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http://home.netcom.com/~mokeeffe2/AquarianGospelSinglePage.htm#AGtext

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And Peter said,
You people of Jerusalem, and you who live beyond the city's gates; Peace be to you, and all mankind.
11) This is the time that holy men of old desired to see, by faith they saw this hour, and now they stand with us in ecstasy.
12) The prophet Joel in olden times told of the things you see and hear. The Holy Breath spoke with his tongue and said,
13) And it shall come to pass in latter days, that I will breathe upon the sons of men, and fill them with the blessedness of holiness.
14) Your sons and daughters will stand forth and prophesy; your young men will be seers; your old men will dream dreams.
15) And I will show wonders in the heavens above, and marvelous signs in earth.

16) Sounds will proceed from heaven and voices will be heard that men will fail to comprehend.

17) The sun will fail to shine; the moon will wade in blood before the coming of the great day of the Lord.

18) And it will come to pass that they who call upon the name of God in faith shall be redeemed.

Seems like our days, the latter days and did you notice "marvelous signs in earth." like the ancient places of which are signs in the Latter days. And people wont understand nor comprehend and the bloodshed will continue and illumination and enlightenment of the signs may fail on earth generally. But there is an escape plan for those who believe.

and this one

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5) God speaks to man, not by an oracle of wood and gold, but by the voice of man.
6) The gods have spoken to the Greeks, and kindred tongues, through images made by man, but God, the One, now speaks to man through Christ the only son, who was, and is and evermore will be.
7) This Oracle shall fail; the Living Oracle of God, the One, will never fail.

That's why I believe this oracle will not fail because its a living oracle of day by day as we sail to the ancient places. Like the preparation in the revealment of the former things.

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Here is Urantia Book link into Lao Tze

It describes the Tao more fully and its evolution.

The Urantia Book fragment describing Tao in its evolution.

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6. LAO-TSE AND CONFUCIUS
About six hundred years before the arrival of Michael, it seemed to Melchizedek, long since departed from the flesh, that the purity of his teaching on earth was being unduly jeopardized by general absorption into the older Urantia beliefs. It appeared for a time that his mission as a forerunner of Michael might be in danger of failing. And in the sixth century before Christ, through an unusual co-ordination of spiritual agencies, not all of which are understood even by the planetary supervisors, Urantia witnessed a most unusual presentation of manifold religious truth. Through the agency of several human teachers the Salem gospel was restated and revitalized, and as it was then presented, much has persisted to the times of this writing.

Lao-tse also made one of the earliest presentations of the doctrine of returning good for evil: "Goodness begets goodness, but to the one who is truly good, evil also begets goodness."

He taught the return of the creature to the Creator and pictured life as the emergence of a personality from the cosmic potentials, while death was like the returning home of this creature personality. His concept of true faith was unusual, and he too likened it to the "attitude of a little child."

His understanding of the eternal purpose of God was clear, for he said: "The Absolute Deity does not strive but is always victorious; he does not coerce mankind but always stands ready to respond to their true desires; the will of God is eternal in patience and eternal in the inevitability of its expression."

And of the true religionist he said, in expressing the truth that it is more blessed to give than to receive: "The good man seeks not to retain truth for himself but rather attempts to bestow these riches upon his fellows, for that is the realization of truth. The will of the Absolute God always benefits, never destroys; the purpose of the true believer is always to act but never to coerce."

Lao's teaching of nonresistance and the distinction which he made between action and coercion became later perverted into the beliefs of "seeing, doing, and thinking nothing." But Lao never taught such error, albeit his presentation of nonresistance has been a factor in the further development of the pacific predilections of the Chinese peoples.
action and coercion but not "seeing, doing, and thinking nothing." here is a correction in the attitude! for the religion. The above seems to highlight the best in the above Chinese religion.

and more in the paper

Confucius (Kung Fu-tze) was a younger contemporary of Lao in sixth-century China. Confucius based his doctrines upon the better moral traditions of the long history of the yellow race, and he was also somewhat influenced by the lingering traditions of the Salem missionaries. His chief work consisted in the compilation of the wise sayings of ancient philosophers. He was a rejected teacher during his lifetime, but his writings and teachings have ever since exerted a great influence in China and Japan . Confucius set a new pace for the shamans in that he put morality in the place of magic. But he built too well; he made a new fetish out of order and established a respect for ancestral conduct that is still venerated by the Chinese at the time of this writing.

The Confucian preachment of morality was predicated on the theory that the earthly way is the distorted shadow of the heavenly way; that the true pattern of temporal civilization is the mirror reflection of the eternal order of heaven. The potential God concept in Confucianism was almost completely subordinated to the emphasis placed upon the Way of Heaven, the pattern of the cosmos.

The teachings of Lao have been lost to all but a few in the Orient, but the writings of Confucius have ever since constituted the basis of the moral fabric of the culture of almost a third of Urantians. These Confucian precepts, while perpetuating the best of the past, were somewhat inimical to the very Chinese spirit of investigation that had produced those achievements which were so venerated. The influence of these doctrines was unsuccessfully combated both by the imperial efforts of Ch'in Shih Huang Ti and by the teachings of Mo Ti, who proclaimed a brotherhood founded not on ethical duty but on the love of God. He sought to rekindle the ancient quest for new truth, but his teachings failed before the vigorous opposition of the disciples of Confucius.

and....

But the Salemites did not labor in vain. It was upon the foundations of their gospel that the great philosophers of sixth-century China built their teachings. The moral atmosphere and the spiritual sentiments of the times of Lao-tse and Confucius grew up out of the teachings of the Salem missionaries of an earlier age.

fascinating paper and widens the view point more knowing that this teaching had influences in the Essenes thoughts as expressed by Solame.

Lao-Tse
b. 604 BC
http://www.thenagain.info/WebChron/China/LaoTse.html

Right around the time Atlantis was recorded by Plato wasnt it?

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Dao De Jing - Chapter 66 (I have to chuckle to myself as the name Dao de Jing looks, written and sounds like my name ahaha)
If the sage would guide the people, he must serve with humility.
If he would lead them, he must follow behind.
In this way when the sage rules, the people will not feel oppressed;
When he stands before them, they will not be harmed.
The whole world will support him and will not tire of him.
Because he does not compete,
He does not meet competition.

and

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Lao-Tse b. 604-531 BCE

Little is known of the history of Lao Tzu. He was a native of Ch'ü-jen, which is in the modern day Honan Province, China. His given name was Li Erh; the name Lao Tzu means "old sage" or "old boy".

The author of the "Dao De Jing" (Tao Te Ching), Lao Tzu, kept the Imperial Archives of the Court of Chou, in the province of Honan in the sixth century, B.C. Some historical records indicate that he had personally instructed Confucius and was an elderly contemporary, although others claim that he passed away before the birth of Confucius.


Here is a urantia book connection

to this piece of knowledge "that he had personally instructed Confucius and was an elderly contemporary,"

and this piece from the Urantia Book 1934

Confucius (Kung Fu-tze) was a younger contemporary of Lao in sixth-century China.

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and here is an old post regarding the circle religion in China and the emblem of the Melchizedeks ensign.

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/urantia-clues4.htm#Hi long download

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The temple of Heaven in Beijing note the 3 concentric circles. Where did that circle truth come from? Not from any religions we know today. How did they evolve the symbol of the 3 concentric circles around 700BC, 100 years before Plato? Through there own religion of the past?

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and the main temple of Heaven. Again the concentric circles. Why? the concentric circles in China? Where did that come from, Was it the perpetuation of the Melchizedeks ensign that persisted in the Shangdi religion

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I believe the latest posts offer a great connection and threads for the Chinese people to explore. The paths could provide the path for the Chinese people in bringing together the Melchizedek truths from the past in their books and combine them with the Urantia Book and with the Bible and all other books for a great oneness and uplift.

This journey provides a good viechle for the chinese people in a revival of spiritual truth that links back to 4000BC to the Melchizedek truth and connects thier past into today with an upgrade of religion through this journey to the places and with the new book the Urantia Book.

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And More

http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/tung.htm
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Alongside the development of Taoism as a philosophy another more strictly religious interpretation of Taoism was evolving. This "religious" Taoism had its own temples, priests, rites and symbolic images. Lao Tzu was venerated as a "saint" and imperial sacrifices were made to him. It drew strongly upon the ideas of yin-yang and of the "Five Agents" (metal, wood, water, fire & earth). During this time there began to develop a pantheon of Taoist deities that were often venerated as gods. So prominent were astrology, alchemy and divination in this stream of Taoism that it had veered away from philosophy to occultism. This movement was sometimes known as Huang-Lao after the legendary Yellow Emperor, Huang-ti and Lao Tzu.
The symbol of the Yin/Yang

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and remember this fragment in the Urantia Book about Huang Ti

The Ub fragment
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The influence of these doctrines was unsuccessfully combated both by the imperial efforts of Ch'in Shih Huang Ti and by the teachings of Mo Ti, who proclaimed a brotherhood founded not on ethical duty but on the love of God. He sought to rekindle the ancient quest for new truth, but his teachings failed before the vigorous opposition of the disciples of Confucius.
Very nice connection of Huang Ti in history and Ch'in Shih Huang Ti in the Urantia Book with his role, a connection for the Chinese people in the upgrade of religion.

and more fragments from the the above link that link Haung Ti to the Chin dynasty directly found in the Urantia Book.

