posted 02-13-2003 21:35         

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Either there are some absolute truths, or nothing is real.

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Focus on the latter half of your sentence, DG. What do you see?

Hey, I'm a 'team player,' I accept that "1 + 1 = 2." And I'm sure I'll not do an acceptable job of explaining, but the concept of "1" is a human invention.

1 L (liter)
1 s (second)
1 g (gram)
1 m (meter)
1 ? (whatever)

And I agree that the mathematical rules, to this point, have never been defied (good thing). And, if it can someday be shown that 1? is not= 1?, but is 1(x)?, that doesn't really cahnge anything, just the ratio and proportion.

BUT, (and, I mean "BUT") if the concept of '+' '*' '-' '/' could be demonstrated invalid, then that would, literally, change the world (and cosmos) - or at least our concept of it.

I agree that there (must) exist an 'absolute truth' (an absolute standard, an absolute reference). I am not positive that we have certainly ascertained it. That's all.

Why don't you start that 'Infinity Theory' thread, see where it goes?

posted 02-13-2003 23:10         

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Hey, I'm a 'team player,' I accept that "1 + 1 = 2." And I'm sure I'll not do an acceptable job of explaining, but the concept of "1" is a human invention.

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posted 02-14-2003 12:11         

If you're joking:

"Right, Dorian, could have been the Nefelim / Annunaki / Gods / Watchers / Illuminati / Cryptocrats."

If you're serious:

posted 02-14-2003 09:16         

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posted 02-14-2003 11:19         

I am more or less saying that mathematics was discovered, rather than invented, and that 1+1=2 is an absolute truth. On another planet, it's glarg fin glarg daka bleen, or whatever, but the concept is just there.

Why do I think this? We 'discover' knowledge every day, even exponentially. What you are suggesting almost sounds like we invent knowledge, i.e., everything we know is made up. If that is true, then majority rule and conventional wisdom determines what is factual, rather than facts just being true regardless of knowledge, perception or method of discovery. That sort of 'everyone knows that......' phenomenon. The thing that made a flat earth a fact long ago, that made the sun revolve around the earth.

What I am saying is that despite what people believed, the earth was round the whole time, and the earth revolved around the sun the whole time. REgardless of what humans believed, or what science said, or whatever, the sun-centric solar system with a spherical earth was a fact the whole time, an absolute truth.

And, so is 1+1=2. So are a lot of things.

posted 02-14-2003 15:24         

Thank-you for reminding me of one of my purposes in life.

Read postings on this forum.
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000267.html

Then go to this link
http://www.neilos.org/library_wands.htm

And read the Russian book. There is a summary article if you don’t want to wade through the whole book.

Then go to this link and read it.
http://www.neilos.org/Wands.htm

With respect to Ra, let me explain it like this. In the overall structure of the spiritual planes there is God at the top, i.e. the God head trinity. One of the first entities created was the one commonly known as Adam/Eve (the male/female twins, and the Father-King Initiate of the Spheres of Gross Matter), they are the next level down. Then on the next level down there is an entity known so many as Ra. Ra is responsible for all of the spiritual planes of development associated with those souls associated with Earth. Ra is also a twin of Osiris and on the same level as Jesus. Earth being the lowest plane, the only one that is material and the one where man first incarnates. It is also the furtherest away from the level occupied by God. Once a soul has learnt the lessons of the material plane and overcome its limitations, it then moves up to the next plane and so on. Imagine it like a ladder with the Earth and its associated spiritual planes as being the area below the first rung. The idea to progress to the top of the ladder.

There are other ladders, each with its own material plane at the bottom. The entity Ra is responsible for our vertical stream of development.

posted 02-14-2003 16:54         

"Ra is also a twin of Osiris and on the same level as Jesus."

Ra might disagree:

QUESTION: Will Jesus return to Earth (the 2nd coming)?

RA: The particular mind/body/spirit complex you call Jesus will not return except as a member of the Confederation speaking through a channel. However there are others of the identical congruency of consciousness that will welcome those to the 4th density. This is the meaning of the 2nd coming. (B1, 165)

I. JESUS CAME FROM THE HIGHEST PART OF THE 4TH DENSITY

RA: The entity Jesus was a member of 4th density of the highest level of that sub-octave. He desired to enter planetary service in order to share the love vibration in as pure a manner as possible. This entity could have gone onto the 5th density but chose instead to return to 3rd density for this particular mission. (B1, 162)

II. THE ORION GROUP OPPOSED HIM

QUESTION: When Jesus incarnated was there an attempt by the Orion group to discredit him?

RA: This is correct. They built on negative information already present given by the one your peoples call "Yahweh”. This led Judas to believe that Jesus, if pushed into a corner, could be made to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity to rule others. This resulted in the death of Jesus.

