about ricinulei - interesting species ... no eyes, no web, it is a hunter of arthropods. the single appendage that you noted as being present at the nazca lines drawings is a modified sexual organ. why it is depicted on one leg as opposed to both 3rd sets may just be an anomaly, or perhaps a clue - taking into account possible geometric relationships? the spider, though reported to be of the amazon, actually is more suited to dry, dessert-like conditions. why this particular species? and not an orb or other, who knows? this one does have a scorpion like quality also, it's palps are somewhat pinscher-like. well, enough on arachnids.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-18-2004 14:50
Cat-A-trophee: That "pesher" thing, is it something related to Barbara Thering's understanding about Essenes' interpretation? Blu... I read Tony Bushby mentions God's name issue in his book. So, perhaps you need a quick view of the book page by page to check that (just in case you wanna help me in this issue). Via Mars: Nazca design of Ricinulei spider is representing the reproductive organ although is not similar to that specie, suggesting the objective of the paradox, emphasizing the reproductive function. In the case of the Lord of Sipan, the Latino-Pharaoh in north of Peru found in Sipan tomb, fertility was important and associated to the Sun. Spiders made of gold were found, carrying the face of Lord of Sipan in the belly, which was the nucleus where eggs came from (fertility as well). Each face is surrounded by 9 oval semi-spheres. The bottom of the spiders do have the designs of 3 helicoidal FEATHERED SNAKES (like in Egypt and Mexico), representing -perhaps- the Solar wind. Each camera had 3 golden spheres. It was interesting each one of the spider-men had 8 legs and 2 things like antennas. The author Cotterell explains these are symbols of the sunspots in 187 years in his book The Tutankamon Prophecies. You realize, of course, insects have antennas but not the spiders (though some species do have a protuberance). Insects -on the other hand- do own 6 legs and not 8. Something else, the insects are constitued by 3 segments -head, torax and belly- while the spiders are linked to the head and chest to form the cephalotorax by a thin hip...something different from Sipan spiders. So we have a dicotomy of the 6s against the 8s related to astronomy.Yet astronomy is taken from real entities, I think. So, perhaps is related to something hybrid. I never forgot something Beauman wrote -I believe he was- about the term NEPHILIM in Hebrew related to NEMALAH which is something like an ant. It makes me think in the alien visits as we see in the films, something like giant insect-spiders. But I really don't know and probably the words are not even related. So, the Lord of Sipan was something "different",a hybrid creature. He represented not only fertility but metamorphosis since mummification practice and the use of bandages is like the eggs of the spider wrapped around silk web,.... and the eggs become spiders. That interpretation is probably right if we notice the golden spiders do have the sphere-eggs in each chamber in Lord of Sipan tomb.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-18-2004 14:53
I forgot to say, some investigators think Nazca Spider represents Orion.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-18-2004 15:04
About miracles. Beware. Paul's reference to Abraham illustration gotta be understood in the context. Abraham did in fact have a son Isaac when he and his wife were old. So there was something of a miracle there. Paul said it was an illustration. Example of what? Example of Messiah who was born by means of a miracle not because the duplication of chromosome X into XX ( a baby girl) but the insertion of the equivalent to chromosome Y to produce XY, a baby boy) and we could discuss about this even in Egyptian depiction of Horus nativity through Isis. But I don't wanna talk about it. That's other theme. And also because Isaac was to be offered by his father Abraham like Messiah's Father allowed the sacrifice of Messiah being the lamb to be slaughtered. Isaac sacrifice was changed for a lamb. The ones who think Messiah died old, in France or in India having kids with Mary Magdalene and creating a whole Mirovigian offspring of kings do believe more fairy tales than the accepting hundreds of documents of the Bible. By the way, I read appocrypha as well but even the experts admit those manuscripts have more litter than anything else and to find "gold" is tough task.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-18-2004 15:15
