You said that if you hold God in the mirror you get DOG. After the creation of man he was no longer just labeled GOD, he became "LORD GOD". If you go to Genesis chp.1, you will notice that the scriptures just say GOD, but in Chp.2 "The creation of man" it starts to say "Lord God". This is because there were many gods already cast out there, but he couldn't become LORD until he made us because we have worship and angels are only there to praise(those are two different things). An angel has no worship because they don,t know what it is to be human having to die or go through trial and error. They have no WILL, they can't reason. They are purely good or purely evil.

Genes-is 1:27 says "So God created man in his own image, the image of God created he him, male and female created he them (meaning MAN-KIND). We are now MAN-KIND because Lucifer and his brothren BREEDED with the "Daughters of Men". This could be like the test-tube methods Sumerian Tablets talked of. I believe in Evolution because I think that they breeded using animals first. What do you think the Yeti(bigfoot is a product of, or the dinosaurs? Aren't they called Giants? Genesis 6:4 says "there were giants in the earth in those days(before the flood) and after that(after the flood), when the Sons of God came unto the daughters of men and bore children to them. Goliath was a giant and there are alot of people these days being born with that alien Gene-tics today. Genes-is is talking about genes. Break down the names of the books of the bible and you will unlock alot of truths. EXAMPLE- Leviticus Levi= Law: The Laws of Moses did not come until the book of Leviticus. LEVIATHAN Levi=Law Athan=sin
Exodus= The "exit" or leaving of the Hebrews.

Yeshua was Amen’s son, Paul. And it was HIS mother who was the Virgen Mary, but please, don’t pin that role on me. (I would be very uncomfortable with all that worship anyway.)Yeshua was Amen’s son from another world. And I am Amen’s daughter from the Earth. So in a way, Yeshua and I are half sister/brother, but the bloodlines come from completely different places. Amen is from the Big Dipper region of space, which is where I go (spiritually) to go get living water, (it’s a gusher too!) and Yeshua’s world is the Little Dipper of Space. But I’ve pretty much been right here on Earth all along, because this is my homeworld.

I hope you followed all of that. It’s just perfectly clear to me.

Mags

You stated:

<< Now Paul, don’t you and your group go pinning any more jobs on me, than I’ve already got. I already have quite enough to do, thank you very much. >>

I am certain that any service one performs, especially those that are dangerous and painful, are completely voluntary. The Society Of Light and SOL Mystics don’t go around pinning jobs on anyone.

<< Don’t you think, after all this time, I ought’a know who I am by now? I’m not the Mother of Yeshua! Geez Paul, there were seven Mary’s in the New Testament. I was Yeshua’s girl. Remember? >>

People spend their entire lives trying to find out who they are and what they should do. Many transition before finding themselves in any real capacity.

Like any psychic medium, I simply strive to relay the information from Spirit as objectively and as clearly as possible. In the past, The Society Of Light has been quite accurate on a number of issues, some of which were of a personal nature. If they were not, I would not be so bold as to convey a controversial message such as the one that I gave to you.

<< Yeshua was Amen’s son, Paul. And it was HIS mother who was the Virgin Mary, but please, don’t pin that role on me. >>

SOL Mystics do not espouse that the mother of the Angel Prophet, Jesus, was conceived through a virgin birth. So to say that you were that Mary is much more difficult for you to take than it is for us to accept.

Did you ever read the teachings of the discarnate Speaker called Seth? He spoke through the late Jane Roberts back in the 1970s.

Seth espoused that the whole story of Jesus was distorted in a number of ways. For example, he says that Judas did not betray Jesus at all, but quite the opposite: Judas tried to save Jesus from the Roman authorities.

Also according to Seth, Jesus was discreetly whisked away out of danger and a man was chosen and heavily drugged to die in Jesus’ place.

Frankly, this makes a great deal of sense to me. If I were the devotee or disciple of someone that I thought was very holy, the last thing in the world that I would do is hand him or her over to the police for incarceration and possible execution!

Seth explains that this is why after Jesus “arose from the dead,” he told his disciples not to touch his body. Jesus had the Gift of Stigmata (as have many Christians since his day) and this only helped provide confirmation to his disciples that he indeed came back from the dead.

Seth espouses that Jesus’ crucifixion was a psychic event, not an actual physical event.

Crucifixion was a common form of Roman execution and many died that way. For example, the hundreds of slaves who fought under Spartacus in a revolt against the Roman Empire were all crucified along the street in order to set an example to the public.

Next we have the uncovering of documentation in India that records Jesus visiting before and especially after the purported crucifixion. The name of the book is called “Jesus Lived In India” and the author’s name is Holger Kersten.

So it isn’t that I don’t believe that you are sincere in what you believe. I think that you are very sincere.

At any rate, it was an interesting message that was given by The Society Of Light.

Thank you for your compliments on my writing. But your making me blush. Its credit should really go to you guys - language is my only tool in which my colleagues are Advanced Mystics. In truth, part of me wishes to develop such powers within myself, but again I shall remain small. I have not truly learned enough humility to wield such forces with true justice (nor will I, I sometimes think).

Of course I have read the Seth Speaks books. I read them when they first came out in the 70’s, probably at a time when you were too young to even realize those books had been written, since, as I understand it, you are only 41. If the Multi-dimensional nature of the Universe, as Seth presented it is true, (and I believe Seth spoke a very valid truth) then Christ expresses itself through the reality of twelve different tribes. I am not calling the discarnate entity you call Valarian a liar. She too is probably fully expressing the Magdalene entity as it is expressed and known through her tribe, and truly, I have no problem with that. I never have had a problem with that. It is only given to me to express Christ as it is seen through the tribe of Benjamin. I am only the representative Magdalene from the tribe of Benjamin, which is only one of twelve tribes. I am certainly not the one calling Valarian a liar, because I believe with all my heart and soul that she has just as much right to express the spirit of Magdalene as it comes through her tribe, as I have the right to express it as it comes through my tribe. I am not the one calling Valarian a liar, nor saying she has no right to exist as she is because she expresses herself through discarnate dimensions. As a matter of fact, it seems that she is calling me a liar, and telling me that I have no right to exist because I express myself through incarnate dimensions. There are twelve tribal gestalts here Paul. Each tribe has their own representatives of Christ consciousness. If those representatives actually abide within the concepts of the Golden Rule, I frankly have no problem with any of them.

with the ANKH, the cross of the "resurrection and ascension", and the "SIGN of the cross", AQUARIUS, the 'SIGN of the BAPTIZER", the "church" of the FALSE IMAGE will be conquered. this is the "will" of "GOD", AMEN. the CIRCLE(of LIGHT), the CIRCLE(of the SUN of god, AMEN) must and will be UN-BROKEN, ON EARTH. don't be left behind. the "new heaven" is coming over the horizon, his STAR is shining in the EAST...
and there will be a "new earth" to REFLECT the "new heaven", and the "old heaven"" and the "old earth" will pass away...

celebrate the "PASS OVER". AS ABOVE, SO BELOW. AMEN

... with this SIGN thou shalt conquer...
OUT OF EGYPT HE COMES...
and the "heavenly kingdom" of "GOD", AMEN, will be "RE" established ON EARTH.

EMBRACE THE "NEW LIGHT" THAT COMES "OUT OF EGYPT", HE IS HERE. I AM HE. I AM THE "MAN BEARING WATER", "RE" incarnated, "RE" borne, I AM THE "BAPTIZER", made flesh, made man, his "PERSONIFICATION". I AM "THE DIVINE" ONE, AMEN.

If you truly examined the messages of the discarnate speaker, Seth, you would know that he espoused that Jesus of Nazareth never actually died on the cross (that a man was chosen, heavily drugged and died in his place); that Judas actually tried to save Jesus' life, not betray it (as the story was completely turned around); and that Jesus is not going to incarnate again.