III. WHY WAS JESUS SUCH A GOOD HEALER?

QUESTION: If Jesus was 4th density and there are Wanderers on the planet today who came from 5th and 6th density, what made Jesus such a good healer and could these 5th and 6th density beings here now do the same? (B1, 164)

RA: Those who heal may be of any density which has the consciousness of spirit (i.e., 4th through 7th). The gate to intelligent infinity can only be opened when an understanding of the in-streamings of intelligent energy are opened to the healer.

True healing is simply the radiance of the self causing an environment in which a catalyst can occur to cause the recognition of the self, by the self. (B1, 164)

Jesus first discovered his ability to penetrate intelligent infinity when he became angry at a playmate who was fatally wounded by Jesus's touch. Jesus determined to discover how to use this energy for the good, not for the negative.

Jesus was extremely positively polarized and remembered more than most Wanderers do.

He was galvanized by this experience and he left his home when he was 13.5 years old and walked to many other places seeking further information. This went on until he was 25, when he returned home. When he became able to integrate and synthesize all experiences, he began to speak to other-selves. He was absolved karmically of the destruction of the otherself when he forgave those who put him to death. In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, of what you call karma. (B1, 164-165)

IV. NOW JESUS IS IN 5TH DENSITY

QUESTION: In what density is Jesus now?

RA: This entity studies now the lessons of the wisdom vibration, the 5th density, also called the light vibration. (B1, 165)

V. THE CHOICE TO BE A MARTYR

RA: When Jesus decided to return to the location called Jerusalem for the holy days, he turned from work mixing love and wisdom and embraced martyrdom which is the work of love without wisdom. (B3, 185)

RA: This entity (Jesus) is aware of certain over-balances towards love, even to martyrdom but has not yet, to any significant degree, balanced these distortions. We do not imply that this course of unbridled compassion has any fault but affirm its perfection. It is an example of love which has served as beacon to many. For those who seek further, the consequences of martyrdom must be considered, for in martyrdom lies the end of the opportunity, in the density of the martyr, to offer light and love. Each entity must seek its deepest path. (B3, 186)

RA: Jesus incarnated with the plan of martyrdom. There is no wisdom in this plan but rather understanding and compassion extended to its fullest perfection. (B4, 82)
http://ascension2000.com/Ra-section4.htm

1. INTRODUCTION TO RA MATERIAL

I. FIRST STATEMENT

RA: I am Ra. I have not spoken through this instrument before. We had to wait until she was precisely tuned, as we send a narrow-band vibration. We greet you in the light and love of our Infinite Creator. We have been called to your group because you have a need for a more advanced approach to what you call, seeking the truth. We hope to offer you a somewhat different slant upon the information which is always and ever the same. (B1, 65)

II. WHO IS RA?

RA: We are those who are of the Law of One, of Unity. In our vibration the polarities are harmonized; the paradoxes have a solution. We are one. We have walked your planet and seen the faces of your peoples.

We now feel a great responsibility of helping remove certain distortions that have been given to the law of One. (B1, 65)

We, as social memory complex or group soul, made contact with a race on your planet which you call Egyptians. We spoke to one who heard and understood, and was in a position to decree the law of One. (Based on the Edgar Cayce Readings, we can see that this was the entity Ra-Ta, who helped Ra design the Great Pyramid with Hermes and much later reincarnated as Cayce himself). However the priests and the peoples of that era quickly distorted our message, robbing it of the compassion with which unity is informed. (B1, 66)

III. RA STILL SEEKS TO BECOME ALL THERE IS

RA: We still seek to become all that there is, and still we are Ra. Thus our paths go forward. (B1, 78)

IV. IS RA ONE OF MANY?

QUESTION: When I am communicating with you as Ra, are you at times individualized as an entity or am I speaking to an entire social memory complex?

RA: You speak with Ra. There is no separation. You would call it a social memory complex thus indicating many-ness. To our understanding, you are speaking to an individualized portion of consciousness (B1, 162)

[NOTE: In other words, Ra represents an entire planet worth of beings who have all fused into one unified consciousness. Each density in the Octave moves closer and closer to the fully unified One Mind of the Creation, the structures and abilities of mind becoming increasingly difficult for the human entity to fathom.]

2. THE HISTORY OF RA

I. IN 3RD DENSITY RA WAS HELPED BY 6TH DENSITY ENTITIES

RA: We were aided by 6th density entities during our own 3rd density experiences. Being extremely less warlike than humans we found this teaching to be of help. We had not developed the interrelationships of your money system and power. We were a more philosophical 3rd density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about understanding sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self. (B3, 66)

QUESTION: What civilization was it that helped Ra in 3rd density, using the pyramid shape?