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From this form of Taoism emerged very strong alchemical currents as Taoist practitioners (much like Western mystics a millennium later) at the court of Shih Huang-ti of the Qin (Ch'in) dynasty (221-207 BC) tried to cultivate powers that would transform base metals to gold, and hence would serve as a metonym for the transformation of human qualities to the transcendent. These practitioners were also acclaimed as spirit mediums and experts in levitation .
Obviously, degradation of Lao Tze writings where being degraded from the Melchizedek truth at this time 221-207 BC.

I remember sometime ago I heard the Chinese Government was finding a path back to their roots in religion reviving Buddhism. I believe in this serious of posts are the threads and connections that could lead to paths of knowledge that would upgrade the whole Chinese people in a new and revitalized religion that would combine the past with the future and they, the whole race could come on an expedition to prove the truth of the matter.

Now about Mo Ti

Here is a fragment I found on the net


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MO-TI
c.472 - c.391 BC
Chinese Philosopher
Mo-ti, or Mo-tzu, was a Chinese philosopher whose doctrine of universal love challenged Confucianism for a considerable time during China's history.

Mo-ti was first a Confucianist but became increasingly attracted for a life of simplicity. His ideas challenged the special claims of parental authority.

Mo-ti developed the idea of an utopian state, and he also introduced logical systems into Chinese philosophy.
web page

Now look what the Urantia Book says

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The teachings of Lao have been lost to all but a few in the Orient, but the writings of Confucius have ever since constituted the basis of the moral fabric of the culture of almost a third of Urantians. These Confucian precepts, while perpetuating the best of the past, were somewhat inimical to the very Chinese spirit of investigation that had produced those achievements which were so venerated. The influence of these doctrines was unsuccessfully combated both by the imperial efforts of Ch'in Shih Huang Ti and by the teachings of Mo Ti, who proclaimed a brotherhood founded not on ethical duty but on the love of God. He sought to rekindle the ancient quest for new truth, but his teachings failed before the vigorous opposition of the disciples of Confucius.

Like many other spiritual and moral teachers, both Confucius and Lao-tse were eventually deified by their followers in those spiritually dark ages of China which intervened between the decline and perversion of the Taoist faith and the coming of the Buddhist missionaries from India.


During these spiritually decadent centuries the religion of the yellow race degenerated into a pitiful theology wherein swarmed devils, dragons, and evil spirits, all betokening the returning fears of the unenlightened mortal mind. And China, once at the head of human society because of an advanced religion, then fell behind because of temporary failure to progress in the true path of the development of that God-consciousness which is indispensable to the true progress, not only of the individual mortal, but also of the intricate and complex civilizations which characterize the advance of culture and society on an evolutionary planet of time and space.

Another interesting connection in the timeline of events that affected the the Tao truths.

All good for the uplift of Chinese religion with book from the Kingdom of Heaven.

and here is the direct message for the Chinese People for today and their religion.

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in the true path of the development of that God-consciousness which is indispensable to the true progress, not only of the individual mortal, but also of the intricate and complex civilizations which characterize the advance of culture and society on an evolutionary planet of time and space.
Some links Mo Ti
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/CHPHIL/MOTZU.HTM

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http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/tung.htm

The Emperor's legacy

Chinese civilization owes much to the legendary ruler. Agriculture and husbandry simultaneously developed in the ancient times when Huang-ti ruled. Silkworm raising was accomplished earliest in China. Yue Jue Shu says Emperor Huang-ti started the silk clothing industry and cultivated mulberry (for silkworms) and hemp; as the Chinese archaeologists state "it is from historical records" (Selections of Chinese Relics and Archaeology, Foreign Languages Press, Beijing, 1995). We should be grateful that at least some historical records reach to us from the mists of time. Ancient scribes took care to leave us an incredible tale of a very strange being, the one they called the "Yellow Emperor."

And it was in Huang-ti's age that the most ancient Chinese writing was "invented."

So the Chin Dynasty was going through some age of enlightenment soon after Lao Tze and Confucious.

Now the Chinese people go back 4000years through there records in archaeology, this brings closer to the time of Melchizdek in Salem 2000 years before. The Shang people as I understand had strong influence in the China in those ancient times.

and apparently they may have had Sumerian influence with the Shang People which I can understand.

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They were a record of a people who called themselves Shang, and ruled lands surrounding Anyang some four thousand years ago. The objects embedded in the fields of Hsiao T'un came not from dragons but from tortoises and cattle. Shang kings desired to glimpse into the future, and their diviners inscribed the royal inquiries on a carefully scraped and polished tortoise shell or ox blade or leg bone.

Years later the People's Republic of China archaeologists uncovered thousands more Shang oracle bones. Corps of learned people created a whole new branch of linguistic study, Jia gu shu, the study of shell and bone writing. As scholars pored over the writings of ancient diviners, they reached a provocative conclusion: Shang writing was not the oldest Chinese writing, not by a thousand years at least. The characters used then were already so sophisticated that they undoubtedly had many centuries of development behind them. Very little is known pre-Shang writing. The Shang Dynasty (1766-1122 BC) is the first documented era of ancient China. The highly developed hierarchy consisted of a king, nobles, commoners, and slaves. The capital city was Anyang, in north Henan Province.

Some scholars have suggested that travelers from Mesopotamia and from Southeast Asia brought agricultural methods to China, which stimulated the growth of ancient Chinese civilization . If so, there may be a direct connection with Sumer.

The Shang peoples were known for their use of jade, bronze, horse-drawn chariots, ancestor worship, and highly organized armies . A significant aspect of China is its long cultural and national history. The Chinese people have shared a common culture longer than any other group on Earth. The Chinese writing system dates back almost 4,000 years.

very interesting!

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5. THE STRUGGLE FOR TRUTH IN CHINA
As the Salem missionaries passed through Asia, spreading the doctrine of the Most High God and salvation through faith, they absorbed much of the philosophy and religious thought of the various countries traversed. But the teachers commissioned by Melchizedek and his successors did not default in their trust; they did penetrate to all peoples of the Eurasian continent, and it was in the middle of the second millennium before Christ that they arrived in China. At See Fuch, for more than one hundred years, the Salemites maintained their headquarters, there training Chinese teachers who taught throughout all the domains of the yellow race.

It was in direct consequence of this teaching that the earliest form of Taoism arose in China, a vastly different religion than the one which bears that name today. Early or proto-Taoism was a compound of the following factors:

1. The lingering teachings of Singlangton, which persisted in the concept of Shang-ti, the God of Heaven. In the times of Singlangton the Chinese people became virtually monotheistic; they concentrated their worship on the One Truth, later known as the Spirit of Heaven, the universe ruler. And the yellow race never fully lost this early concept of Deity, although in subsequent centuries many subordinate gods and spirits insidiously crept into their religion.

2. The Salem religion of a Most High Creator Deity who would bestow his favor upon mankind in response to man's faith. But it is all too true that, by the time the Melchizedek missionaries had penetrated to the lands of the yellow race, their original message had become considerably changed from the simple doctrines of Salem in the days of Machiventa.

3. The Brahman-Absolute concept of the Indian philosophers, coupled with the desire to escape all evil. Perhaps the greatest extraneous influence in the eastward spread of the Salem religion was exerted by the Indian teachers of the Vedic faith, who injected their conception of the Brahman--the Absolute--into the salvationistic thought of the Salemites.

and now information about Haung de

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor

at around the time when the Melchizedek truth was spreading to China.

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Yellow Emperor
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Huangdi

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Chinese: 黄帝
Hanyu Pinyin: Huángdě
Literal meaning: Yellow emperor
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Mandarin
- Hanyu Pinyin: Huángdě
- Wade-Giles: Huang2 ti4

Huangdi, or the Yellow Emperor, is a legendary Chinese sovereign and cultural hero who is considered in Chinese mythology to be the ancestor of all Han Chinese . One of the legendary Five Emperors, it was written in the Shiji by historian Sima Qian (145 BC-90 BC) that the Huangdi reigned from 2697 BC to 2598 BC. He emerged as a chief deity of Taoism during the Han Dynasty (202 BC-220 AD). The legend of his victory in the war against Emperor Chi You at the Battle of Zhuolu is seen as the establishment of the Han Chinese nationality.