It's funny how you completely missed these key points in your analysis of Seth's teachings. Perhaps you simply chose to ignore them as they don't fit within your paradigm of understanding.

CM63:

You are certainly welcome for the websites and I am glad that you pursue Radiance. Visualizing the green is good as it is the color of soul growth. But there are more advanced forms of Radiance that are explained on our site that you can utilize when you feel the need to pursue it.

Paul Richard
TheSocietyOfLight.com

Enlightenment through the pursuit of knowledge is a fundamental idea that is found within Gnosticism and in technologically oriented cultures like the Zetan Empire. The other camp generally believes that “enlightenment” comes from service to others, meditation, living by The Golden Rule, etc.

It really depends on how one defines “enlightenment.”

I think it would be best to avoid the study of superstitious cultures, as one will not really learn anything of metaphysical or spiritual importance.

<< If there is warfare among the spiritual world and there are people here trying to make the world a better place who is more spiritual? >>

There are conflicts in the Spirit just as there are conflicts in the flesh. One way of looking at it is to determine whether the conflict entails Service to Self or Service to Others. The former represents an evil path; the latter represents a spiritual path.

One can be involved in warfare and still be on a spiritual path. It all depends on the intentions and reasons behind the warfare. For example, defending innocents from evil is a form of warfare, but it also constitutes Service to Others.

<< Every one will go through hard times in one way or another but EVIL does not have to exist. >>

I agree with that.

<< I read on zeta talk that these aliens have a plan for us. An up come disaster to destroy most of the world. It is their plan not ours. What right do they have to play with our lives for so called spiritual lessons what they plan. What about our own plans don't we have a right? Sorry but I don't feel I'm here to be sacrificed for no spiritual plan someone so chooses for me. Why don't they come down here and be the ones that get destroyed. Obviously they didn't chose to come here and have their lives toyed with and destroyed for their purpose. I think maybe they might not know what it is to love and want and feel the emotions we do. >>

The Zetan Empire is a quintessential example of a large group of souls in Service to Self. Zetans are just as spiritually indifferent as the Nazis of WWII were, but much more formidable technologically. As with all empires, they too will fall eventually, as all evil destroys itself in the long run. Zetans embrace intellectual genius, but they are very shallow emotionally. That is why they have difficulty understanding emotions and spirituality.

<< I read that some people can produce their own drugs (it’s not in physical a form) and put them in their aura and take away pain and other things. >>

That sounds more like a Gift of Healing than the actual creation of physical drugs.

So as intelligence requires a thinking process the line, "I think therefore I am" might make people think a little more.

The real question is, is thought a process purely of the brain or of the "soul" or is the thought process itself the soul?

Together with the Sacred Heart and the principle of LOVE plus thought we arrive at another saying, " I love you heart and soul" Or "I think of you all the time".

So LOVE is also a thinking process. It is also an entire-body process.

Everything in this Universe is made of energy indeed it was Created from the Energy of The Nooun Sea, also known to the Egyptians, AND to Science, (see entropy) for it is well known that energy cannot be destroyed by the hand of man. The Universe eventually dissipates its energy back to the Nooun Sea as the energy levels level out again and entropy falls to zero.

So the conclusion is that The Almighty is Pure Energy and Pure Love and is able to exist without Creation and that He had to be here BEFORE. Nothing can get hotter by iself. This is a FUNDAMENTAL law.

For there to be a Heaven upon Earth as it is a part of the same Energy that forms the Nooun, from whence it came and was Created, there needs to be LOVE, not hatred. Love thy Neighbour as a Brother or as a Sister. Love Thy spouse as thyself for He or She is your "other half" as represented by The Sphinx and the Shu-Tefnut, Male-Female combination.

So as ALL is energy then the obvious conclusion is that GOD and The Angels are composed of energy too.

Pure Energy.

Human beings are mortal. God is Immortal.

Interesting .......

So as intelligence requires a thinking process the line, "I think therefore I am" might make people think a little more.

The real question is, is thought a process purely of the brain or of the "soul" or is the thought process itself the soul?

Together with the Sacred Heart and the principle of LOVE plus thought we arrive at another saying, " I love you heart and soul" Or "I think of you all the time".

So LOVE is also a thinking process. It is also an entire-body process.

Everything in this Universe is made of energy indeed it was Created from the Energy of The Nooun Sea, also known to the Egyptians, AND to Science, (see entropy) for it is well known that energy cannot be destroyed by the hand of man. The Universe eventually dissipates its energy back to the Nooun Sea as the energy levels level out again and entropy falls to zero.

So the conclusion is that The Almighty is Pure Energy and Pure Love and is able to exist without Creation and that He had to be here BEFORE. Nothing can get hotter by iself. This is a FUNDAMENTAL law.

For there to be a Heaven upon Earth as it is a part of the same Energy that forms the Nooun, from whence it came and was Created, there needs to be LOVE, not hatred. Love thy Neighbour as a Brother or as a Sister. Love Thy spouse as thyself for He or She is your "other half" as represented by The Sphinx and the Shu-Tefnut, Male-Female combination.

So as ALL is energy then the obvious conclusion is that GOD and The Angels are composed of energy too.

Pure Energy.

Human beings are mortal. God is Immortal.

Interesting .......

~~So LOVE is also a thinking process. It is also an entire-body process.~~

The act of truly loving has little to do with thought, in my opinion. I percieve feeling emotion different from logical thinking. You can't logically deduce love, so it would seem that arguement alone would dictate it has little to do with thought, per se.
When you feel the emotion of love it times interferes with clear thought. At times it overrides other, perhaps more selfish, thoughts. I feel you can easily divide love as humans know it into several different forms. True love is a purely unselfish giving emotion. Somewhere along the line however we humans have gotten a little confused and now many equate love to need. Love in its best form gives you strength and confidence. Need weakens an individual's ability to manifest the more selfless emotions, and leads to greed, lust and jealousy.

~~So the conclusion is that The Almighty is Pure Energy and Pure Love and is able to exist without Creation ~~

This I agree with, if you percieve Creation as the manifestation of the physical universe. I will take that one step further and say that The Creator's ability to feel Purified Love and Compassion led to his ability to manifest the physical universe. Without that, ALL THAT IS would never have come about.

~~So as ALL is energy then the obvious conclusion is that GOD and The Angels are composed of energy too.~~

I agree with this as well. All souls in disincarnate form are describable as pure energy - existence and life without flesh.

God, however, is not immortal. That which you call the Nooun Sea is what I call The God Force. THAT is infinite and therefore immortal. The Creator manifested himself from that - so since he had a beginning he also can concievably have an end, and cannot be considered immortal. In fact, the way we see it was in this time continuum, he destroyed himself to create the trillions of souls, of which we are all one of. He still exists if you disregard Time, but only under very special conditions will The Original Creator be brought forward into this time. For now, he does not exist here. WE are what's left of him.