RA: Your people have a fondness for the naming. These entities have begun their travel back to the Creator and are no longer experiencing time. (B3, 71)

II RA WAS TOO COMPASSIONATE IN 4TH DENSITY

RA: As a group soul in 4th density, we had the tendency towards compassion even to martyrdom in aid of other selves. When the 5th density harvest was achieved, we found that in this vibratory level flaws could be seen in the usefulness of such unrelieved compassion. We spent much time in contemplation of those ways of the Creator which fill love with wisdom. (B2, 95)

III. RA MADE CONTACT WITH EARTH PEOPLES

A. RA WAS AT THE 6TH DIMENSION WHEN EARTH WAS VISITED

RA: I am part of the social memory complex that voyaged outward from a planet in your solar system, the one you call Venus. We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the 6th dimension our physical beings were what you call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. The covering of our physical body complex had a golden luster. In this form we decided to come among your peoples. Your peoples were much unlike us in physical appearance. Thus we did not mix well with the population and were obviously other than they. Our visit was relatively short. This was when we built the pyramids. (B1, 90)

When we chose this mission among your peoples, we would have been perceived as light had we arrived on earth in our natural form. (B1, 103)

B. HOW DID YOU JOURNEY FROM VENUS TO EARTH?

We used thought. (B1, 90)

C. DID YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR DIMENSION TO BE ON EARTH?

From the 6th dimension we are capable of manipulating energy with thought which is the intelligent infinity present in each particle of light, or distorted light, so that we were able to clothe ourselves in a replica of our 6th density mind/body/spirit complexes which were visible in the third density. We were allowed this experiment by the council that guards this planet. (B1, 91)

D. WHERE IS THIS COUNCIL LOCATED?

RA: This Council is located in the 8th dimension of the planet Saturn, taking place, in 3rd dimensional terms, in the rings of Saturn. (B1, 91)

E. THEIR GIFTS WERE MISUSED

RA: We are those of the Confederation who, eleven thousand years ago, came to two of your planetary cultures which at that time were closely in touch with the Creation of the One Creator, It was our naive belief that we could teach by direct contact. These cultures were already closely aligned with an all-embracing belief in the live-ness or consciousness of all. We came and were welcomed by the peoples we wished to serve. We attempted to aid them in technical ways having to do with healing of mind/body/spirit complex through the use of the crystal. Thus were the pyramids created.

However, it turned out that those in power reserved this technology for themselves. This was not intended by the law of the One. We left your peoples.

However we have never left your vibration due to our responsibility for the changes in consciousness we had first caused and then found distorted in ways not relegated to the Law Of One.

We attempted to contact (mentally) the rulers of this land (Egypt). In the 18th dynasty we were able to contact a pharaoh, Aten or Ikhnaton. He was a wanderer. This entity became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the law of One. But his beliefs were accepted by few. When he fell, the polarized beliefs in many gods came into their own. (B1, 70-71)

RA: We came to your peoples to give the law of One. We wished to impress upon those who wished to learn of unity that in unity all paradoxes are resolved; all that is broken is healed: all that is forgotten is brought to light. (Fk,142)

F. THE TIMES WHEN RA HAS MADE CONTACT WITH EARTH

RA: The 1st attempt to aid your peoples occurred about 75,000 years ago. [Helped Martians come to Earth]. Next help was given to those of Mu about 58,000 years ago. Next, help was offered to Atlantis about 13,000 years ago. The next attempt was to help the Egyptians [and to some in South America] about 11,000 years ago. About 3500 years later [7500 years ago] help was offered again to some in South America. There were a few attempts to aid those in Egypt about 2300 years ago by others in the Confederation. The remaining part of this cycle we have never gone from your 5th dimension and have been working to prepare for the harvest. (B1, 135-136)

F. COULD PEOPLE HAVE LIVED ON VENUS THEN?

RA: The 3rd density conditions are not hospitable to the life-forms of your peoples. But the 5th and 6th dimensions of that planetary sphere are quite conducive to growing / learning. (B1, 90)

RA: The beings inhabiting Venus at this time are 5th density entities. (It,124)

G. RA STILL OFFERS ILLUMINATION

Near the end of Book 3 the questioner asks if enough material has been covered by that point to, if published, make the necessary reparations for the earlier naive actions of Ra.

RA: We mean no disrespect for your service but we do not expect to make full reparations for these distortions. The nature of your language is such that what is distorted cannot, to our knowledge, be fully undistorted but only illuminated somewhat. (B3, 162)
http://ascension2000.com/Ra-section1.htm

Alright so I'm back. I'll keep checking in I guess (not as much though), I can't stay away from you guys

Peace.
Love.
Light.

posted 02-14-2003 19:50         

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posted 02-15-2003 12:30         

The Wands are only a training tool, and provide a particular stimulation to the 6th and 7th charkas. The key is the seated position, look at the Egyptian statues. The human body is like an antenna, bend it into certain positions and it tunes to a different capability.