Among his many accomplishments, Huangdi has been credited with the invention of the principles of Traditional Chinese medicine. The Huangdi Neijing (黄帝内經 Inner Canon of Huangdi) was supposedly composed in collaboration with his physician Qibo. However, modern historiographers generally consider it to have been compiled from ancient sources by a scholar living between the Zhou and Han dynasties, more than 2,000 years later.

His interest in natural health and preventing and treating diseases, according to historical sources, meant he lived to the age of 100, and attained immortality after his physical death.

and this part from the Urantia working on the timeline of Huangdi

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and it was in the middle of the second millennium before Christ that they arrived in China.

and

Huangdi reigned from 2697 BC to 2598 BC.

apparently in Chinese early Salemites religion the Land of the Gods to the West, this ultimately points to Dalamatia City and 1Eden where the Sons Gods did live.

A fragment on page search of Western Paradise another name for Land of the Gods.

https://eee.uci.edu/faculty/losh/resources/in-class/JTWglossary.html

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QUEEN MOTHER OF THE WEST the Taoist goddess who rules over the western paradise and is the head of a pantheon of goddesses and female immortals. In her garden, she grows the peaches of immortality. Page 39.

and this connection with the Urantia Book regarding the Land of the Gods in Chinese early religion.

Land of the Gods that relates to Western Paradise.

line 141: The later waves of Andites brought with them certain of the cultural advances of Mesopotamia; this is especially true of the last waves of migration from the west. They greatly improved the economic and educational practices of the northern Chinese; and while their influence upon the religious culture of the yellow race was short-lived , their later descendants contributed much to a subsequent spiritual awakening. But the Andite traditions of the beauty of Eden and Dalamatia did influence Chinese traditions; early Chinese legends place "the land of the gods" in the west .

and another fragment of reflections of Taoism.

http://www.tparents.org/library/unification/books/world-s/WS-05-01.htm

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Tao gave them birth; The power of Tao reared them, Shaped them according to their kinds, Perfected them, giving to each its strength. Therefore of the ten thousand things there is not one that does not worship Tao and do homage to its power. Yet no mandate ever went forth that accorded to Tao the right to be worshipped, nor to its power the right to receive homage. It was always and of itself so.

Therefore as Tao bore them and the power of Tao reared them, made them grow, fostered them, harbored them, brewed for them, so you must Rear them, but do not lay claim to them; Control them, but never lean upon them, Be their steward, but do not manage them. This is called the Mysterious Power.

Taoism. Tao Te Ching 51

and here is another link where it connects Chinese religion to the land of Gods in the West


http://www.discoveryangtze.com/Yangtzediscovery/what_to_see_in_shanghai_2.htm
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FA ZANG JIANG SI
A Buddhist Temple located at the comer of Fuxing Lu and Ji An Lu, within walking distance from Huaihai Zhong Lu and Huangpi Nan Lu metro station. It is an impressive pre-revolutionary temple. During the Cultural Revolution it was a factory, much like Chenghuang Miao was. A community of resident monks lives here. The worshippers and monks are friendly and welcome the chance to explain their faith to visitors. They belong to the Pure Land Sect which worships Amitabha Pusa or Om-i-to-fu. This sect has an almost Christian belief in an after-death rebirth in a Western Land or Pure Land similar to heaven.

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And this land to the west points to Dalamatia City and 1stEden of Cyprus both submerged.

Apprently this place is on the Yangste ze River and is most likely the location of where there was once a colony of Salemites Perhaps this is See Fuch in the Urantia and in China
FA ZANG JIANG SI maybe!!

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The supreme belief of Taoism is "Tao" (the Way), which is indescribable and beyond human perception and understanding. "Tao" is believed to be the origin of the universe, the basis of the existence of all creatures, and the laws of development and change ruling all creatures. "Tao" sublimates into the qi (vital energy or breath), and gathers to form the Three Purities, i.e., the Celestial Worthy of Primordial Beginning or Jade Purity, the Celestial Worthy of Numinous Treasure or Highest Purity, and the Celestial Worthy of the Tao and its Virtue or Supreme Purity. Below the Three Purities, the emanations of Tao are a mass of deities such as the Jade Emperor, the Four Heavenly Emperors and the Five Emperors of the Five Directions, and the immortals who humans can become through self-cultivation. Deities and immortals, models in achieving Tao, make it their duty to teach and redeem all creatures, and are therefore worshiped by the Taoism followers.
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http://english.hanban.edu.cn/english/daodejingforum/208124.htm

another link

http://www.china.org.cn/english/daodejingforum/208124.htm

and connection to Seven

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The God of the Town

Stellar Sovereigns of the Five Planets and Seven Stars

The Stellar Sovereigns of the Five Planets and Seven Stars are seven Taoist deities . The Five Planets are the Year Star (Jupiter), the Sparkling Deluder (Mars), the Grand White Star (Venus), the Chronographic Star (Mercury), and the Quelling Star (Saturn). Together with the sun and moon, they are also called the Seven Stars. Taoism worships the Seven Stars as spirits and calls them Stellar Sovereigns. In early ancient times, people began to worship the sun, moon and stars.

All connections and parallels

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Xiwang Mu. She is the highest ranking of all female deities, the Queen Mother of the West guards the Taoist Peach of Immortality. Any who partakes of this fruit (or receives the blessing of the Queen Mother of the West) attains immortality. She is almost always depicted as a stately matriarch holding one of her peaches.

http://tearoom.daozang.com/viewtopic.php?p=6903&sid=99be55c11386eec7b3aad98294f62afe

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and another great link.

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Emperor Huang-ti




Mysteries of the Yellow Emperor
Paul Stonehill

Evidence of 'Fifth Ancient Civilization' Found in China
Chinese and Japanese archaeologists claim they have discovered in China's southwestern province of Sichuan evidence of the fifth ancient civilization, Japan's Kyodo News reported Monday, October 28 1996. The evidence is an earthen stage, unearthed during a joint archaeology project and estimated to date back 4,500 years. It was found among the remains of an ancient castle near the banks of the Yangtze River 56 miles (90 km) southwest of the city of Chengdu. The archaeologists involved in the excavation project explain that the earthen stage, pointing to an advanced knowledge of construction techniques by those who built it, reinforces the possibility of a fifth civilization. The world's four oldest civilizations are known as Mesopotamia, Egypt, Indus and China's Yellow River. Carbon isotope analysis on earthenware found at the excavation site was used to help identify the age of the castle and stage.

It is a very significant discovery . We may be closer to solving the enigma of the "Yellow Emperor," Huang-ti (27th century B.C.), who, it is said, lived in those misty reaches of time before the Shang dynasty.


In the beginning

Archaeological evidence suggests that China is one of the cradles of the human race. The earliest known human in China, whose fossilized skull was unearthed in Shanxi Province in 1963, is believed to date back to 600,000 BC.

Around the 4th or 3rd millennium BC, in the New Stone Age, great changes occurred in the lives of the ancient Chinese. Larger numbers of people began living together at settled places, cultivating land, and domesticating animals. These people made polished stone tools and built shelters in pit dwellings and beehive huts that were covered with reed roofs. Such villages were found mostly in the area of the great bend of the Huang He on the North China Plain. Despite its severe winters, this area was well suited to agriculture. In fact, it closely resembled the other cradles of ancient civilizations, such as the valley of the Nile in Egypt. As we will see, this is an important fact, because there are other striking similarities between the ancient civilizations. According to Chinese tradition, the Chinese people originated in the Huang He (Hwang Ho or Yellow River) valley. The legends tell of a creator, P'an Ku, who was succeeded by a series of heavenly, terrestrial, and human sovereigns . Rice was grown in eastern China circa 5500 BC, and about five centuries later an agricultural society developed in the Huang He valley.

The Emperor's legacy

Chinese civilization owes much to the legendary ruler. Agriculture and husbandry simultaneously developed in the ancient times when Huang-ti ruled. Silkworm raising was accomplished earliest in China. Yue Jue Shu says Emperor Huang-ti started the silk clothing industry and cultivated mulberry (for silkworms) and hemp; as the Chinese archaeologists state "it is from historical records" (Selections of Chinese Relics and Archaeology, Foreign Languages Press, Beijing, 1995). We should be grateful that at least some historical records reach to us from the mists of time. Ancient scribes took care to leave us an incredible tale of a very strange being, the one they called the "Yellow Emperor." And it was in Huang-ti's age that the most ancient Chinese writing was "invented."