CM63-

I agree there are many forces within the Astral plane aligned against the Path of Light and those who follow the Golden Rule (do unto others that which you would have done unto yourself). This is mirrored in the physical life - the angels who act so evilly wish only to gain power and are willing to sacrifice their spiritual growth to do this.
However, the ability to defend yourself is within you. It is within us all. You must have faith in yourself. Indeed, the thought that someone else must protect you (that you can't do it yourself) is a way that the negative forces of the universe gain further access to you. They play your own will against you. If you allow yourself to believe they have the power against you, it will only amplify their own assaults and the effectiveness of them. Indeed they have apparently done a very effective job of convincing you of your vulnerability, as they did me for so long.
I realize this may be a bit difficult to swallow, as you have been persecuted for quite some time. I also suffered the effects of the evil forces in the universe for many years. Only lately have I gained enough faith in myself to repel the negativity. The only comfort I have to offer you is that any being that assaults you so is sowing the seeds of its own destruction, as the only way to survive outside the flesh is to act according to the Golden Rule - any spirit that deliberatly breaks this ultimately loses itself and all its energy to the Darkness of nonexistence. So they are literally killing themselves hurting you. As long as you are a force for Good, you will have a place in the Astral Plane after you pass out of this physical life.
And not to insult you, but any strange discharge you have would and should smell like death - as it is most likely dead tissue. Your previous healthy menstrual discharge was laced with living blood (and even that did not smell pretty if your like any woman I've ever known). After menopause this would no longer be the case. Menopause also creates a vast chemical alteration within your body causing a huge array of physical and emotional openings for said negative energies to prey upon you.
In the end, realize much of the information you find on the web is riddled with inaccuracies. Sometimes even downright lies designed to make you follow certain paths giving certain beings more power than they have a right to.
If you meditate sincerely within yourself and ask for guidance it will be given. It will always remain up to you to decide truth from fiction.

This is from "Masonic Beliefs and Practices" at http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/masons/mrituals.html :

"By this time the sun had attained its greatest altitude, and shining in al its splendor, darted its rays immediately into the aperture, which enabled me to distinguish those objects I had before but imperfectly discovered. In the center of the vault I saw a pedestal of pure virgin marble, with certain mystic characters engraven thereon, and a veil covering the upper face of the altar. Approaching with reverential awe, I lifted the veil, and beheld what I humbly supposed to be the sacred word itself."
- Masonic ritual quoted in Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

The meaning of the sacred word is revealed later in the ceremony. Making a "living arch", three masons grasp each other's left wrist at waist level and their right wrist over their heads. They then intone:

"As we three did agree,
In peace, love, and unity,
The Sacred Word to keep,
So we three do agree,
In peace, love, and unity,
The sacred Word to search;
Until we three,
Or three such as we, shall agree
To close this Royal Arch."

"They then balance three times three, bringing the right hand with some violence down upon the left. The right hands are then raised above their heads, and the words, Jah-buh-lun, Jeho-vah, G-o-d, are given at low breath, each companion pronouncing the syllables or letters alternately..."
- Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor or Guide to the Three Symbolic Degrees of the Ancient York Rite
"In the ritual of exaltation, the name of the great Architect of the Universe is revealed as JAH-BUL-ON....Each syllable of the 'ineffable name' represents one personality of this Trinity:
JAH = Jahweh, the God of the Hebrews
BUL = Ba'al, the ancient Canaanite fertility god associated with 'licentious rites of imitative magic'
ON = Osiris, the Ancient Egyptian god of the underworld"

"...During the years between 1723 and 1813 the invocation of the name of Christ in the endings of prayers gradually died out. In masonic quotations of scripture the name of Christ came very pointedly to be deleted from the text."
"It is perhaps because the Freemasonic God, as revealed to Royal Arch Masons, is so far from being 'that Religion to which all men agree' that it was determined that Holy Royal Arch workings should not be conducted in Lodges but separately in 'Chapters' under the control of a Grand Chapter and not of Grand Lodge."
- Stephen Knight, The Brotherhood

Knight's analysis is only partly correct and his conclusion is almost certainly off the mark.

"...The assumption that Jahbulon means Jehovah [Yahweh], Ba'al, and Osiris is itself pure conjecture. No one knows for certain what it means, or even how the name was originally pronounced before it underwent changes from centuries of strictly verbal communication."
- John J. Robinson, Born in Blood

In the initiation ceremony, the candidate is told:

"It is a compound word and its combinations form the word Jah-Bul-On. Jah the first part, is the Chaldean [Sumerian] name of God and signifies his essence and majesty incomprehensible; it is also a Hebrew word signifying 'I am' and 'shall be', thereby expressing the actual, future and eternal existence of the Most High. Bul is an Assyrian word, signifying Lord or Powerful, it is itself a compound word signifying in or on; and Bul signifying Heaven on High, therefore this word means Lord in Heaven or on High. On is an Egyptian word, signifying Father of All, and is also a Hebrew word implying strength or power, and expressive of the omnipotence of the Father of all. All the significations of these words may, therefore, be thus collected: - I am and shall be; Lord in Heaven; Father of all."
- Masonic ritual quoted in Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

"The first part, 'Jah', is the Hebrew word for their god, very probably with a Sumerian connection. It can be seen in this form in the name of the prophet Elijah, which is actually Eli-jah, meaning 'Yahweh is my god' (El being the ancient word for a god)."
- Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

"Simply, Ba'al is a Hebrew word that means lord or master. Numerous deities were addressed by that title in the Middle East, but their names have not come down to us." It is an honorific title "that is still used by the Jewish faith. For example, one who can work miracles in the name of God is known as a Ba'al shem, the lord (or master) of the Name."
- John J. Robinson, Born in Blood

On is also the Hebrew word for "one". Jah-Baal-On could thus be interpreted to mean "Yaweh, the one Lord over all" which would be very much in keeping with the Christian nature of the Royal Arch rites. Most students of Masonic lore, however, prefer to place the origin of On in ancient Egypt.

"1. JAH. This name of God is found in the 68th Psalm, v. 4. [Yahweh]
2. BAAL or BEL. This word signifies a lord, master, or possessor, and hence it was applied by many of the nations of the East to denote the Lord of all things, and the Master of the world.
3. ON. This was the name by which JEHOVAH was worshipped among the Egyptians."
- Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor or Guide to the Three Symbolic Degrees of the Ancient York Rite

"During dynastic Egypt Ra's [the god of the sun during dynastic Egypt] cult center was Annu (Hebrew 'On', Greek 'Heliopolis', modern-day 'Cairo')."
- Shawn C. Knight,"Egyptian Mythology FAQ"

"ON is but another name for the [Egyptian] god Amen...and...in Revelation 1:8, in the original, inspired text of this verse, the Greek word Christ used was 'On' - the 'existing one'."
- Brad Steiger, Worlds Before Our Own

"My feeling is that 'Jah-Baal-On' was simply the names of the three great gods, of the Jews, the Canaanites and the Egyptians , all of whom were referred to as the 'Most High'."
- Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

I have joined this forum because of you for I needed to thank you.

You see, I happened upon one of your postings in this thread and what you said expanded the possibilities in my mind. I had one of those lightning flashes of illumination and went on a feverish search for validation. I found it. I do not fully understand everything involved in the process, but a Virgin Birth is possible. The Bible did not lie and this is the Truth that has been withheld from the entire world. It cannot have happened unless it was purposefully done. Because of this we all have been worshipping the wrong god for he truly deceiveth the whole world.

I have been posting on another forum called Godlike Productions (www.godlikeproductions.com) under this same name, “Anonymer Feigling”. I started a post about 9/11 and the hidden motivations behind it. Through the following of Truth I’ve come across this secret. I see you ridicule the idea, but the Virgin birth is the Truth. And you held the key. Jesus is also a Truth. His name has been bastardized and we have been worshipping the wrong God. But that is another story for another day. I will now post what I have already posted at Godlike Productions. If you do a search on that forum for “AZAZEL”, you may view the entire thread. I warn you, it’s a long one - even longer than this reply.

Thank you again, dear lady.

III. THE VIRGIN BIRTH: EXPLAINING THE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBILITY

It is at this point I will attempt to explain the impossible. That which has been ridiculed and been a source of contention to disprove that Jesus Christ existed and that the stories of the Bible are fantasy. I do not fully understand the process, but I now know it can be done. It is the Holiest of the Holies in terms of creating life for, if done correcting, the child that is created is immortal. It is this secret that has been purposefully hidden. Tucked away from those that could use this to create paradise. But Thy Will Be Done!

