THE TRUE HISTORY OF HUMANITY
by Andrew T Hennessey
http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol19/articles/humanity-history.html

Here is a timeline which demonstrates that the Early Bronze phase occured 300 years earlier for the Cyclades (relative to Crete): http://www.lfc.edu/academics/greece/BrzAgeTL.html

Grotta Peylos culture was contemporary with Dynasty 0 in Egypt. Then Early Cycladic II (Keros-Syros culture) was the most prosperous period for Early Cyclades culture: and it was contemporary with the great pyramid building Dynasties 1-5 in Egypt.

By contast, Minoan Crete blossomed and became wealthy around 2000 BC (i.e. After the 1st intermediate period of Egypt).

Such a connection would travel past the Rio Tinto copper mines (in southwest Spain), which are known to have been in production at that time.

Here is a quote from Atlas of Ancient Archaeology, by Jacketta Hawkes,p.90, about the beginnings of metal culture in Portugal:
"During the early part of the 3rd millenium BC, a highly original Copper Age culture distinguished by local types of ritual objects, usually made of limestone, quite different from the engraved slate plaques and croziers of the contemporary Alemtejan megaliths, fluorished around the Tagus estuary. Some of the finer pottery associated with this culture SUGGESTS CONTACTS WITH THE CYCLADES CIVILIZATION of the east Mediterranean."

Whatever those trading connections may have been, they strongly resemble the legend of Atlantis, and its incursion into the Mediterranean -- if we choose to favor a date around 2800 BC.

The earliest log boat at present known comes from the Netherlands and dates to around 7000 BC,

"the awareness has grown that during the 4th millennium BC there developed a belief system, shared from Portugal to Shetland, that involved the construction of megalithic collective tombs and the use, in ritual contexts, of a highly distinctive art."

Stonehenge Origins?
http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba63/feat2.shtml

This is also a good site on those ritual stones throughout France,Iberia and Britain from the MESOLITHIC and NEOLITHIC eras.

Quite fascinating.
http://www.crookscape.org/prelo/mac/txmac2eng.htm

Beautiful pictures with the Pillar in the Sky.(Jebel Zagora)
A nice Canal.
Continue to the Barbaric Temples.

They also worship Athena.
http://lexicorient.com/morocco/zagora01.htm

Conveniently located behind the Atlas mountains in a nice little rift valley.

Route of an Atlantean migration to Atalantes. (Herodotus,Critias).

I really enjoyed the link you gave about the standing stones and associated megalithic culture in Alantejo. But aside from having the greatest concentration of megalithic remains anywhere in Portugal -- this region was also known in classical times as the Sacred Promontory. The Phoenicians are reported to have built an altar, or outdoor sanctuary, to Baal Hammon (or perhaps Hammom) on the Sagres Peninsula. The gods were belived to visit this promontory at night. Here is a link about the Sacred Promontory: http://www.ippar.pt/sites_externos/sagres/Siteing/promonto.htm

"In this island there are nine lords among them, called dukes: they are not rulers by natural law, where the son succeeds the father, but by right of the strongest. And they continually wage war among themselves, slaying each other like beasts".

Post Traumatic Atlanteans doing the Ooga
Booga.
http://medspains.stanford.edu/demo/iberian_expansion/guanches.html

More evidence of a Comet/Asteroid.
Some say Psonchis others Pateneit.
http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/hermes.html

Sorry to be late and Thanx for the complement, although I know I am not worth it.

Meanwhile you and friends have been spreading the knowledge fast like a gattling gun. My limitation is that all these are almost new information to me. I will try to come up, when I feel like getting some reasonable connections at my end. The lot of information provided by you will have to take some definite amount of time to read, reread, think, rethink and....

All the best

Your Spirit knows you are worth it.
Though your body and mind think not.
The heart seeketh thus.

Worry not as yet for the painting is just begun. The brush awaits the strokes of the Artist. Through the eye of the unknown.
He sits in comfort of the trees,shaden from the Sun. All the colors he sees,soon to come undone. Scattered in earthen stones of the past like seeds that are sown. Some small,some tall,some not even at all.

So like the easel and canvas we await the Artists picture. Not knowing what the Artist will paint nor where comes his vision. So in comfort we too sit picking up the stones to paint the picture hidden from the truth.

One of the paintings I want to create for everyone is the people and their lifestyles surrounding Atlantis.
So we too can feel comfortable in this quest for Atlantis. Be they masters or young apprentices for they all seek the truth. So worry not of having answers but wet thy brush to paint!!

Here's a link to Oxfords Manuscript on Calcidius who first interpretated Timaeus in Latin.

It's the MS DIGBY 23 link.

Guess I missed a good program Atalante. 80,000 bC? Amazing.

Plato was in Egypt in 393 BCE and his work reveals a general familiarity with Egyptian culture. In Philebus, a discourse on language, he alluded to the legend about the Egyptian god Thoth as the inventor of letters. For the Egyptians, Thoth was the god who recorded what the creator god Ptah had created. But the Egyptians also believed that Thoth himself created by means of the word(s) he uttered.