Like other ancient peoples, the Chinese developed unique attributes. Their form of writing, developed by 2000 BC, was a complex system of picture writing using forms called ideograms, pictograms, and phonograms. Such early forms of Chinese became known through the discovery by archaeologists of oracle bones, which were bones with writings inscribed on them. They were used for fortune-telling and record keeping in ancient China. In 1899 a small group of Chinese scholars and antiquarians collected quantities of inscribed bones from the fields around Hsiao T'un. Five years passed before enough symbols could be deciphered to reveal the true nature of the "dragon bones."
They were a record of a people who called themselves Shang, and ruled lands surrounding Anyang some four thousand years ago. The objects embedded in the fields of Hsiao T'un came not from dragons but from tortoises and cattle. Shang kings desired to glimpse into the future, and their diviners inscribed the royal inquiries on a carefully scraped and polished tortoise shell or ox blade or leg bone.
Years later the People's Republic of China archaeologists uncovered thousands more Shang oracle bones. Corps of learned people created a whole new branch of linguistic study, Jia gu shu, the study of shell and bone writing. As scholars pored over the writings of ancient diviners, they reached a provocative conclusion: Shang writing was not the oldest Chinese writing, not by a thousand years at least. The characters used then were already so sophisticated that they undoubtedly had many centuries of development behind them. Very little is known pre-Shang writing. The Shang Dynasty (1766-1122 BC) is the first documented era of ancient China. The highly developed hierarchy consisted of a king, nobles, commoners, and slaves. The capital city was Anyang, in north Henan Province. Some scholars have suggested that travelers from Mesopotamia and from Southeast Asia brought agricultural methods to China, which stimulated the growth of ancient Chinese civilization. If so, there may be a direct connection with Sumer. The Shang peoples were known for their use of jade, bronze, horse-drawn chariots, ancestor worship, and highly organized armies. A significant aspect of China is its long cultural and national history. The Chinese people have shared a common culture longer than any other group on Earth. The Chinese writing system dates back almost 4,000 years.


Ancient libraries

.The earliest known libraries were connected with palaces and temples. In China, records of the Shang dynasty were written on animal bones and tortoise shells. An early library called "The Healing Place of the Soul"; in the palace of Egypt's King Ramses II (1304?-1237 BC) at Thebes, consisted of thousands of papyrus scrolls. Among the most important libraries in the ancient Near East was the palace library of Ashurbanipal (668?-627? BC) at Nineveh in Assyria. This early type of national library, collected "for the sake of distant days" consisted of over 30,000 clay tablets. Early librarians were usually priests, teachers, or scholars. The first known Chinese librarian was the philosopher Lao Tse, who was appointed keeper of the royal historical records for the Chou rulers about 550 BC. There is a definite connection between Lao Tse and the Yellow Emperor.
Many cultures identify a sacred being as the creator of writing. In Egypt, the honor was shared by Thoth and Isis, while the ancient Greeks thanked Hermes for their writing words.
The Yellow Emperor was a highly gifted "Son of Heaven". Legend goes that he was the inventor of many things such as making clothes, manufacturing boats and vehicles, building houses and palaces, etc. He also had his court officials Lun Ling make musical instruments, Da Nao compile the Heavenly Stems and the Earthly Branches (The 10 Heavenly Stems and 12 Earthly Branches are used in combination to designate years, months, days and hours), and Ts'ang Chieh invent the Chinese characters. Thus, the Chinese tradition attributes the invention of writing to Ts'ang Chieh, a minister of the heroic "Yellow Emperor," Huang-ti.

When men first learned to write, "all spirits cried in agony, as the innermost secrets of nature were thus revealed."

That link was very interesting.

and

http://www.taoistsecret.com/taoistgod.html#1
The Three Pure Ones are the highest Deities in Taoism. “The Three Pure Ones” transcend the entire hierarchy of Taoist deities. In the middle is the ultimate highest deity of Taoism, the Primordial Heavenly Worthy. To your right is the Spiritual Treasure Heavenly Worthy, and to your left is the Supreme Way Heavenly Worthy.

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Note: the halos or circles and when the triune are sitting together, the halos make the 3 co planar circles. This is an image of Triune God, the trinity. The remnant of the Salem teachings in China that came out of See Fuch.

and the Jade emporer.
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Note the 3 co planar circles around his head!

This is the link in symbolism that links the Chinese people through there ancient Salemite influenced religion Tao to this current journey in symbolism that leads straight to the ancient places Dalamatia City and 1stEden and Vans highland headquarters, the homes of the tree of life in the evolution of the timeline of its presence on earth. I believe these series of posts uncovers a pathway of truth for the Chinese people to this uplift of religion worldwide and to the former places of old.

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The Yangtze River

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The Urantia Book

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PAPER 79 - ANDITE EXPANSION IN THE ORIENT, Oct 19 2000

line 122: Twenty thousand years ago the ancestors of the Chinese had built up a dozen strong centers of primitive culture and learning, especially along the Yellow River and the Yangtze. And now these centers began to be reinforced by the arrival of a steady stream of superior blended peoples from Sinkiang and Tibet.

The migration from Tibet to the Yangtze valley was not so extensive as in the north, neither were the Tibetan centers so advanced as those of the Tarim basin. But both movements carried a certain amount of Andite blood eastward to the river settlements.

line 139: The northern centers of culture along the Yellow River had always been more progressive than the southern settlements on the Yangtze. Within a few thousand years after the arrival of even the small numbers of these superior mortals, the settlements along the Yellow River had forged ahead of the Yangtze villages and had achieved an advanced position over their brethren in the south which has ever since been maintained.


line 156: Between 4000 and 500 B.C. the political reunification of the yellow race was consummated, but the cultural union of the Yangtze and Yellow river centers had already been effected. This political reunification of the later tribal groups was not without conflict, but the societal opinion of war remained low; ancestor worship, increasing dialects, and no call for military action for thousands upon thousands of years had rendered this people ultrapeaceful.

Urantia web search Yangtze

and a yellow river Map

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Is this See Fuch as mentioned in the Urantia Book, Is that the early name for Shanghai??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai

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Shanghai is abbreviated in Chinese as Hů (沪) or Shēn (申). The former is derived from an ancient name for Suzhou Creek, Hu Du (沪渎), while the latter is derived from the name of Chunshen Jun (春申君), a nobleman and locally-revered hero of the Chu Kingdom in the 3rd century BC whose territory included the Shanghai area. Sports teams and newspapers in Shanghai often use the character Shēn (申) in their names. Shanghai is also commonly called Shēnchéng (申城, "City of Shēn"). The city has also had various nicknames in English, including "Paris of the East" and "Queen of the Orient".
and See Fuch Urantia

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PAPER 94 - THE MELCHIZEDEK TEACHINGS IN THE ORIENT, Oct 19 2000

line 96: As the Salem missionaries passed through Asia, spreading the doctrine of the Most High God and salvation through faith, they absorbed much of the philosophy and religious thought of the various countries traversed. But the teachers commissioned by Melchizedek and his successors did not default in their trust; they did penetrate to all peoples of the Eurasian continent, and it was in the middle of the second millennium before Christ that they arrived in China. At See Fuch, for more than one hundred years, the Salemites maintained their headquarters, there training Chinese teachers who taught throughout all the domains of the yellow race.

and a search on the Yellow river to see if there connections

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PAPER 79 - ANDITE EXPANSION IN THE ORIENT, Oct 19 2000

line 42: But even in the twentieth century after Christ there are traces of Andite blood among the Turanian and Tibetan peoples, as is witnessed by the blond types occasionally found in these regions. The early Chinese annals record the presence of the red-haired nomads to the north of the peaceful settlements of the Yellow River, and there still remain paintings which faithfully record the presence of both the blond-Andite and the brunet-Mongolian types in the Tarim basin of long ago.

line 122: Twenty thousand years ago the ancestors of the Chinese had built up a dozen strong centers of primitive culture and learning, especially along the Yellow River and the Yangtze. And now these centers began to be reinforced by the arrival of a steady stream of superior blended peoples from Sinkiang and Tibet. The migration from Tibet to the Yangtze valley was not so extensive as in the north, neither were the Tibetan centers so advanced as those of the Tarim basin. But both movements carried a certain amount of Andite blood eastward to the river settlements.

line 138: About fifteen thousand years ago the Andites, in considerable numbers, were traversing the pass of Ti Tao and spreading out over the upper valley of the Yellow River among the Chinese settlements of Kansu. Presently they penetrated eastward to Honan, where the most progressive settlements were situated. This infiltration from the west was about half Andonite and half Andite.

line 139: The northern centers of culture along the Yellow River had always been more progressive than the southern settlements on the Yangtze. Within a few thousand years after the arrival of even the small numbers of these superior mortals, the settlements along the Yellow River had forged ahead of the Yangtze villages and had achieved an advanced position over their brethren in the south which has ever since been maintained.

line 156: Between 4000 and 500 B.C. the political reunification of the yellow race was consummated, but the cultural union of the Yangtze and Yellow river centers had already been effected. This political reunification of the later tribal groups was not without conflict, but the societal opinion of war remained low; ancestor worship, increasing dialects, and no call for military action for thousands upon thousands of years had rendered this people ultrapeaceful.