This processs I believe will happen again. It may have happened already. I don’t know. I will try to explain that which I don’t fully understand to the extent of my ability. Just stick with me because I need to explain this just the right way for everyone to understand.

A couple of days ago, I had first run across this link. It was an article regarding Mary and Elizabeth and their similarities in becoming pregnant with child. Mary was, as well all know, said to be a virgin. Elizabeth was married, but barren. They both had help from the Holy Spirit in conceiving. Here is what is said of Mary:

“In the Holy Qur'an, not only is Mary held out to be a virgin, but so was her mother. This would incline one to believe that in its original form, the Gospel may well have espoused the idea that Jesus' ancestral line was through the priesthood, and that he was a child of the priesthood! There would appear to be no other reason for this doctrine.

It is this idea, that Mary’s mother was also a virgin that was taught by Catholics as the “Immaculate Conception”. I remember writing that down at one point and BJ quite rightly confronting me and asking where in the Bible this information was written? Of course, it isn’t. Bells went off then that something was wrong. While I “felt” it to be true, upon what source was the Church of Rome relying? Now it couldn’t have been the Qu’an because the Dead Sea Scrolls are fairly recent and, as far as I know, the Church of Rome has ALWAYS taught this. So what did they know and when did they know it? Even at that point I knew something was covered up because the back-up and validation for what they were saying was never made public. Now let us return to Mary and Elizabeth. Here is something about Elizabeth:

“According to tradition, Mary is a fresh, young woman who is under the guardianship of Zachariah. Elizabeth is obviously far beyond the age of child bearing.
"... she hath also conceived a son in her old age."
"And they had no child because that Elizabeth was barren; and they both were well stricken in years."

The article then said something that piqued my curiousity:

“The crux of the matter. Mary, being a blood relative of Elizabeth, would also have been descended from the high priesthood, a daughter of the priesthood of Aaron. As such she would never have been permitted to marry anyone other than a priest! And as such, offers the perfect reason for her virginity to be so important to the Gospel stories and that of The holy Qur'an. No high priest was permitted to marry anyone other than a woman descended of the priesthood, and she had to be a virgin!
The Letter To The Hebrews, speaks to this same subject. It is almost as though the writer knew of some ancient tradition concerning Jesus and his family, but now lacked the substance to prove his theory. Unable to pursue that avenue, he refers to Jesus' priesthood as coming, not from men, but from God.”

I want to repeat a certain phrase because it in large part triggered something in me:

“It is almost as though the writer knew of some ancient tradition concerning Jesus and his family, but now lacked the substance to prove his theory. Unable to pursue that avenue, he refers to Jesus' priesthood as coming, not from men, but from God.”

I read it and thought, “What does that mean? What ancient tradition concerning Jesus and his family? Being a virgin? How the heck did his family get to be his family if this is true?” We all know the virgin in the swimming pool theoretically being able to get pregnant by swimming a few laps, but did they have communal pools back then? And did that mean Jesus’ families swam a few laps before breakfast? I doubted it so it must mean something else. But what?

I read on.
“The Interpreter's Bible is insistent that the Gospel writers never intended for anything more to be understood other than the fact that Mary bore Jesus through a natural father whose name is, Joseph. 'of whom', refers here to the father, not to Mary. In addition to this, 'birth', in the Greek is, Genesis, meaning, to engender. In contrast to this admonition of an engendering through human parents, the writer of Matthew proclaims, "...she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."
The writer uses the common Greek for Holy Ghost, which contradicts the point he is attempting to make. The Greek used is, 'pneumatos (haigon)'.
"This expression, unfortunately, by definition which occurs fifty times without articles, is never used of the Giver, the Holy Spirit, but of his gift."
"...saying, Joseph thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
The original Greek text does not translate as tradition dictates, for the term, pneumatos haigon, is used again. It speaks of the more originally read, "...for the thing begotten in her is filled with the Spirit, and is holy."

Okay, so the argument rages as to whether she became pregnant through Joseph or something else occurred. Take care to note what Greek words are used for it is key. It clearly states that the thing begotten is “filled with Spirit and is holy”!!!! Also the Holy Ghost is thought to be female. So the order of conception in these cases is an Angel appears telling the women that they will conceive through the Lord. The Lord is thought or assumed to be male and is of the spirit. Spirit is thought to be fire or air. Then the Holy Ghost appears. Now the Holy Ghost is thought to be water. Then the birth which is an earthly manifestation.

Okay, that out of the way, there is this curiousity:

“These are the exact words that Luke uses for the prophecy of the birth of John. And it repeats the Law's statement that any male child who breaches the womb is considered holy to God.”

Now any person acquainted with simple biology would have to say not only would a male child that did this be holy, it would be fairly impossible. For the way it works according to what we are taught, is the husband or male sexual partner of the woman that performs this act and breaches the woman “deflowering her”. I want everyone to pay careful attention to this language of this quaint saying. DEFLOWERING. It is crucial. Now again, this “Law” says that a male child should do this, so is it all women into the swimming pool? Further:

“And then Jesus instructs us in the truth.

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth."

This would mean Jesus agrees and gives validation to the idea that God is spirit and air or fire. It goes on to state the Fall comes from the flesh. It’s here that something new was triggered in my brain.

I knew that the Greeks had explained things in a certain way and had certain beliefs. They concurred and agreed with the idea of classes of creation being elements:

“Numenius reserved the term, "good in himself (autoagathos)" for the supreme First God, who does not create but is the Father of the Second God, the Demiurge or creator. The First is Father, the Second Creator (poiëtes), and the Third what is created (poiëma). "The First God is at rest, while the Second , on the contrary, is in motion; the First is concerned with the intelligible realm, the Second with both the intelligible and sensible....In place of the motion inherent in the Second, I declare that the stability (stasis) inherent in the First is an innate motion, from which derives the order of the cosmos and its eternal permanence, and preservation is poured forth upon all things." p.153.

Numenius was a polytheist and remained so.
In the second century the most prominent advocates of triadic doctrine were the Neopythagoreans and the Middle Platonists..Plato found the soul of the universe like a chi (the cross) in the universe (Timaeus 36BC). This world soul was the Logos, said Justin, and Plato ascribed the place after the first God to it, as well as the third place to the Spirit, which in Genesis was said to be borne above the waters. All this was supposedly indicated in a bit of mystification in the so-called Second Epistle of Plato (312E) which was much admired by Platonists and early Christians. p.152 …”

This seemed to mimick what was being said about these women being filled with spirit. And notice that Plato said that in Genesis Spirit is ABOVE waters. Again the stages for these virgin births are: The Lord (Spirit), then the Holy Ghost (Water) and birth (earth). Also notice that the First god is “AT REST”. It is this second usurper that is moving. Further:

"…But Matthew's account presupposes the virgin birth throughout. Pagan mythology had many tales of children born from intercourse between a god and a woman, or a goddess and a man."
Indeed, most Greek mythological heroes were thought to have been born in this manner. And the New Testament is a Greek text! It is a Hellenistic document with all the inherent mysticism attributed to that literary style. …”

Well, this is provocative and true. It’s true that gods and goddesses get together and produce “fruit,” but it’s also true that this cross-breeding goes on where a mortal woman gives birth to a god. Then I read:

“Virgin is taken from the Greek word, parthenos …”

When I read that word, “parthenos” I remembered the word, “parthenogenesis”. It’s then I just started doing searches. I don’t even remember the key words I used. I remembered the Parthenon and Athena the Virgin. I knew I was onto something and I knew I was uncovering a little of the mystery, but I wasn’t there yet. It is here a search produced the magic needed. The key. It started the lightbulbs going and the lightning flash that hit me in my head for it’s here I made the acquaintance of Magadalene and her writings:
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000175.html