I'm always curious and I want to investigate everything, even little details. In the first post here in reference to Rainbow Serpent it's written this: "The ‘Book of God’, which was found by Hilkiah around 400BC, contained coloured illustrations or depictions and precisely described the Rainbow Serpent". I couldn't find reference to that book but I found the name Hilkiah. Prophet Jeremiah was son of certain Hilkia. This was in Josiah's 13th year as a king, when Ashurbanipal, Assyria's king, died. Jeremiah himself lived his last years in EGYPT!!!! I didn't remember or payed attention to that fact before. This was about pharaoh Necho's times. It's even more interesting the fact 2 Kings 22:1, 8, 11, 13 mentions a certain book that was lost and priest Hilkia found in the temple! It's supposed to be Deuteronomy. But was it or another? So, I don't have a Biblical dictionary in order to check if I'm confusing two different Hilkias. If it's the same individual, we're talking about the year 626 B.C. and not 400 B.C. as the book is saying unless that's another person. Check: www.bibleman.net/Lost_Books.htm
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-18-2004 16:17
Rainbow Serpent was worshipped in Polinesia and Australia too. Now you would like to take a look at these: http://members.aol.com/SprtRainbw/rsym_01.htm And specially this where you see a confirmation of what I'm saying admiting in Australia it was worshipped too and you'll see an image of scarab beetle Egyptian god Khepra (and other gods like Annubis, mummification, pyramid, etc) in Australia!!!!!! Good to remember archeologist Carter found BOOMERANGS in Tutankamon tomb. www.crystalinks.com/egyptaustralia.html
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-18-2004 16:54
Not enough? For the Mayas in the talons the Eagle held a round obsidian mirror, highly polished, eyes looking through a glass darkly. Beyond its smoky surface the mirror reflected a light between the worlds: The head of a Jaguar, its green eyes shining brightly, whose teeth became the talons of the Eagle - held the obsidian mirror in its open mouth. The Jaguar Serpent became the Rainbow Serpent in its last and final release of energetic power. The dark mirror of obsidian reflected clearly the smoky release of the human soul. The energies associated with shamanic power are Vortex energies. The upward spiral of the DNA is a pathway of intertwining strands of light filled with a power which the Mayans long ago knew as the “Rainbow Serpent”. The bright colors of the Serpent were reflected within the polished mirrors of obsidian used by the Mayans. The face of the Rainbow Serpent appeared before them in the form of a Jaguar. The secret of the Jaguar, black as night, held the mystery of the Rainbow Serpent. The Rainbow Jaguar was the Scorpion doorway to an essential transformation that allowed the apprentice to walk between the worlds. Death was the sign of profound inner transformation, and was not something to be feared. Those who could fearlessly cross between the worlds became the peaceful warriors of light who guard our world. Those who looked on the surface of the mirror would see their face reflected in the depths and beyond. Scorpio Rising is the power of inner transcendence. Scorpio is ruled by Pluto, the transformer, and Mars, the warrior. Also check: www.mayalords.org/incfldr/iris.html I have to tell you something personal. Years after my trip to Egypt, I was teaching to a couple of women. One of them interrupted the class and had a mediumic trans. She closed her eyes and started to talk. And you know what I asked her? I asked her about the cherubs likeness. She said to me "why do you ask what you already know?". She told me she saw me like a Maya priest wearing white robs and long hair, some gold sandals and white feathers. Immediately she went to her room and took a black obsidian piece like the head of an arrow she bought in Mexico. She told me "this belongs to you". I don't know if it's a trick or not, or if she wanted to impress me. But I'm saying this because only now, after checking this issue I'm understanding the obsidian black mirrors helped to reflect the snake-feline, like Ezekiel's cherub. I didn't know this. And that event took place at least 6 years ago! Of course, I already suspected the cherubs were not symbols and I personally enterviewed people who were not schizophrenic but saw them and I mentioned other people who have gone to places like Marcahuasi have also witnessed the spiritual realms. As I say, it seems there's a cosmic law that twists galaxies, DNA, Tesla Coil energies, space-time, circumvolutions of the brain, movement of the knee, etc. I believe most of the pyramids were used to make the stargate but there was one licit medium and the other was ilicit or ilegal. Cherubs took advantage of these laws to make sacrificies for their own pleasure, they mimic. That's why the path between shadow or light is difficult and God doesn't accept medium warm terms. Or you're hot or cold otherwise He will vomit you. The path of the shinning ones and the path of the children of darkness.