PAPER 81 - DEVELOPMENT OF MODERN CIVILIZATION, Oct 19 2000

line 78: The climatic destruction of the rich, open grassland hunting and grazing grounds of Turkestan, beginning about 12,000 B.C., compelled the men of those regions to resort to new forms of industry and crude manufacturing. Some turned to the cultivation of domesticated flocks, others became agriculturists or collectors of water-borne food, but the higher type of Andite intellects chose to engage in trade and manufacture. It even became the custom for entire tribes to dedicate themselves to the development of a single industry. From the valley of the Nile to the Hindu Kush and from the Ganges to the Yellow River, the chief business of the superior tribes became the cultivation of the soil, with commerce as a side line.

I see many connections there.

The following seems very close to See Fuch maybe a little speculation here.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzhou_Creek

Suzhou Creek (Chinese: 苏州河; pinyin: Sūzhōu Hé; Wade-Giles: Su-chou-ho; literally "Suzhou River") is a river in China that passes through the Shanghai city centre. It is named after Suzhou, a city in neighbouring Jiangsu province which was the predominant city in this area prior to the rise of Shanghai as a metropolis

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Changan china could this be See Fuch

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Chang'an is the name of one of the most important ancient capital cities of China. Known as the eastern terminal of the Silk Road, Chang'an is located in Shaanxi Province near Xi'An. Chang'an served as capital to the Han, Sui, and Tang dynasty leaders. The city was first constructed beginning about 200 BC at the behest of Emperor Gao Zu; it was destroyed in AD 904.

A wall encloses an area of approximately 84 square kilometers. Chang'an's most striking building is perhaps the Temple of Heaven, a pounded earth platform of four concentric rings , built during the Tang Dynasty. In 1970, a hoard of 1000 silver and gold objects, as well as jade and other precious stones called the Hejiacun Hoard was discovered at Chang'an.

Another Melchizedek feature

four concentric rings , built during the Tang Dynasty.

http://archaeology.about.com/od/cterms/g/changan.htm


Probably not See Fuch

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Another amazing discovery guided by the Urantia Book.

Great Discovery.

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PREFACE
I was born on the Kansu-Tibetan border and lived most of the first fourteen years of my life in that region. I returned to that region as a missionary under the Christian and Missionary Alliance in 1928 and, with the exception of one year (1927-1928), lived and worked among the peoples of this part of northwestern China and northeastern Tibet until 1936. The years from l923 tol925 were spent principally among the Chinese and Moslems of the region; from 1928 on I was for the most part among the Tibetans, though necessity or choice frequently sent my wife and me to the Chinese side of the border.

Our first station was Titao, in Kansu, where I was in charge of the school work of the mission. Here, as part-time courtesy teacher in the government normal school, I was fortunate enough to be in close contact with the scholars and intellectuals of the region. Other evangelical work took me on many trips through the Chinese and Moslem districts described in this paper and created many opportunities for close association with the inhabitants of the Chinese and Moslem villages. Assignment to various missions brought me in touch, as well, with some of the Moslem military and religious teachers.

http://www.case.edu/affil/tibet/booksAndPapers/EKVALL.htm

Amazing, it came out of a Missionary of the Gospel diary!

Now Honan is futher to the East and is the location of the Shaolin Monks in the province of Honan.

http://www.geocities.com/suiken000/hist.htm

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The Shaolin Temples (monasteries) are possibly the most revered and famous structures in the history of all martial arts. The history of the Shaolin order is obscure and shrouded in myth and secrecy. Even from their beginnings, they were constant targets of bandits and rebellious soldiers. According to tradition, the first Shaolin Temple was built in Honan province sometime around 500 A.D., on Shao-shih Mountain south of Songshan Mountain, 50 miles west of Zhengzhou. Traditionally, this was the original temple. The name Shaolin means "small (young) forest." There is a legend about how the Honan Temple received this name . The story goes that before the temple was built, there was a forest there. It had been cleared or burned down by orders of Emperor Hsiao of the Northern Wei Dynasty. When construction started on the temple, the emperor's gardeners planted new trees.....

Because some people are not informed, they assume there was only one Shaolin Temple. They also assume that Honan Shaolin was the greatest and grandest. But contrary to popular belief, this is not necessarily the case, although the Honan Temple in the North appears to be the original. There were 2 main temples, the Northern and the Southern.

Its interesting that this journey seems to tie in the Sholin Monks and the roots of thier beliefs into this journey.

I also like to add that there Neolithic Site in Lanchow, Kansu near the TiTao pass

Here is a link the confirm this

Neolithic Site in Lanchow, Kansu China

There are other articles but there is a price to pay.

Anyway I following the Sinkiang Route which seems to be related ot Kansu and the TiTao pass.

Here is a fragment of a book on sale where there is mention of the Sinkiang and the Ka

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Here is another vase with the same Vee triangle design.

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Note that as the years progress the design and symbols become more predominant. Perhaps evidence of Andite infusion into the general populations with their skills and knowledge.

and Dalamatia City

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Pictures of Kanzu

http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Asia/China/West/Xinjiang/Kansu/

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http://www.sacred-destinations.com/china/mogao-caves.htm

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The Mogao Caves (aka Mogao Grottoes, Caves of the Thousand Buddhas, or Caves of Dunhuang) are a system of Buddhist cave temples near the city of Dunhuang in Gansu province. They were a center of culture on the Silk Road from the 4th to the 14th centuries and contain a religious artworks spanning that entire period. There are about 600 surviving cave temples, of which 30 are open to the public.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindutash

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Finally I may have found a path may leasd to See Fuch as from the Urantia Book.

However, The right pronouncement might be be SUIFU

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CHAPTER V.
THE JOURNEY FROM CHUNGKING TO SUIFU —CHINESE INNS

CHAPTER VI.
THE CITY OF SUIFU —THE CHINA INLAND MISSION, WITH SOME GENERAL REMARKS ABOUT MISSIONARIES IN CHINA

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ON THE MAIN-ROAD TO SUIFU.

http://pratyeka.org/books/australian-in-china/

Yea! See Fuch or SuiFu or Sui Fu

The only map I can find on SuiFu is here

http://www.traveljournals.net/explore/china/map/m2680543/suifu.html

It seems further to the south in a very isolated area and is some distance from the TiTao Pass and Kansu.

Apparently the Melchizedek had a headqarters there for a 100 years.

Here is a image of SuiFu
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The Abbot of Suifu

http://www.cheirology.net/cheirologicalsociety/chingreal.htm

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Sui Caves (581-618)
The Sui dynasty was short-lived but dynamic, and the caves of this period show a marked decrease in Western influences. There was a boom in Buddhism and Buddhist art in this period, and more than 70 caves were carved out at Mogao in the laste four decades.

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/china/mogao-caves.htm

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The Sui caves dispense with the central column and replace the bold Wei brushwork with intricate, flowing lines and an increasingly extravagent use of color (including gold and silver). Statues become more stiff and inflexible and are dressed in Chinese robes.

In cave 150 (617 AD), narrative has been replaced with a repeated theme of enthroned Buddhas and Bodhisattvas. Cave 427 contains some characteristic Sui figures - short legs, long bodies (symbolizing power and divinity) and big, square heads.

and

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"At Suifu, two old cypress trees are worshipped as divinities. It is not that gods dwell in them, but that the trees themselves are gods. They are said to have been planted in the Ming Dynasty, or possibly earlier. It is asserted that they once made a pilgrimage to Mt. Omei. I have been told by aged priests who were experts in such traditions that very old trees, especially cypress trees, are able, after many ears, to develop into tree deities. There is a tendency in some localities to burn incense to aged trees or the stumps of these trees


http://xiakou.uncc.edu/chapters/belief/bodybeliefstate.htm

trees representative of immortality.

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The Urantia Book
But the Salemites did not labor in vain. It was upon the foundations of their gospel that the great philosophers of sixth-century China built their teachings. The moral atmosphere and the spiritual sentiments of the times of Lao-tse and Confucius grew up out of the teachings of the Salem missionaries of an earlier age.

Great Discoveries and pathways for future expeditions.

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The location of Suifu is quite interesting in symbolism. Its like two branches of a river that join and become one. Like the triune! and you have a large hill right in the middle of the river join.

Pictures of the Suifu Hill and the location.

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Nezha information
video
Little Nezha Fights Great Dragon Kings (Part 7)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4_f-9ODqpA

and

http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/chinese-mythology.php?deity=LI-NEZHA

Its like a triangle mountain. Look familiar and note the house of the Boy God which shows the mount had spiritual and religious significance.

Another Suifu hill view infront of the triune Hills.

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I wonder if the Boy God temple is a dorment prophecy ready to be rediscovered in truth.