Magdalene

“In "The Sirius Mystery" by Robert K.G. Temple,the author traces (and laboriously so)
the Annunaki/Elohim (of Sitchin fame) to a town called "Colchis" which was located near Mt. Ararat (Noah's Ark) along the border between Turkey and Armenia. (Read the chapter titled "Hounds of Hell in Temple's book.)It was at Colchis, that we trace the story of Jason and the Argonauts and the Legend of the Golden Fleece. Temple theorizes that the Golden Fleece legend came into being because the plant "Colchicum" (Meadow Saffron) produced a strong yellow dye. The mystery becomes exceedingly interesting however, when Temple also points out that Colchis was also known both as "The graveyard of the gods", as well as the place where "The Ressurection of the Sun god(s)", and certainly Horace took place.I think Temple missed the significance of this entirely. Why? It's because today, our modern scientists use the chemical agent "colchicine" to wipe out the nucleus of an egg in the CLONING PROCESS!!! And "colchicine" (type the word in at yahoo search)is the chemical derivative of the colchicum plant! The very necessary plant that grew in abundance in Colchis, which was at once called "the graveyard and resurrection place of the gods." What does this suggest to you?
In my opinion "the golden fleece award" goes to the reserrection of the sun god(s)for it looks like their infamous "immortality" was due in part at least to the cloning process!
Hopefully some freemason will read this and check it out for himself. The Resurrection of the sun god(s)is likely quite different that the Resurrection of Christ. I don't think they are the same at all...”

There it was! The smoking gun! But as in all forums, Magdalene had a debunker called Segenenre Tao II trying to berate what she had to say:

“Seqenenre Tao II
I was referring to the work that was done at Oxford by Dr. Christopher Graham. My source states "Graham takes several mouse eggs and washes them with a chemical called colchicine, which destroys the nucleus even though it is buried deep within the cell. He extracts adult spleen cells from another mouse and mixes them with a batch of the Sendai virus. The viruses stick to the walls of the spleen cells like raisins in rice pudding. To this virus-cell pudding Graham then adds his enucleated mouse eggs and places the entire agglomerate under the microscope, where he uses a tiny glass rod to tap together cell and egg. Once this fusion has taken place, the nucleus of the spleen cell provides the genetic information for the egg to act upon. The egg begins to divide, just as if it had been fertillized in the normal way by a sperm. Unfortunately, these fused, dividing eggs do not continue to develop, and no cloned mouse has yet been born from this technique, but ultimate success is just a matter of time."
I am left with the impression that ongoing experimentation with the chemical continues, and though success has not yet been reached, many researchers continue to try to perfect the process.
In other words, the jury is still out.”

But the jury is not out because he contacted his friend Chris and this is Chris’ reply:

“Chris’ reply:
Dear [Seqenenre Tao II]
Colchicine is the natural substance, now replaced by synthetic and less toxic colcemid, that is used to arrest the cell cycle when collecting metaphase chromosomes for making spreads of chromosomes.Y Colchicine was used by Edwards, or Fischberg, or Beatty (or all three, when they were working together) to enucleate 1-cell mouse eggs. The eggs were activated and the egg pronucleus sometimes went into the second polar body in second metaphase. In my hands the method worked but was unreliable (I do not remember publishing). The Edwards & Beatty work can probably be picked up in Beatty,R.A. (1967?) "Pathenogenesis and Polyploidy in Mammalian Development", Cambridge University Press.

I believe that there are recent reports on the use of a substance called something like demicolcine that has been used for the same purpose in domestic animal nuclear transfer. It is said to give much better development after nuclear transfer.

Sorry not to be more definite:I have been out of this field for 30 years.
Best wishes Chris Graham
Perhaps if you wish to pursue this theory, you may like to have a look into the uses of “demicolchine”. This must be spelt wrong, as the search of the National Centre for Biotechnology Information gave a “no items found”. If you wish to do a serious search into reputably published sources, just type your search terms into http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/ “

As I said, I felt a flash of lightning, this was it. Colchicine. It’s then I went into action. I did a search for this chemical and found this. It is used for “HEART” ailments:

“HEART CHAMBERS

What is pericarditis?

Pericarditis is an inflammation of the lining sac (pericardium) which surrounds the heart. It can be associated with a collection of fluid (pericardial effusion) in the space between the heart and the pericardium. Pericarditis accounts for approximately 1 in 1,000 hospital admissions. It is found in about 5% of patients at autopsy. This implies that many cases of pericarditis occur without symptoms severe enough to come to medical attention.
Some patients with pericarditis develop fast heart rhythms (tachycardias). Rare patients develop rapid accumulation of fluid in the pericardial sac. This fluid causes compression of the heart muscle chambers, thereby limiting the amount of blood pumped to the rest of the body, and causing shock. This life-threatening condition, called pericardial tamponade, can occur in up to 15% of patients with pericarditis.

Colchicine, a drug normally used to treat attacks of gout (excess uric acid causing joint inflammation), can sometimes be useful in treating patients with resistant pericarditis.”

But where does one get Colchicine and how far does it go back as a treatment? It’s here I found the source of Colchicine. It seems Colchicine comes from THE CROCUS!

“ANCIENT REMEDY
http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_autumn_crocus.htm

This foot-high perennial plant has dark green, tulip like leaves that grow out of a corm, a fleshy, bulblike base. Crocus flowers are light purple or white.

During the fifth century doctors in the Byzantine Empire had a high regard for the plant's effectiveness as a remedy for "conditions of the joints" (probably rheumatism and arthritis), and Arab physicians prescribed autumn crocus for gout. In England during the 17th and 18th centuries, autumn crocus gained recognition in the London Pharmacopoeia, was then dropped, and later reinstated.

The ancient herbalists were correct in their assessment of this herb's value, for modern science has established that colchicine, an alkaloid occurring in autumn crocus, relieves the pain and inflammation of gout. Colchicine is still derived from the plant itself because chemists have not been able to synthesize it inexpensively.

PARTS USED

Corm, seed, flower.

USES

According to legends, the crocus indicates either the place where the gods Jove and Juno lay together or the place where the enchantress Medea spilled an elixir of life. Related species produce saffron, used since antiquity as a spice and dye. The crocus's corm, an underground bulblike organ, has been used historically as a potent poison, ground into a powder, and was often administered in wine. According to the Greek naturalist Theophrastus, slaves ate small pieces of the corm when they were angry with their masters to make themselves ill and unable to work. Scientists use colchicine, the plant's principal alkaloid, to develop strains of crops that produce larger fruits and vegetables and are more disease resistant.
The autumn crocus's main active principle is the alkaline substance colchicine, which is used today as one of the principal drugs in gout therapy, as it may have been 4,000 years ago by the ancient Egyptians. Autumn crocus has been used to treat rheumatism, dropsy, and prostate enlargement. With colchicine, Egyptian and Israeli doctors have treated familial Mediterranean fever, which is fever accompanied by abdominal, joint, and chest pain. Because colchicine has been shown to stop cell division, scientists have researched its use as an anticancer agent, but it is currently regarded as too toxic for cancer treatment. Research is now being done on colchicine's effectiveness as a treatment for chronic hepatitis and cirrhosis.

Autumn crocus is considered one of the best remedies for acute gout pain. Leukemia has been successfully treated with autumn crocus, and the plant has also been used with some success to treat Behcet's syndrome, a chronic disease marked by recurring ulcers and leukemia. Taken internally, autumn crocus has significant side effects even at low dosage. Externally, it is applied to relieve neuralgia and itchiness.