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-18-2004 18:43
too much to address now, but some fleetings ...ricinulie is scorpion-like, for what it's worth, but please note the analogy to your eggs and such forth and behavior of females with young, and description of the larvae ... strange, indeed. don't get me started on the six-leggers ... esp my personal favorite, the ant. builder extraordinaire', slavemaster, model for robotic/chaotic systems, and at times, pilot if you were to take a leap at not only nuptial flights, but gaze to their cousins - bees and wasps; they themselves masters of complex dances, (describing and/or giving coordinates in flight terms ...) social systems, and for you oscar, resurrection of the queen, ( a no less very complicated and unusual practice - involving royal jelly, and "heir to the throne" drama) and other things, too, too, numerous to go into presently. so, i forgot the construction of six-sided cells. yep, the same cavity based, and structural knowledge systems us puny humans have used in various ways, shapes, and forms since antiquity. do we borrow more from animals or insects? ... trivia question. ricinulie specimens, though tending to be on the rarer side generally, are found across the world. they have three sets of eyes placed in a pyramid shape ... so, how does an hourglass show up on the underside of a black widow? - another case for intelligent design? and a warning too? a far deeper warning than just the bite, i might add ... 2 pyramids, joined at the apex. nature tells all, if only we could see. know what i mean, vern?
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-18-2004 18:51
and a little more for oscar ...compare certain evolutionary concepts of humans ... how things just, spring up. think about flight and insects. go ahead folks ... think the same critical way you do about atlantis, and consider insects and flight. have we forgot what we have known all along? and why we were asking? the answers stare at us through the most unique optical systems ... the eyes of the insect. that's right, look em in the eye. hint. kirk out.
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-18-2004 19:05
so my peruvian friend, want to trip out some more? down on the mountain ...one of the moths and/or butterflies needed to complete the alphabet, the arabic numerals having already been established through laborious study and observations, was found in the himilayas several years ago. don't know if they had looked for examples of hebrew ... anyway, i mean to say, examples of visual advertising on the wings of these flying wonders, that just happen to display letters. i know, it's somewhat of a stretch, but "gold" isn't easy to find. so, maybe you're wondering about the giant moth of the himilayas? look into it ... who would think? remember arthur conan doyle? connection? sometimes i wonder. carry on ...
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-19-2004 06:40
2 Pyramids joined at the apex: http://www.flex.com/~johnboy/Sirius.htg/sirius.htm
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-19-2004 07:26
I was commenting some of these things with Egyptologist John Antony West and he replied to me today. He told me he doesn't have time to answer everyone sending messages to him and that to be honest with me as he considers me sincere as well, he had to say I'm wrong, that I don't have the proper knowedge of the secrets of ancient people. I answered to him that I do my homework and prefer to contact open minded people like him just to correct my path in case I'm wrong but the fact is he's not an specialist in Tesla Coil devices and indeed a violet light came out of the pyramid using that device. I told him about experiences with scientists (I mentioned each name)bending photons like DNA , etc., which he probably is unaware. I said he's specialist in Egypt but not in Maya or Inca cultures or others and that's important since he went diving with geologist Schoch and Hancock to Yonaguni islands in Japan to acknowledge other culture. In fact I just have sent another message saying this: "With all do respect, you're an Egyptologist. To understand the secrets of Egypt or Maya, China or whatever culture we need the assistance of anthropologists and other specialists as well. I try to do my homework. Everybody critized geologist Robert Schoch but not too many dare to ask opinions like the ones of Colin Reader and David Coxill or Edmond Meltzer about the sphinx or ask marine geologist Masaaki Kimura in the case of Yonaguni islands. So, if we need to discover the secrets of the ancient people we need anthropologist assistance as well. They know about the halucinogenic practices of the shamans. Regarding the Mayas: For the Mayas in the talons the Eagle held a round obsidian mirror, highly polished, eyes looking through a glass darkly. Beyond its smoky surface the mirror reflected a light between the worlds: The head of a Jaguar, its green eyes shining brightly, whose teeth became the talons of the Eagle - held the obsidian mirror in its open mouth. The Jaguar Serpent became the Rainbow Serpent in its last and final release of energetic power. The dark mirror of obsidian reflected clearly the smoky release of the human soul. The energies associated with shamanic power are Vortex energies. The upward spiral of the DNA is a pathway of intertwining strands of light filled with a power which the Mayans long ago knew as the “Rainbow Serpent”. The bright colors of the Serpent were reflected within the polished mirrors of obsidian used by the Mayans. The face of the Rainbow Serpent appeared before them in the form of a Jaguar. The secret of the Jaguar, black as night, held the mystery of the Rainbow Serpent. The Rainbow Jaguar was the Scorpion doorway to an essential transformation that allowed the apprentice to walk between the worlds. Death was the sign of profound inner transformation, and was not something to be feared. Those who