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Lao-tse built directly upon the concepts of the Salem traditions when he declared Tao to be the One First Cause of all creation. Lao was a man of great spiritual vision. He taught that "man's eternal destiny was everlasting union with Tao, Supreme God and Universal King." His comprehension of ultimate causation was most discerning, for he wrote: "Unity arises out of the Absolute Tao, and from Unity there appears cosmic Duality, and from such Duality, Trinity springs forth into existence, and Trinity is the primal source of all reality." "All reality is ever in balance between the potentials and the actuals of the cosmos, and these are eternally harmonized by the spirit of divinity."

Lao-tse also made one of the earliest presentations of the doctrine of returning good for evil: "Goodness begets goodness, but to the one who is truly good, evil also begets goodness."

He taught the return of the creature to the Creator and pictured life as the emergence of a personality from the cosmic potentials, while death was like the

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returning home of this creature personality. His concept of true faith was unusual, and he too likened it to the "attitude of a little child."

His understanding of the eternal purpose of God was clear, for he said: "The Absolute Deity does not strive but is always victorious; he does not coerce mankind but always stands ready to respond to their true desires; the will of God is eternal in patience and eternal in the inevitability of its expression." And of the true religionist he said, in expressing the truth that it is more blessed to give than to receive: "The good man seeks not to retain truth for himself but rather attempts to bestow these riches upon his fellows, for that is the realization of truth. The will of the Absolute God always benefits, never destroys; the purpose of the true believer is always to act but never to coerce."

Lao's teaching of nonresistance and the distinction which he made between action and coercion became later perverted into the beliefs of "seeing, doing, and thinking nothing." But Lao never taught such error, albeit his presentation of nonresistance has been a factor in the further development of the pacific predilections of the Chinese peoples.

But the popular Taoism of twentieth-century Urantia has very little in common with the lofty sentiments and the cosmic concepts of the old philosopher who taught the truth as he perceived it, which was: That faith in the Absolute God is the source of that divine energy which will remake the world , and by which man ascends to spiritual union with Tao, the Eternal Deity and Creator Absolute of the universes.

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7. GAUTAMA SIDDHARTHA
Contemporary with Lao-tse and Confucius in China, another great teacher of truth arose in India. Gautama Siddhartha was born in the sixth century before Christ in the north Indian province of Nepal. His followers later made it appear that he was the son of a fabulously wealthy ruler, but, in truth, he was the heir apparent to the throne of a petty chieftain who ruled by sufferance over a small and secluded mountain valley in the southern Himalayas.

Gautama formulated those theories which grew into the philosophy of Buddhism after six years of the futile practice of Yoga. Siddhartha made a determined but unavailing fight against the growing caste system. There was a lofty sincerity and a unique unselfishness about this young prophet prince that greatly appealed to the men of those days. He detracted from the practice of seeking individual salvation through physical affliction and personal pain. And he exhorted his followers to carry his gospel to all the world.

Amid the confusion and extreme cult practices of India, the saner and more moderate teachings of Gautama came as a refreshing relief. He denounced gods, priests, and their sacrifices, but he too failed to perceive the personality of the One Universal. Not believing in the existence of individual human souls, Gautama, of course, made a valiant fight against the time-honored belief in transmigration of the soul. He made a noble effort to deliver men from fear, to make them feel at ease and at home in the great universe,
but he failed to show them the pathway to that real and supernal home of ascending mortals--Paradise--and to the expanding service of eternal existence.


Gautama was a real prophet, and had he heeded the instruction of the hermit Godad , he might have aroused all India by the inspiration of the revival of the Salem gospel of salvation by faith. Godad was descended through a family that had never lost the traditions of the Melchizedek missionaries.

At Benares Gautama founded his school, and it was during its second year that a pupil, Bautan, imparted to his teacher the traditions of the Salem missionaries about the Melchizedek covenant with Abraham; and while Siddhartha did not have a very clear concept of the Universal Father, he took an advanced stand on salvation through faith--simple belief . He so declared himself before his followers and began sending his students out in groups of sixty to proclaim to the people of India "the glad tidings of free salvation; that all men, high and low, can attain bliss by faith in righteousness and justice."

Gautama's wife believed her husband's gospel and was the founder of an order of nuns. His son became his successor and greatly extended the cult; he

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When proclaimed at its best, Gautama's gospel of universal salvation, free from sacrifice, torture, ritual, and priests, was a revolutionary and amazing doctrine for its time.
grasped the new idea of salvation through faith but in his later years wavered regarding the Salem gospel of divine favor through faith alone, and in his old age his dying words were, "Work out your own salvation."

it still persists as the hope of millions of human beings. And it came surprisingly near to being a revival of the Salem gospel. It brought succor to millions of despairing souls, and notwithstanding its grotesque perversion during later centuries,

Siddhartha taught far more truth than has survived in the modern cults bearing his name. Modern Buddhism is no more the teachings of Gautama Siddhartha than is Christianity the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth .

another link

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/BUDDHISM/SIDD.HTM

Varanasi or Benares?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varanasi

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Varanasi (Sanskrit: वाराणसी Vārāṇasī, pronunciation [ʋaːɾaːɳəsiː] (help·info)), also commonly known as Benares ([bə.naː.rəs]) or Banaras (Hindi: बनारस, Urdu: بنارس, Banāras pronunciation [bənɑːɾəs] (info)) and Kashi (Hindi: काशी Kāśī [kaː.ʃiː] (info)), is a city situated on the left (west) bank of the river Ganga (Ganges) in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh , regarded as holy by Hindus, Buddhists and Jains, and one of the oldest continually inhabited cities in the world[3][4].

The culture of Varanasi is closely associated with the river Ganges and the river's religious importance. The city has been a cultural and religious centre in northern India for several thousand years. A particular style of classical Hindustani music developed in Varanasi centuries ago, and many prominent Indian philosophers, poets, writers, and musicians resided or reside in Varanasi, including Kabir, Ravi Das, Munshi Premchand, Jaishankar Prasad, Acharya Ram Chandra Shukla, Pandit Ravi Shankar, Hariprasad Chaurasia, and Ustad Bismillah Khan. Tulsidas wrote his Ramacharitamanas there, and Gautama Buddha gave his first sermon at Sarnath near Kashi. Ayurveda is said to have originated at Varanasi.

Varanasi is the home of Banaras Hindu University. Residents mainly speak Kashika Bhojpuri, which is closely related to the Hindi language. People often refer to Varanasi as "the city of temples", "the holy city of India", "the religious capital of India", "the city of light", "the city of learning" and the "culture capital of India".[5]

American writer Mark Twain wrote, "Benares is older than history, older than tradition, older even than legend, and looks twice as old as all of them put together."[6]

The State of Utter Pradesh India.

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and the city of Varanasi or Benares.
 - An information confirming the location of Gutama Siddartha.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

Conception and birth
Siddhārtha was born more than 200 years before the reign of the Maurya king Aśoka (273–232 BCE).


The birth of Siddhartha, (2nd-3rd century). Siddhartha was born in Lumbini[1] and raised in the small kingdom or principality of Kapilavastu. His father was King Suddhodana[citation needed], the chief of the Shakya nation, one of several ancient tribes in the growing state of Kosala; Gautama was the family name. As was the Shakya tradition, when his mother Queen Maya fell pregnant, she returned to her father's kingdom to give birth, but after leaving Kapilvastu, she gave birth along the way at Lumbini in a garden beneath a sal tree.

and information on Kosala

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosala

Kosala (Sanskrit: कोशल) was an ancient Indian Aryan kingdom, corresponding roughly in area with the region of Oudh. In sixth century BCE, Kosala formed one of the sixteen powerful realms of India (Mahajanapadas), and its cultural and political strength earned it the status of great power. Shravasti was the capital of Kosala Kingdom between 6th century BC to 6th century AD. However, it was later weakened by a series of wars with the neighboring kingdom of Magadha and, in the 4th century BC, was finally absorbed by it.

Kosala was the setting of much Sanskrit epic literature including the Ramayana, being ruled by the Raghuvamsa (Dynasty of Raghu) the family from which Rama hails. Buddha and Mahavira, the 24th Tirthankara of Jainism, taught in the kingdom. The King of Kosala was named King Pasenadi, and who was a follower of Buddha.

and information on Lubini, its probably where his Fathers little Kingdom existed in a valley in the foothills of the Himalayas.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumbini

Lumbini (Sanskrit: लुम्बिनी, "the lovely") is a Buddhist pilgrimage site located in Rupandehi District, Lumbini Zone of Nepal, near the Indian border. It is the place where Mayadevi gave birth to Siddhartha Gautama, who later became a Buddha (Gautama Buddha), and founded the religion of Buddhism. Gautama Buddha lived between approximately 563 BCE and 483 BCE. For Buddhists, this is one of the four main pilgrimage sites based around the life of Gautama Buddha, the other three being Kushinagar, Bodh Gaya, and Sarnath.