HOMEOPATHY
The ancient Greeks found this plant to be invaluable in the treatment of gout and rheumatism, and it was called "the soul of the joints." It has also been used for bronchitis, dropsy, fevers, venereal disease, neuroses, and convulsions.

The key use of Colchicum is for gout where the pain is severe and touch or the slightest motion is unbearable. Characteristically, the big toe is the most affected and the pain causes extreme sensitivity.

Colchicum is also used to treat digestive disorders such as heartburn, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, which are better for bending forward. It also helps heart disorders and muscle and joint complaints.”

“HABITAT AND CULTIVATION

Common in Europe and North Africa, autumn crocus grows wild in woods and damp meadows. It is also cultivated. The corm is gathered in early summer, the seeds in late summer.

Note that it can STOP CELL DIVISION! Also note the AUTUMN CROCUS is used. AUTUMN = SEPTEMBER = VIRGO THE VIRGIN AND VIRGIN BIRTHS. Now we all know the phrase a double-edged sword, and that if you can use things for one purpose, if you reverse it, it can be used in the opposite direction. So I kept reading and with the next paragraph I fell off my seat:

CONSTITUENTS

Autumn crocus contains alkaloids (including colchicine) and flavonoids. Colchicine is anti-inflammatory and is used in conventional medicine for acute attacks of gout. As it affects cell division, it can cause fetal abnormality. Colchicine has been used in the laboratory to create new genetic strains.”

Whoops there it is! “COLCHICINE HAS BEEN USED IN THE LABORATORY TO CREATE NEW GENETIC STRAINS”

I went to another site. And found this about its use in Ancient Egypt:

“http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/history/lecture23/lec23l.html

Egypt has a continuous 6000-year record with a unique and productive agriculture at its base. From 4000 to 3000 BCE people in the Nile valley established highly advanced agricultural technology, formed a government, and as early as 3000 BCE constructed the first pyramids.
The connection between medicine and plant lore has a strong foundation in Ancient Egypt. A medical treatise looted from a tomb of the XVIII dynasty in 1862, and acquired by a German Professor, George Ebers, for the then enormous sum of $8000, is perhaps the earliest complete book known of any kind, dating to about 1550 BCE. The Ebers Papyrus is a collection of 811 prescriptions, interspersed with diagnosis, symptoms, physiological descriptions of the action of the heart, and concluding with the surgical treatment of wounds and sores. The manuscript is as undamaged scroll, over 30 cm × 20 m long, consisting of over 3000 lines of text written in a cursive script called Hieratic (Fig. 1). The text, interspersed with spells and incantations, is a compilation and contains remnants of early material; one passage presumes to date from the first dynasty, ca. 3400 BCE.
Some of the recipes seem quite fantastic and are composed of a mixture of various substances including botanicals, animal and insect parts, and minerals. Were they efficacious? It seems unlikely that most of them were, but in several of them, it is quite clear that a therapeutic effect could be due to at least one of the ingredients. For example, there are a number of remedies to cure constipation involving castor oil while poppy was prescribed to induce sleep. Crocus, the source of colchicine, is also prescribed in a diuretic medicine but it is unclear if its use to relieve gout was known. Other plant materials used include acanthus, acacia, aloe, Arabian wood, balsam, barley, bean (Vicia faba), caraway, cedar, coriander, crocus, cucumber, cyperus, date, elderberry, fennel, fig, flax, garlic, grape, juniper, lettuce, linseed, mint, mulberry, nasturtium, onion, palm, papyrus, peppermint, pomegranate, poppy, saffron, sycomore, watermelon, wheat, willow, wormwood, and Zizyphus-lotus, Many of the recipes were quite complex, and carefully proportioned. They were administered as gargles, snuffs, inhalations, suppositories, fumigations, enemas, poultices, decoctions.”

At this I want you all to remember the story of Azazel and that he knew all about plants and root cuttings. He taught this science. It would seem of colchicine was used, it would have to be applicable in this realm.
http://www.cast-science.org/cast/pgm_edu/sfa2-1.txt

Colchicine. In plant breeding, the number of sets of chromosomes can be
manipulated by the use of colchicine. This is an alkaloid that may be
extracted from the seeds and corms of the autumn crocus and some other
plants. When cells are dividing, the presence of a very low concentration of colchicine may cause the number of sets of chromosomes in a diploid to double. This results in tetraploid progeny. Doubling again will produce an octaploid.

The first seedless watermelons were produced in 1939 by Kihara and
Nishiyama of the Japanese National Institute of Genetics. They first
developed a fertile tetraploid watermelon by use of the then-new
colchicine technology. This plant was mated with a normal diploid
watermelon to produce a sterile triploid. Seedless watermelons are still produced by this same basic method.

The basic theory is simple enough, but in production, things are less
smooth. The lack of seed in the seedless triploid watermelons means that tetraploid and diploid parent plants must be mated each time the hybrid seed is needed. The sterile triploid plants produce flowers, but the flowers do not produce fruit unless the flowers receive pollen from a fertile plant with an even number of sets of chromosomes. This means that growers must interplant triploid plants with plants having an even number of sets of chromosomes and producing fertile pollen. Consequently, only part of the producing area can be planted to the desired seedless melons, and the effective yield is reduced. The poor yield and germination percentage of triploid seed creates another problem.

To produce triploid seed, C. F. Andrus suggested sandwiching a row of tetraploid plants between two rows of diploid plants. The tetraploid plants would then produce a mixture of tetraploid and triploid seed. The triploid seeds could not be distinguished visually from the tetraploid seeds, but the mixture could be sold for planting. The plants that resulted from the tetraploid seeds would produce enough pollen to cause the flowers on the triploid plants to produce seedless watermelons, but the tetraploid plants would also fertilize themselves and would produce watermelons containing seeds. Triploid and tetraploid melons differ enough in shape so they can be separated manually for marketing, but this is a labor-intensive operation.”

There is so much in the above text, that I want to reiterate a few points. Number one: “.Doubling again will produce an octaploid.” Octapoloid? You mean, as in Octopus? Then this for it is absolutely at the heart of 223 or 322: “The sterile triploid plants produce flowers, but the flowers do not produce fruit unless the flowers receive pollen from a fertile plant with an even number of sets of chromosomes.”

Tripoloid = 3. Must be mated with even sets of chromosomes. “2” would be considered even.

Now we will learn how colchicine can be used to “multiply” a MONOPOLOID number as in creating a TRIPOLOID (Triple Goddess?). It can then also be used to reduce the multiplied number of chromosomes back to a MONOPOLOID. MONOPOLIDS are STERILE. This is what the original bloodline was. Women COULD NOT CONCEIVE BY SEXUAL (GENITAL) COPULATION. It was always meant that they NOT do this. By the use of Colchicine, it became possible and spirits (the Divine), were trapped in these bodies of flesh.