'the unlimited variety of sound was once discerned by some god, or perhaps some godlike man [...] there was some such person in Egypt called Theuth. He it was who originally discerned the existence, in that unlimited variety, of the vowels and then of other things which, though they could not be called articulate sounds, yet were noises of a kind. [...] in the end he [...] affixed to the whole collection, as to each single member of it, the name 'letter' [...] so he gave utterance to the expression 'art of letters', implying that there was one art that dealt with the sounds.'

Aceramic: pre-6700/6500
Early Neolithic: 6700/6500 - 5800/5600 (Early Ceramic, Proto-Sesklo and Pre-Sesklo sub-phases)

Middle Neolithic 5800/5600 - 5400/5300 (Sesklo Culture)
Late Neolithic 5400/5300 - 4700/4500 (Dimini Culture; Tsangli-Arapi and Otzaki-Dimini sub-phases)
Final Neolithic 4700/4500 - 3300/3100

CRETE (MINOAN)
EM I 3100/3000 - 2700/2650
Old Palace (First Palaces)
MM IA 2050/2000 - 2000/1950
New Palace (Second Palaces)
MM IIIA-B 1750/1720 - 1700/1675
Subminoan 1125/1100 - after 1015
MAINLAND (HELLADIC)
EH I 3100/3000 - 2650 (Eutresis Culture)
EH IIA 2650 - 2450/2400 (Korakou Culture) (Lerna III)
EH IIB 2450/2400 - 2200/2150 (Lefkandi I)
EH III 2200/2150 - 2050/2000 (Tiryns Culture) (Lerna IV)
MH I 2050/2000 - 1900 (Early Minyan)
Mycenaean
LH I 1550 - 1500
Submycenaean 1050-1015
Neolithic
Saliagos Culture (4300-3700)
Kephala Culture (3300-3200)
Early Cycladic
EC I 3100/3000 - 2650 (Pelos-Lakkoudes Culture or Grotta-Pelos Culture);
LC III From 1390+ (Phylakopi III-iii; Keos VIII/J-M)

Troy I 3000/2900 - 2600/2550 (Western Anatolian EB 1)
Troy VIIb2 1150 - 1050

I brought down the Atlantean civilization in a past life.

I was an Atlantean. I wasn't a king, or a noble, or a holy man, or a warrior.

I was responsible for the grease and ball bearings for the Atlantean empire.

I decided one day that I had had enough, and that the empire should be brought down. So I began hoarding all the grease and ball bearings in the kingdom. I collected the ball bearings and dumped them into the sea, and the grease I disposed of in the desert.

After that the whole kingdom came to a standstill, and eventually Athens got wind of the situation and crushed Atlantis. We all know what happened next.

I asked you earlier AKATA if your memories could relate anything to the Richat structure as an experiment resulting from Atlanteans? Could this be one of their Crystal energy sites?

Erechtonius (who brought worship of Athena with him when he migrated to Attica) originally lived at Ilios/Troy, and was descended from people in the Dardanian hills around Ilios/Troy. Most people do not realize that Ilios was a suburb of Troy.

The town of Ilios was located on a spur of high ground which overlooked a large swampy plain, which was used for neolithic agriculture. Erechtonius built a Temple of Athena in Ilios, before he migrated to Attica.

By way of contrast, Troy itself was a citidel, which became used as a seat of government. http://www.troya.com.mx/Towns_Iliad/TOWNS.html

This may help to understand the so-called ancient Athena people who opposed Atlantis.

In Hittite records, the town of Ilios was described as "Wilusia". Wilusia/Ilios was a member of the Assuwa league around 1250 BC. Scholars believe that this name "Assuwa" formed the basis for the later Greek name Asia, which Greeks applied to the coastland of Anatolia. (It is also the "Asia" which Plato mentioned in regard to the size of Atlantis.)

I propose that the Wilusia people (who were obviously Athena worshipers) migrated to North Africa after their town Ilios was sacked in the Trojan War. Subsequently, the Egyptian hieroglypics called them Weshesh. And Herodotus called them Auseans.

As for the Meshwesh,I'm not sure. Perhaps our Phoenicionist Erick has an addendum?

The battle of Troy would fit closely to the Atlantis war,though missing the Egyptians.

Also,Critias standing on Delos reminiscing about the Trojan War correlates with the surroundings at Delos fueling his imagination. The statue of lions for example could relate to the most savage of beasts in Atlantis,the two minoan springs,the phallus statues represent Poseidon impregnating earth women, etc...

Now as we can see Athens bit the hand that fed her!!(Illios) Strange!
So it wouldn't be hard to see that they possibly were under Atlantean control at one time and revolted!!

Now this is just one of the OTHER theories we can relate to Atlantis.

But like good Atlantean citizens,we don't want to believe that right?