Lumbini is located in the foothill of Himalaya [1] and 25 km east of the municipality of Kapilavastu , the place where the Buddha grew up and lived up to the age of 29. Kapilvastu is the name of place as well as the neighbouring district. Lumbini has various Buddhist temples including the Mayadevi temple and many which are presently (2007) under construction. There is also the Puskarini pond and remains of Kapilvastu palace in Lumbini. There are other sites near Lumbini where, according to Buddhist tradition, previous Buddhas were born and achieved enlightenment and died.

Here is a Map and Lumbini is located to the South.

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and here is the small secluded highland valley where Gautama Siddhartha was Born Lumbini. His father was the chieftain South or of Annapurna.

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A Royal temple in Lubini, the home of Buddha, note the circles of the temple design!

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Ashoka? Who was Ashoka?

Pillar of Ashoka in Lumbini

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The pillar of Ashoka in Vaishali.

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continuing...

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PAPER 94 - THE MELCHIZEDEK TEACHINGS IN THE ORIENT,

line 175: Buddhism prospered because it offered salvation through belief in the Buddha, the enlightened one. It was more representative of the Melchizedek truths than any other religious system to be found throughout eastern Asia.

But Buddhism did not become widespread as a religion until it was espoused in self-protection by the low-caste monarch Asoka, who, next to Ikhnaton in Egypt , was one of the most remarkable civil rulers between Melchizedek and Michael.

Asoka built a great Indian empire through the propaganda of his Buddhist missionaries. During a period of twenty-five years he trained and sent forth more than seventeen thousand missionaries to the farthest frontiers of all the known world.

In one generation he made Buddhism the dominant religion of one half the world. It soon became established in Tibet, Kashmir, Ceylon, Burma, Java, Siam, Korea, China, and Japan.

And generally speaking, it was a religion vastly superior to those which it supplanted or upstepped.

Wow! Asoka is an amazing character and who influenced some many people with his thoughts and action in Buddhism.

Here are some links to confirm Asoka

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka_the_Great

This is the emblem of Asoka

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Asoka (Devanāgarī: अशोकः, IAST: Aśokaḥ, IPA: [aɕoːkə(hə)], Prakrit Imperial title: Devanampriya Priyadarsi (Devanāgarī: देवानांप्रिय प्रियदर्शी), "He who is the beloved of the Gods and who regards everyone amiably") and Dhamma (Devanāgarī: धम्मः), "Lawful, Religious, Righteous") (304 BC – 232 BC) was an Indian emperor, of the Maurya Dynasty who ruled from 273 BC to 232 BC. Often cited as one of India's greatest emperors, Ashoka reigned over most of present-day India after a number of military conquests. His empire stretched from present-day Pakistan, Afghanistan and parts of Persia in the west, to the present-day Bengal and Assam states of India in the east, and as far south as the Mysore state. His reign was headquartered in Magadha (present-day Bihar state of India). He embraced Buddhism from the prevalent Vedic tradition after witnessing the mass deaths of the war of Kalinga, which he himself had waged out of a desire for conquest. He was later dedicated in the propagation of Buddhism across Asia and established monuments marking several significant sites in the life of Gautama Buddha.

His name "aśoka" means "without sorrow" in Sanskrit. In his edicts, he is referred to as Devānāmpriya (Devanāgarī: देवानांप्रिय)/Devānaṃpiya or "The Beloved Of The Gods", and Priyadarśin (Devanāgarī: प्रियदर्शी)/Piyadassī or "He who regards everyone amiably".

Science fiction novelist H. G. Wells wrote of Asoka:

In the history of the world there have been thousands of kings and emperors who called themselves 'their highnesses,' 'their majesties,' and 'their exalted majesties' and so on. They shone for a brief moment, and as quickly disappeared. But Ashoka shines and shines brightly like a bright star, even unto this day.

Along with the Edicts of Ashoka, his legend is related in the later 2nd century Aśokāvadāna ("Narrative of Asoka") and Divyāvadāna ("Divine narrative"), and in the Sinhalese text Mahavamsa ("Great Chronicle").

An emblem excavated from his empire is today the national emblem of India.


and here are the cities where he left his mark, his edits

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http://www.humanistictexts.org/asoka.htm

Introduction
Asoka (c. 300-232 BCE) was born into the Mauryan royal family. After his father’s death, he became in 270 BCE the ruler of an empire extending from Afghanistan to Bengal, and covering the Ganges plain and the Deccan plateau. He pushed out the boundaries of his empire during the next decade, conquering Kalinga in 262 BCE. In this way he unified nearly all of India under his rule. He converted to Buddhism in 260 BCE and thenceforth propagated ideals of tolerance, equality, and public service.

After his conversion, Asoka promulgated the main ethical teachings of the Buddha, expressed in what Asoka referred to as the Dharma. He did this by means of traveling ministers (Dharma-Mhamatras) and by having edicts setting forth his philosophy carved into stone pillars and cliff faces. He expressed remorse over the loss of life and suffering caused by his seizure of Kalinga, and decreed that in future the only form of conquest should be by the diffusion of Buddha’s teachings. In keeping with his philosophy, Asoka instituted various public works—such as the digging of wells and planting of shade trees—and attempted to provide health services for all.

What we know of Asoka’s life comes from the stone edicts, which contain his own words, and from legends that were initially handed down orally but later were set down in manuscripts. Most of the legends appear to be the words of monks anxious to impress the laity with stories of the miraculous. But there is also an account of a third Buddhist council convened by Asoka, where an attempt was made to reconcile the practices of the many different Buddhist sects emerging over three centuries.

The interpretation Asoka gave to the teachings of the Buddha can only be inferred from the inscriptions that remain. He makes no mention of the Four Noble Truths or the Eightfold Way, but emphasizes the everyday, practical parts of the latter. In general, Asoka appears to have interpreted the Dharma as law, duty, and righteousness, elaborating it as a prohibition of the killing of men or animals, a social policy of welfare, and as admonitions to observe ethical behavior and religious tolerance. That these ideals should be propagated by monuments designed to endure the centuries shows a humanistic concern that receives little emphasis in the monuments of Egypt and Babylon. Extracts from the words of Asoka contained in his edicts follow.

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and the four River valley religions from the one source influenced by the Melchizedek Missionaries in different cultures and other later prophets.


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9. THE SPREAD OF BUDDHISM
Buddhism prospered because it offered salvation through belief in the Buddha, the enlightened one. It was more representative of the Melchizedek truths than any other religious system to be found throughout eastern Asia. But Buddhism did not become widespread as a religion until it was espoused in self-protection by the low-caste monarch Asoka, who, next to Ikhnaton in Egypt, was one of the most remarkable civil rulers between Melchizedek and Michael. Asoka built a great Indian empire through the propaganda of his Buddhist missionaries. During a period of twenty-five years he trained and sent forth more than seventeen thousand missionaries to the farthest frontiers of all the known world. In one generation he made Buddhism the dominant religion of one half the world. It soon became established in Tibet, Kashmir, Ceylon, Burma, Java, Siam, Korea, China, and Japan. And generally speaking, it was a religion vastly superior to those which it supplanted or upstepped.

The spread of Buddhism from its homeland in India to all of Asia is one of the thrilling stories of the spiritual devotion and missionary persistence of sincere religionists. The teachers of Gautama's gospel not only braved the perils of the overland caravan routes but faced the dangers of the China Seas as they pursued their mission over the Asiatic continent, bringing to all peoples the message of their faith.

But this Buddhism was no longer the simple doctrine of Gautama; it was the miraculized gospel which made him a god.

And the farther Buddhism spread from its highland home in India, the more unlike the teachings of Gautama it became, and the more like the religions it supplanted, it grew to be.


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Buddhism, later on, was much affected by Taoism in China, Shinto in Japan, and Christianity in Tibet. After a thousand years, in India Buddhism simply withered and expired.

It became Brahmanized and later abjectly surrendered to Islam, while throughout much of the rest of the Orient it degenerated into a ritual which Gautama Siddhartha would never have recognized.

In the south the fundamentalist stereotype of the teachings of Siddhartha persisted in Ceylon, Burma, and the Indo-China peninsula. This is the Hinayana division of Buddhism which clings to the early or asocial doctrine.
But even before the collapse in India, the Chinese and north Indian groups of Gautama's followers had begun the development of the Mahayana teaching of the "Great Road" to salvation in contrast with the purists of the south who held to the Hinayana, or "Lesser Road."

And these Mahayanists cast loose from the social limitations inherent in the Buddhist doctrine, and ever since has this northern division of Buddhism continued to evolve in China and Japan.


Buddhism is a living, growing religion today because it succeeds in conserving many of the highest moral values of its adherents. It promotes calmness and self-control, augments serenity and happiness, and does much to prevent sorrow and mourning. Those who believe this philosophy live better lives than many who do not.