Let us examine the science in more depth.
http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:XXVPaP1ZbbEJ:www.bmb.psu.edu/courses/biol222/exam3_notes.pdf+bees+chemical+Colchicine+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Monoploid Number‡Number of chromosomes in the basic set
of an organism.
Euploid‡Organisms with multiples of the monoploid number.
Polyploid‡Euploid with more than two sets of chromosomes.
Monoploid = 1x
Diploid = 2x
Triploid = 3x
etc...
n (haploid number)‡The number of chromosomes in gametes.
n = x for most organisms.
Monoploid organisms‡male bees, wasps, ants.
Males develop parthogenetically from unfertilized eggs.
These organisms are sterile because meiosis is not possible
(no pairing).
Plant Engineering
Generate a monoploid plant from a diploid. Then generate a drug resistant diploid from the monoploid plant.
(Figure 18-3)
Colchicine inhibits mitotic spindle formation. After mutant selection and growth, use colchicine for one cell division.
Autopolyploids‡Multiple chromosome sets from within one
species.
Allopolyploids ‡Multiple chromosome sets from closely relatedspecies.
Triploids (3x)‡Problems during meiotic segregation (sterile).
(4x) Tetraploid
X
(2x) Diploid
‚
(3x) Triploid
(e.g.)
Seedless watermelons and bananas.
Autotetraploids‡Arise spontaneously from accidental doubling
(2X to 4X) or use colchicine.
Advantages: larger plant and fruit
Polyploidy in animals
Leeches, brine shrimp
Common in amphibians and reptiles.
Salmon and trout originated through polyploidy.
Oysters (3x)‡No spawning‡palatable all year.
Most human triploids are spontaneously aborted. If born, none survive.:

Notice here that Polyploidal animals are COMMON IN AMPHIBIANS AND REPTILES. SALMON AND TROUT ORIGINATED THROUGH POLYPLOIDY. These would be water and have bred the “fish” line of the Dagons. It is reprehensible that Jesus is associated with this polluted line of beings. Notice also that HUMAN TRIPOLOIDS ARE SPONTANEOUSLY ABORTED. Notice also that the Gnostics considered “Satan” or the “Demiurge” to be AN ABORTION!
http://www.kheper.net/topics/Gnosticism/fall.html

“This is classical Gnostic conception of the Fall. The idea of the Fall is a well-known one, especially in the Christian tradition, where it has captured the imagination for centuries. But Gnostic, Manichaean, and Lurianic (Kabbalistic) Cosmologies differ from conventional religious Cosmology in that they holds that the Fall actually proceeded creation, and indeed was the very cause of it. Creation was originally not something planned and carried out in an orderly way by a kind of supernatural architect- scientist called "God", but rather the result of a kind of supernal Fall or Crisis from within the Divine Itself. This idea of the Fall means goes far beyond the Christian myth of Adam and Eve disobeying God. Although this myth is indeed charged with many meanings, it is unable to convey the cosmic significance of what is involved here, for it is limited to the human level.
According to this cosmology then, Sophia ("Wisdom") the youngest and brashest of the emanated divinities (or "Aeons"), tries to emulate the Fore-father, who alone has the true power of Creation, and as a result produces not a genuine creation but an "abortion", which, after a long series of transformations, became the Cosmos and the lower powers which rule it.”

And please think of something else that I had never even connected. When I said things must be right before our eyes, it is never so true as this. Religion and philosophic thought has always referred to “THE FALL OF MAN”. Get it? “THE FALL” FALL = AUTUMN CROCUS!

This is why Pagan rites and rituals included the Crocus, but the hideous side of the Crocus. The demonic side. Look at a picture of the female reproductive system from the front. It is identical with the “head” of Satan. But Satan has the body of a goat. It is mean to depict the female to be rutted like a goat. That is what Pagan worship is about. It is worship “of the earth”. Therefore, the true bloodline was bastardized and used to populate the earth with trapped souls and demons. The original bloodline would NEVER have been able to mate in these ways without the deliberate manipulation of it. Women were STERILE to this way of conceiving. That is why the Bible makes such a huge deal in telling us that Mary’s bloodline was STERILE. It means that her bloodline was unblemished in this way. There is more to this story, for it is this bloodline that will redeem us all. Not through the vulgar description that Mary Magdalene was pregnant through having sex with Jesus Christ. That never happened. But it is the mystery of the TWO MESSIAHS hinted at earlier. What has been done WILL be undone, and we will have our paradise.

One more fact to prove the impossible. Here it is. It concerns “LIZARDS”:
http://www.scienceagogo.com/message_board4/messages/330.shtml

“THINK. Did it say that the ONLY species exhibiting virgin birth is this lizard?

The leap from "this species does this" to "this species and only this species does this" is a significant logical failure.

Your thought processes may bear re-examining. It is not the article which is at fault.

Any number of species can be shown to have reproduced parthenogenetically at some point. In fact, many mammals and even humans can if you give them the right dose of Colchicine at the right time; the Australian Aborigines knew this and took advantage of it.”

Aborigines. Another group of people that were deliberately and methodically targeted for destruction. For their traditions to die. For Aborigine children were taken from their rightful parents and “placed” in White homes. It seems TBTB thought that their parents couldn’t raise them. But was it to separate them from that hidden tradition. For if a generation of children were cut off from their source, there would be no oral tradition and the mysteries would die with them. Here is one such link:
http://nativenet.uthscsa.edu/archive/nl/91b/0149.html

“Call for `stolen children' inquiry
By Debra Wirth
A call for a national public inquiry into the policy of removing Aboriginal children from their families has been launched by the Secretariat of the National Aboriginal and Islander Child Care (SNAICC).
Under the assimilationist policies of successive Australian governments, continued until the late 1960s, at least 5000 Aboriginal children in NSW alone were taken from their homes.
The usual justification for this forced removal was that the children could be ``educated''. Generally this meant domestic service for girls and menial manual labour for boys. The children were mostly placed at great distances from their families, making contact virtually impossible. This policy was aimed at wiping out an entire people.
When, as a result of protests, wholesale removals were ended, they were replaced with more subtle policies which had the same effect. In Victoria, for example, Aboriginal children could still be removed from their families up until the early 1970s after the filing of a Care and Protection Application. Children removed in this way usually became wards of the state.”

Yes, as the article states, “This policy was aimed at wiping out an entire people.” It was intended to.

Also this taking of Colchicine explains the symbolism in “Total Recall” for was not the MESSIAH hidden in the belly? “Colchicine taken at the right time.” That would imply Colchicine being in the stomach.

The next installment will be the Coming of the Lord. For Jesus WILL walk the earth again.

you know those little pictures of mama celeste? yeah, the ones on the pizza box ...
envision, if you will, her portrait on the one dollar bill.

1. Judah.... Black Americans
2. Benjamin... West Indies
3. Levi.... Haitians
4. Simeon... Dominicans
5. Zebulon... Guatemala to Panama
6. Ephraim.... Puerto Rico
7. Manasseh... Cubans
8. Gad.... North American Indians
9. Reuben... Semimole Indians
10.Napthali... Argentina & Chile
11. Asher... Columbia to Uruaguay
12. Issachar... Mexicans

Where are the Euro's or forefathers of this melting pot they have forcefully made over the past years. They have made themselves apart of History by tying into the vine or simply writing themselves into the books all of us read.

If I am not mistaken, Quetzacoatl was a feathered SERPENT God of Teotihucan in Mexico. Other serpent gods of Mexico were Coatlcue and Xiuhcoatl. Khukulkhan was the SERPENT god of Chichen Itza Mexico.

I can give you a list of other SERPENT GODS from other places, but take note that every culture that had pyramids, their god is going to be somekind of snake, serpent, reptile or viper. Maybe these gods promised them things as they came down from the skies. They could have helped them to build things like the pyramids for a reason only they really know. If those Gods were soo good why is every culture with pyramids a desolate, dead place?

EXAMPLES of Egyptian Gods/Dragons:
Apep- Type/Species: Sea Serpent
First he was the sun God, but replaced by Ra, and he became very mad about it. Apep became the symbol of evil. Every night he would try to end Ra's journey, but each time he failed. On occasions, what we call eclipses, he would succeed in his mission, but he later would reguirgitate/ He is depicted as having no limbs cause Ra cut them off. (Store sound familiar with the biblcal epic of Lucipher being a snake and curse to walk on his belly).

Denwen- A fiery serpent said to be a threat to the Gods.
Wadjet- Type/Species: Dragon Beast
She was mistress of lower Egypt, sister of Nekhebet.