could fearlessly cross between the worlds became the peaceful warriors of light who guard our world. Those who looked on the surface of the mirror would see their face reflected in the depths and beyond.Of course, this is seen actually because of the use of substances acting like a key-lock relation between chemical similar structure with serotonine, etc. So, I wonder myself if you have indeed -as Egyptologist- introduced yourself inside the belly of the temples filled with hieroglyphs in complete darkness while using blue lilly or opium or chewing coca leaves (as the Egyptian mummies do have in their bellies and they were not modern droppings) or did you consider the experience unnecessary? Be honest! If you don't, I tell exactly what MAY happen under the right circumstances, like the use of incense, umphallos, etc, you may experience a vision and probably the drawings will become alive just like Moses' nightmare scene in the animated movie Prince of Egypt. Do you still think "I'm chasing rainbows" as you wrote to me with good wit? I tell you, some things need to be experienced in the proper places and perhaps after those experiences we will accept Jung was closer to truth than Freud and perhaps the idea of archetypes will change. Please read this: www.jornalinfinito.com.br/series.asp?cod=81 www.jornalinfinito.com.br/series.asp?cod=80 www.peyote.com www.umsl.edu/~rkeel/180/hallucin.html I say again, we're messing around with energies here. China has not been too much influenced in their ancient ideograms by Judaism or Christianism. Yet we see the story of the tempter snake deceiving the woman by means of the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE which automatically closed the access to the second tree, the tree of everlasting life. www.creationism.org/csshs/v06n2p04.htm www.creationism.org/chinese2.jpg www.creationism.org/csshs/v07n4p24.htm This was my last post. Thanks again." That was my message to Egyptologist Antony West. Who knows, maybe he will answer again...or perhaps not!
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-19-2004 07:36
well, what do you know? interesting indeed.again, i must refer you to the "sacrament of the last supper" by dali, for he was a master of more than one discipline, and most likely what we would term, an initiate? the company you keep ... so, about those pesky insects. if one had nothing other than nature to guide, surely the way to truth will be found ... but alas, the inevitable brutality of the "way", is mirrored. and so shall we become lost in the mirrors, yet found again in another dimension. confusing, no? perhaps cubensis and a day's worth of time will enlighten? ... about an hour later, look into a mirror. stare into your pupils ... and the universe will unfold. the trick is making it back in one piece, and then reassimilating back into our borg culture - and keeping a straight face! don't be surprised later, when looking into others' eyes, at what you may see or feel - for it may be reality. as you have entered the window of your own soul, so too can you now enter that of others. like a boy walking around the neighborhood with a microwave blaster toy, this knowledge can be dangerous.
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bluducky Member Posts: 1498 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-19-2004 15:35
Oscar.I've not had much luck with the name or meaning of God. I've only found Egypt's god's. (yes, I did go through the book page by page. do you at least remember if the reference is halfway through the book, or 3 quarters etc? The reference could well have been not an explanation, but merely a passing mention, or an implication... a chapter reference would be great... (It's like trying to find an obscure verse in the bible without an index or concordance. no verse divisions- nothing...)) I know it tells of other names, such as 'Sol-om-on', and 'Is-ra-el', but, no God--- yet... But, being the nice guy I am, i'll keep looking. (it doesn't hurt with a book like this, you always learn something new...) On the 'Book of God' -- Another name for it is the 'Book of O' found by Hilkiah in about 400BC, and thought to be ancient even then. An excerpt from the 'Book of God'(O) -- "Learn deeply of the mind and it's mystery, for therein lies the true secret of immortality."
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-19-2004 18:41
if only the better part of your last sentence was in hebrew, and could fit on a bumper sticker ...a language/alphabet that i would take the time to study? it would be stargate, er, i mean hebrew. ahem, english notwithstanding. isn't it funny how it looks like mini stonehenge block arrangements? or even, gasp, programming language? sorry, do carry on ...
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Quark N Doodle Member Posts: 180 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-19-2004 20:02
quote: Quote from Bluducky: Since the pyramid form was the only method to generate (or create) the Rainbow Serpent, the serpent became the symbolic form of initiates.The Book of the Dead said initiates into the Egyptian Mysteries entered ‘a serpent’ in which they ‘shed their skin’ and emerged ‘in the form of a resurrected RA, bright and shiny’. That is the fundamental nature of the initiatory process…”
Hi Ducky, I just got reminded that I got to see a rainbow snake on one of my, what I have called the "time-warp-movie-dreams." It was a dream into the time of the dinosaurs. The snake was really big, but colored just like a rainbow. Pastel colors just like a rainbow has. And it's neck would flare out like the cobra does. To make it look really wide. It was a really beautiful snake. I'm not contradicting your post in any way. I thought it was very interesting and relevant. but it seems like too many things keep repeating and showing up throughout history, the same -- but separate,too. Because the snake I was shown was definitely in the time of the dinosaurs.