Somehow I feel that there's a Big Battle we're missing from Scholars,which has yet to be uncovered.(Scorpion King?) Namely the Atlantis war.
I sure would like to see the Atlantean-Egyptian link though we could be looking at it. Not to mention Thoth,which apparently at one time there was an actual Egyptian named Theuth if I recall correctly!

One of the saddest things we face is the way these Governments handle their Antiquities in the name of slimey MONEY.
There is a lot of impending evidence sitting in private collections by wealthy people. That I believe is why the most important ones are LOST or HIDDEN.

Personally I feel that all historic sites should be rebuilt and all antiquities should be in Museums only!! No wonder we become children like the Greeks with no aged ones to pass down the legends!!!

Saddly though,Money is more important than Humans. Dreadful shame.

I wonder how those filthy rich ghosts feel when they see a nickel? BooHOO!!!

See Erick has a strong viewpoint in translating Jowett or Bury to clear his vision. I think the strongest viewpoint would be to translate the oldest to newest transcriptions. Then think about it!

Lot's of work though!! I'm trying to translate Chalcidius.

Where are those darn Egyptian records in Sais? No... did Zawi sell them along with the Hall of Records to his dark brothers?,or did they use them to eat beans and coffee around the campfire?

Here is the link mentioning the Giza longtitiude and the relevant points along the line.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/concl.html

It seems quite coincidental how Cape Verde had 9 Chieftains symbolizing the remaining Princes of Atlantis. Atlas being confined to the Atlas mountains.

If I recall correctly, King Agamemnon left behind his Scepter of Tantalus in Illios(Troy). King Minos should have a Scepter also. I'm pretty sure these Scepters haven't been found yet.

This Scepter tradition seems to come from Atlantis.

The Pharoahs had Maceheads (Scepters).

There should be 10 Scepters......somewhere.

Atlas' Scepter is probably in the temple of Poseidon. Could we find 10 Poseidon temples in each of the Twins names?

Forming the Twin stars of Gemini,the wise one.

Now if we connect the dots...

Just a little Galilleo for you.
www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3 Atext%3A1999.01.0180&layout=&query=section%3D%23752&loc=Criti.%20114c

The Sekhem Scepter(Egypt)
http://home.san.rr.com/egyptianmyths/sekhem.htm

[This message has been edited by Riven (edited 08-28-2003).]

Look at this map
http://medspains.stanford.edu/demo/iberian_expansion/cortes.html

In regard to a "scepter of Tantalus":

Pelops migrated from Smyrna/Izmir Turkey to the Peloponesian Peninsula, to which he gave his name. (Previously it had been called the Apian peninsula.)

Agamemnon's ancestors had married into the Pelopid family. Since Tantalus was the father of Pelops -- it followed that Agamemnon considered himself to be a descendent of the kingdom of Smyrna Turkey.

This explains why Aggamemnon had a scepter of Tantalus.

There is an interesting book, written by Peter James, entitled The Sunken Kingdom, which proposes that Tantalus was equivalent to Atlas (and hence Smyrna Turkey could be regarded as Atlantis). http://www.knowledge.co.uk/xxx/cat/james

I am NOT inclined to agree that Smyrna was Atlantis. But obviously a rivalry existed between Ilios and Smyrna (in Turkey); and that rivalry continued among their western colonies Athens vs Peloponesian Sparta, respectively.

Perhaps that rivalry explains some of the themes behind the Trojan War -- the abduction of Hellen, followed by the sack of Ilios.

Here is a link to Cape Verde islands with some nice pictures. The islands of Sal,Boa Vista and Maio could be remnants of the Atlantean plain. In some of the pictures you'll also see some strange pyramidial mounds. In Sal island on the east coast lies Pedra Lume (Fire Rock)which is a circular crater and salt quarry.

The Canary islands to the north are more mountainous in general as are the west islands of Cape Verde(Fogo,Brava,Sao Antao,S.Vincente.)

AMPHERES-Sicily/Sardinia/Italy
EVAEMON- Algeria/Tunisia/Libya/(Atalantes,Garamantes/Ammonium/Capsians)

MNESEUS-Minoan Crete/King Minos/Amnisus.
AUTOCHTHON-Argos/Attica,Cycladean(Greeks.

ELASSIPUS-Ephaesus/Ionia/Caria(Turkey).
MESTOR-Phoenicia/Syria

AZAES-Mauretania,(Azas/Azamor)
DIAPREPES-Egypt/Nubians.

Based on Atlantean migration from 10,840 bC.
Countries Liberated after Great Battle and Atlantis sinking. 2850-9600 bC.

Georgeos Montexanos finds exceed
expectations.Artifacts found.
National Geographic ready for input.
Press announcement soon.

The Canary islands to the north are more mountainous in general as are the west islands of Cape Verde(Fogo,Brava,Sao Antao,S.Vincente),as well Madeira and Azores islands.
http://www.caboverde.com/ilhas/ysal-it.htm

Also NNE of Sal about 250 miles in the Ocean could possibly lie Poseidon's Temple in the bottom right corner of the Pyramid lines on the ocean floor. As per this satellite pic..;
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/image/2minsurface/45N045W.html