Nehebkau- Type/Species: Drake
He was tamed by Ra and even rode with him in the Boat of the Sun. Name means "he who harnesses the spirits. said to be immune to water and fire and had human arms and legs.
Ammut- Dragon Beast:
Head of s crocodile and the body of a dragon, she ended the cycle of life if Egyptians sinned. She waited until the persons sins were weighed.
Iaculi- Winged Serpent:
usually on tombs of the departed
Mehen- usually being coiled around the boat of the sun.
CHINESE DRAGONS
Chinese believed they are decendants of the dragon. The goddess NuKua was half mortal half dragon, and she spawned the dragons that could shift from human to dragon. They could rise to the heavens, go to the bottom of the sea, and even change size.
JAPANESE DRAGONS:
Yamata no Orochi was a huge snake with 8 legs and 8 tails.
Hai-riyo was also a dragon god.

BABYLONIAN DRAGON:
Humbaba

Go to this website: http://www.crystalinks.com/mexico.html

If I am not mistaken, Quetzacoatl was a feathered SERPENT God of Teotihucan in Mexico. Other serpent gods of Mexico were Coatlcue and Xiuhcoatl. Khukulkhan was the SERPENT god of Chichen Itza Mexico.

I can give you a list of other SERPENT GODS from other places, but take note that every culture that had pyramids, their god is going to be somekind of snake, serpent, reptile or viper. Maybe these gods promised them things as they came down from the skies. They could have helped them to build things like the pyramids for a reason only they really know. If those Gods were soo good why is every culture with pyramids a desolate, dead place?

EXAMPLES of Egyptian Gods/Dragons:
Apep- Type/Species: Sea Serpent
First he was the sun God, but replaced by Ra, and he became very mad about it. Apep became the symbol of evil. Every night he would try to end Ra's journey, but each time he failed. On occasions, what we call eclipses, he would succeed in his mission, but he later would reguirgitate/ He is depicted as having no limbs cause Ra cut them off. (Store sound familiar with the biblcal epic of Lucipher being a snake and curse to walk on his belly).

Denwen- A fiery serpent said to be a threat to the Gods.
Wadjet- Type/Species: Dragon Beast
She was mistress of lower Egypt, sister of Nekhebet.

Nehebkau- Type/Species: Drake
He was tamed by Ra and even rode with him in the Boat of the Sun. Name means "he who harnesses the spirits. said to be immune to water and fire and had human arms and legs.
Ammut- Dragon Beast:
Head of s crocodile and the body of a dragon, she ended the cycle of life if Egyptians sinned. She waited until the persons sins were weighed.
Iaculi- Winged Serpent:
usually on tombs of the departed
Mehen- usually being coiled around the boat of the sun.
CHINESE DRAGONS
Chinese believed they are decendants of the dragon. The goddess NuKua was half mortal half dragon, and she spawned the dragons that could shift from human to dragon. They could rise to the heavens, go to the bottom of the sea, and even change size.
JAPANESE DRAGONS:
Yamata no Orochi was a huge snake with 8 legs and 8 tails.
Hai-riyo was also a dragon god.

BABYLONIAN DRAGON:
Humbaba

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This type is very close to the ideals found in Mayan history (symbolized as the water of life), Japan and others (i.e. Aztek). The Mayans for instance look like an Egyptian offspring, but how exactly did they begin? The use of the feathered serpent (Cobra) is not the deciever. This was a symbol used by Pharoah to declair to the deciever that he could perceive through thy lie. It is a form of extended vision a very commonly used technology (vision, in many variations) by Ancient Egyptian Spirits.

Everything is so vast and huge but, very easy to get to if you have the right access (and/or skill). Just like the commercial egyptian taste.

The use of "Sun" of "Star" gods was fairly common (but not the only kind) causing a reaction like watch the stars light and energy aren't they great?

The question some still have is where did all this spiritual energy come from? And why does it happen? Including the "Sun" gods themselves....For this one might look to the center of all things.

Did you even read the book "Lost Book of Enki"? Supposely you have not even read the book I guess. however in the book in the parts like here

"Enki tells Ningishzidda, "Let us create a Lulu, a primitive
worker, the hardship to take over, let the Being the toil of the
Anunnaki [astronaut-pioneers] carry on his back.... The Being that we
need, it already exists. All that we have to do is put on it the
mark of our essence [ie, our genes], thereby a Lulu, a Primitive
Worker shall be created! [The Lost Book of Enki, pages 124 -127]!"

" Enki, Earth's Lord, showed the apemen to Enlil, Earth's
Commander and Ninurta, Enlil's Foremost Warrior,
says, "Ningishziddha, my son, their fashioning essence [DNA
structure] has tested; akin to ours it is, like two serpents it is
entwined. When with our life essence shall be combined, our mark
upon them shall be, a Primitive Worker shall be created. Our
commands will he understand. Our tools he will handle, the toil in
the excavations he shall perform, to the Anunnaki in the Abuzu
[Africa] relief shall come." [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of
Enki, page 130]"

"Enlil objected to Enki's plan. 'Don't create a
Nibiran/Apeman slave class here on Earth,' Enlil reminded Enki, "On
our planet [Nibiru], slavery has long ago been abolished, tools are
slaves, not other beings." [Sitchin, ibid.] Ninurta added that to
get gold better, Enki should make tools, not slaves. ENKI REPLIED, 'EARTHLINGS WE'LL CREATE'LL BE "HELPERS," NOT SLAVES.

Humans were to be helpers to Enki and the Annaunki that were digging for gold to save Nibiru's atmosphere.Yet a helper and a slave are two different things.

Helper-someone who helps another with something and not demanding them to do a lot.

Slaves-having someone to obey and command you and making you work.

The question is,why would someone want to let their own creation they adore be destroyed in the first place? I am sure that is why Enki reminded "Noah" about the flood.

..then it goes on how Enki had something else in mind

"Hybrid Earthling slaves as Enlil know them as proliferated Enki's Africa and, as
their numbers grew, were re-introduced to Mesopotamia, there to labor
for the Nibiran lords.

But the hybrids also foraged for food all over Mesopotamia
and created food shortages for their lords. To alleviate the
shortages they caused, Enki planned to uplevel the Earthlings'
intelligence. With enhanced intelligence, Earthlings could tend
plants and domestic animals.As well as having domination over these things of earth.

In the book then it goes on to talk about later on that some of the astronaunts(annunki) took human wives and married them.Yet Enlil and other of the annunki were threatened to destroy Earth by some of the Nephilim's union with the human wives.

Anyway I am not trying to start a arguement but I am clearing up some things that I KNOW..and if there is any questions :-) go ahead and ask them and i'll give the best answers I can give you.

Sincerely,
Heather
Then it comes to a story where Enki had intercourse with a Earthling and begat a son named ZIUSUDRA(Noah).Ninmah a Nibiruian woman love and cared for Noah and Enki taught Noah how to read and so on just like a Father.

Anyway my personal feelings about Enki and so on was that Enlil HATES humanity because he is afraid that we may raise at the same "level" as they are in the intelligence and spiritual development.It was Enki who kept us alive ..yet you know ..Enki also had a similiar view "live and let live and life should be free and not manipulated" or else .....

Enki later on became known as Ptah,and it was him who established Brotherhood of the Serpent in ancient Egypt.

Enki's symbol is the snake.Which meant wisdom.It was him who gave knowledge to Adamu(Adam) and Ti-amat(Eve).You can find the story in Gensis of the Bible..and Enki is that serpent.Enlil is the one known as "god" in the bible,he is yahweh,etc. ....If you read the Lost Book of Enki you will know who is the true freedom fighter and the true Hero.