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-19-2004 20:29
quark, oscar - speaking of slithering serpents, perhaps you may have had the pleasure of running across certain specimans? a quickie ... eastern hognose snakes, king snakes, n. american. 1st is interesting - plays dead, and yet has psuedo cobra hood and sometimes a discernable pur. look to india and/or asian cobras for other similar markings ... interesting mating habits, co-exists/interplay w/ black snakes, shared habitat, bla-bla-bla ... for that matter, amphibians can have their say. (and i will go there next - after surviving current topic)btw, i have a neat little toad-sphinx. you could almost say two of them, if you include my favorite sodium dispenser (salt shaker)
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Anteres New Member Posts: 1 From: Stonington,Maine, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 06-20-2004 06:31
Greetings all new kid on the block so to speak and I find the subject facinating lots of info to to grasp and understand I think that is what this old brain was needing thank you, will post more when I have had a little time to ruminate . Again, thank you and Namaste
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-20-2004 16:19
Physicists acknowledge the energy to twist space-time is almost imposible even for aliens. But I say the space-time do have their own vortex or holes and ancients "surf" on the rings of those stargates. Now we can teletransport photonos 1 meter distance. Yet, we have to destroy it. So, Kirk should've said "FAX me up, Scotty" rather than "beam me up". We would have to scann even the smallest bit of information, be destroyed and allowed a COPY to be teletransported. Who would like to do that? Even to achieve that, the information accumulated in all books ever written is calculated in 1 followed by 12 zeros, a million million of kilobytes of space to be filed. That astonishing amount of space is just the 10th part of a millonesimal part of a billonesimal part of space needed to file a human being. To complicate more, in the case of man, we need the original atoms that need to be re-assembled at the end, otherwise in each teletransportation would be produced another copy of the traveller. The ancient method using the stone-pyramids in the right time, the right day and hour, the correct months or alignment of planets, equinoxes or solstices, the proper use of copper, ark of the covenant, gold white powder, umphallos, Udjet pillars, incense, etc, would probably do it better. The transformation of the human being was needed otherwise the result would be disastrous...as Philadelphia/Montauk/Rainbow experience.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-20-2004 16:23
And of course, the pyramids or stone stargates must've been built in specific parts of the magnetic world rid. The Great Pyramid itself was built in the center of the spinning planet.
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-20-2004 18:49
center of the earth? with that floating pen, could you somewhat pinpoint that on a conventional map or globe? kirk out.
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bluducky Member Posts: 1498 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-20-2004 20:10
well 'Kirk' (why do you keep calling yourself kirk?), to find the centre, you need to find the most landmass both longitudinally, and latitudally. (sorry if I just invented some new words)Get a piece of string and a globe of the Earth, and measure each meridian point, to see which has more land area. If you measure through the GP, you will see that that meridian has the most land in both directions, up/down AND around, thus, is the centre. (if you wish to try to disprove this, remember to account for bodies of water) Oscar, again, i've searched 'the book', and found no explanation on God's name. I DID find a mention of 'Elio' being the singular of 'Elohim', and bible dictionaries etc cannot comprehend the meaning of the term 'Elohim', for it would contradict their claims of monotheism. (P. 58-59) Write a book Oscar, i think it'll be worth it. (you already have tons of references, after all...)
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Quark N Doodle Member Posts: 180 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-20-2004 20:25
Captain Kirk: "Fax me up Scotty."Scotty: "Aye, Captain. Where are you?" Captain Kirk: "Well, you've got the machine. When you find out where I am, I'll be there." Spock: "Sheesh. The needs of one...."
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bluducky Member Posts: 1498 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-21-2004 02:06
Well, anyway, Captain Piccard is better, he just seems like more fun to me...
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via mars 2 Member Posts: 1638 From: arlington, va. Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-21-2004 06:05
correct me if i'm wrong, please, but the center of the earth is the center of the earth. a point central to land mass, as equated above, is not the center of the earth, but the center of your attention regarding earth.
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oscar Member Posts: 2342 From: belo horizonte, brazil Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 06-21-2004 10:22
I should've said planisphere rather than sphere. http://greatpyramid.org/aip/gr-pyr1.htm www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm
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