You may well be able to achieve the same thing with chi-gung, the Wands only get there quicker. Don’t know were to start? There is no shortcut, it took me years to work this all out, I can only give you a head start, from there it is up to you. I think you sign-off says it all.

John,

posted 02-15-2003 12:12         

Khulk, the wands do produce an effect. I can attest to that. I personally have the KONT, but as the article said the Crystal will have a more lasting effect. Think of it like making your body a more effective electromagnet, the crystal/other materials(copper/zinc)act as aether attractors and your body processes the extra inflowing of energy, which in turns raises your level of harmonic vibration, and the higher the vibration the closer you are to the source which vibrates (at least in our galaxy/space-time) as pure plasma/love/light/energy. This allows you to be more receptive to the instreaming infinate wisdom, which is always present but we have become not as good receptors. Thats just my understanding (and I'm a little hungover from V day so my brain isn't working at full capacity), I'm sure it is much more beautiful than my words can possibly portray.

Peace.
Love.
Light.

posted 02-15-2003 16:37         

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posted 02-15-2003 23:16         

Ohh but check this out. I met a guy who can punch out a candle from four feet away!! Crazyness... like Crouching Tiger kind of stuff. And I saw a preveiw for the new Chow Yung Fat movie called "Bulletproof Monk," and it looked pretty cool as well.

Peace.
Love.
Light.

posted 02-16-2003 12:14         

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posted 02-17-2003 16:59         

The current conversation is not entirely unrelated, if as I assert, Big Foot is a manifestation of an earth spirit.

I note in the previous postings that the only evidence is sight, impressions and I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned odour. Material evidence such as hair, a body etc. are missing.

There has just been discussions on blowing out candles from a distance. This is direct manipulation of the material plane, i.e. footprint impressions.

posted 02-17-2003 19:43         

Several witnesses in Oregon have described
a foul odor.

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posted 02-18-2003 12:08         

Peace.
Love.
Light.

posted 02-18-2003 19:52         

Heres some maps of the grid:
http://www.vortexmaps.com/
http://ascension2000.com/Convergence/9918.html

I've got more in the book: Anti-Gravity and the World Grid http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0932813038/qid=1045623083/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9372008-4003946?v=glance&s=books

And as for bigfoot sightings:
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/

Let's all check it out..

Peace.
Love.
Light.

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posted 02-19-2003 13:37         

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posted 02-28-2003 22:03         

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posted 03-08-2003 11:50         

2003 -
To follow is the tentative Bigfoot Conference schedules
for this year:
April 5, 2003
Ohio Bigfoot Conference/Expo
Hosted by Don Keating and the EOBIC -Newcomerstown, Ohio
Guest Speakers Ron Schaffner, Ohio and John Kirk, Burnaby, British Columbia, Leading world's Cryptozoologist-author.
Official Event website: http://www.angelfire.com/oh/ohiobigfoot/abc.html
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May 17-18, 2003
International Bigfoot Society's Convention in Hillsboro, Oregon
According to Director Ray Crowe, the keynote speaker will be
Francois de Sarre of Nice, France
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June 28, 2003
Southern Crypto Conference Saturday June 28th
Hosted by Chester Moore Jr., the Cryptokeeper in Conroe, Texas http://www.cryptokeeper.com/conference.htm

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September 2003
Pennsylvania: The Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society is proud to sponsor the 5th Annual East Coast Bigfoot Confernece.

When: September 27, 2003 Noon til 5:00 pm, doors open at 11:00 am.
Where: Pitzers Townhouse 101 S. 5th st. Jeannette PA 15644
Who: Guest Speakers: Tenative and subject to change are Paul Johnson and
Eric Altman. More speakers to be announced once confirmed. Misc: The event is free and open to the public. There will be a Bigfoot Auction and tables with Bigfoot displays and items for sale. For more updates and information contact the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society Hosted by Eric Altman, or 724-374-5555 or check out our website on line at http://www.pabigfootsociety.com
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September 12 & 13 2003
The BFRO meeting at the Willow Creek-China Flats Bigfoot Museum in
Willow Creek, California has scheduled speakers who are all known
curators, field persons or scientific affiliates of the BFRO.

Bigfoot Museum address and hours:
PO Box 102
Willow Creek, CA 95573
530-629-2653
Museum Hours: Friday, Saturday and Sunday plus holidays,
10 a.m. to 4 p.m--First weekend in May through first weekend in October. . .