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and this good excerpt about Buddhism

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12. THE GOD CONCEPT OF BUDDHISM
The great weakness in the cosmology of Buddhism was twofold: its contamination with many of the superstitions of India and China and its sublimation of Gautama, first as the enlightened one, and then as the Eternal Buddha. Just as Christianity has suffered from the absorption of much erroneous human philosophy, so does Buddhism bear its human birthmark. But the teachings of Gautama have continued to evolve during the past two and one-half millenniums. The concept of Buddha, to an enlightened Buddhist, is no more the human personality of Gautama than the concept of Jehovah is identical with the spirit demon of Horeb to an enlightened Christian. Paucity of terminology, together with the sentimental retention of olden nomenclature, is often provocative of the failure to understand the true significance of the evolution of religious concepts.

Gradually the concept of God, as contrasted with the Absolute, began to appear in Buddhism. Its sources are back in the early days of this differentiation of the followers of the Lesser Road and the Greater Road. It was among the latter division of Buddhism that the dual conception of God and the Absolute finally matured. Step by step, century by century, the God concept has evolved until, with the teachings of Ryonin, Honen Shonin, and Shinran in Japan, this concept finally came to fruit in the belief in Amida Buddha.


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Among these believers it is taught that the soul, upon experiencing death, may elect to enjoy a sojourn in Paradise prior to entering Nirvana, the ultimate of existence. It is proclaimed that this new salvation is attained by faith in the divine mercies and loving care of Amida, God of the Paradise in the west. In their philosophy, the Amidists hold to an Infinite Reality which is beyond all finite mortal comprehension; in their religion, they cling to faith in the all-merciful Amida, who so loves the world that he will not suffer one mortal who calls on his name in true faith and with a pure heart to fail in the attainment of the supernal happiness of Paradise.

The great strength of Buddhism is that its adherents are free to choose truth from all religions; such freedom of choice has seldom characterized a Urantian faith. In this respect the Shin sect of Japan has become one of the most progressive religious groups in the world; it has revived the ancient missionary spirit of Gautama's followers and has begun to send teachers to other peoples.

This willingness to appropriate truth from any and all sources is indeed a commendable tendency to appear among religious believers during the first half of the twentieth century after Christ.

The desire to learn has been rekindled in the hearts of the monk priests of the brotherhood, and the spread of education throughout this faith will be certainly provocative of new advances in religious evolution. Buddhism itself is undergoing a twentieth-century renaissance. Through contact with Christianity the social aspects of Buddhism have been greatly enhanced.

At the time of this writing, much of Asia rests its hope in Buddhism. Will this noble faith, that has so valiantly carried on through the dark ages of the past, once again receive the truth of expanded cosmic realities even as the disciples of the great teacher in India once listened to his proclamation of new truth? Will this ancient faith respond once more to the invigorating stimulus of the presentation of new concepts of God and the Absolute for which it has so long searched?


All Urantia is waiting for the proclamation of the ennobling message of Michael, unencumbered by the accumulated doctrines and dogmas of nineteen centuries of contact with the religions of evolutionary origin. The hour is striking for presenting to Buddhism, to Christianity, to Hinduism, even to the peoples of all faiths, not the gospel about Jesus, but the living, spiritual reality of the gospel of Jesus.

Some links into the Shin Sect

http://www.seattlebetsuin.com/Is_Shin_Buddhism_the_same_as_Christianity.htm

Here is a very interesting fragment about the characteristics of the Shin Sect confirming the Urantia Book Shin Sect Urantia Book

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Is Shin Buddhism the same as Christianity?

by Rev. Philipp Karl Eidmann

In the sixteenth century European Christian missionaries first came to China and Japan. In meeting the Buddhists of China and Japan, the missionaries saw many things that reminded them of Christianity. They saw similarities in the Buddhist and Christian services. They thought they also saw similarities in Christian and Buddhist books and doctrines.

The early Christian missionaries were disturbed by these apparent similarities. They decided that Satan had invented a counterfeit Christianity to lead people astray and to keep them from following the true Christian teachings. Later scholars discovered that in ancient days there had been Nestorian Christian churches in China. After this discovery, some Westerners came to believe that the similarities between Buddhism and Christianity were the result of the influence of Nestorian Christians.

Many Christians have thought they saw ancient Christian influence in the teachings of every sect of Buddhism. However, they have always held that this influence was strongest in the teachings of the Pure Realm schools of China and Japan.

There are a number of schools and sects which follow the Pure Realm doctrines. They differ in many minor respects, but they are all based upon the same scriptures and commentaries. About one-half of the Buddhists of China and Japan are followers of these schools.

In Western lands, too, there are many followers of Pure Realm Buddhism. One of these schools, the Hongwanji school of the Shin sect, is among the most active Buddhist missionary groups in modern times. The Hongwanji has carried the Pure Realm teachings to Siberia, Korea, Hong Kong, Malaya, the Philippines, the South Sea Islands, Hawaii, Canada, the United States, Mexico, Brazil, Peru and other countries.

another link, a very interesting article.

http://www.jref.com/culture/jodo-shin_sect_buddhism.shtml

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Step by step, century by century, the God concept has evolved until, with the teachings of Ryonin, Honen Shonin, and Shinran in Japan, this concept finally came to fruit in the belief in Amida Buddha.


Jodo Shinshu itself has many sub-sects. The largest branch is the Hongwanji-ha sect. This sub-sect is further divided into two types, Hongwanji-ha Hongwanji, shortly called Honpa Hongwanji (or more commonly, Nishi-Hongwanji) and Daiha Hongwanji, or Otani Hongwanji, more commonly referred to as Higashi-Hongwanji. None of these can be broken down further, and Nishi is the larger of the two. In the United States the Nishi-Hongwanji operates as the Buddhist Churches of America.

the ub fragment

loving care of Amida, God of the Paradise in the west.

and

Shin Buddhism is a Pure Land denomination originating in Japan in the 13th century, though Pure Land tradition and teaching has a long history going back to India.

from this http://www.shindharmanet.com/course/

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Dharmakara did indeed fulfil all his promises, the Buddha continued. He attained Buddahood, and he created his Pure Land in the West. It was full of exquisite trees and flowers and birds, and musical instruments playing of their own accord, where he himself, now called Amida Buddha, would welcome newly reborn people and show them the path to enlightenment.

The basis of the Pure Land faith, therefore, is absolute trust in the efficacy, of Amida's Forty eight Vows. Amida may have existed in the inconceivably remote past, but his Pure Land in the West still exists, and his Eighteenth and Nineteenth Vows have by no means lost their efficacy. Do not worry any longer about a terrible rebirth in hell because you find you cannot carry out daunting spiritual practices, or understand the scholastic complexities which earlier Buddhist sects draw from the Lotus Sutra or the Prajnaparamita Sutra. Simply put your trust in Amida's Vows, repeat his Name on your death bed, and you may be very sure that he will come down to meet you, with a retinue of bodhisattvas playing exquisite music, and will conduct you to his own Pure Land. And the invocation of his Name is not difficult; it is only the six syllables Namu Amida Butsu, known as the nembutsu.

from

http://www.nembutsu.info/blacker.htm

Just think that we are discovering the first Pure Land of Dalamatia City and the history of it.

And more from the link that appears to have the same metaphor as the current journey to the Land of the Tree of Life. Dalamatia City and 1Eden. It appears to have all reflections of the Land of Paradise to the West.

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A third genre of painting distinctive to the Pure Land sects is that known as Niga byakudo, the White Path between Two Rivers. Here we see a man journeying westward in the hope of finding the paradise of Amida . Suddenly he sees to his left a river of raging flames, and to his right another river of raging waters. Between the two lies a white path, so narrow that the flames from the left leap over it, and are not quenched by the waves washing from the right. Behind him, he now realises, the way is blocked by swarms of robbers and fierce wild beasts. In desperation he steps on to the White Path. At once he hears a voice from the western shore, calling him forward and promising protection. It is the voice of Amida. At once he takes courage, safely traverses the White Path to the western shore, where no fire or water or robbers can harm him.

This parable originally appeared ill Shan-tao’s famous Commentary on the Contemplation Sutra. It was often quoted by Honen to disciples wavering in their faith, and paintings of the scene too, from the thirteenth century onwards, have reassured people who fall into doubt about the efficacy of Amida's Vows.
Few Western Buddhists tend to be drawn to the Pure Land sects. Zen, Theravada and Tibetan Buddhism have proved more congenial paths for those who leave Christianity for Buddhism. The Amidist faith, they say, is too similar to Christianity to tempt them away; they might as well remain Christians. Those who have found their true path in Amida and his nembutsu, however, often declare that it is the form of Buddhism best suited to the times in which we live. For we are now indubitably in the last state of the Law, call it mappo or Kali Yuga or the Eleventh Hour, or what you will. We have to recognise, they continue, that we are less capable now of following the Buddha's Law by our own efforts than were our ancestors in the earlier stages of the cycle. As Rene Guenon memorably described the symptoms of the Reign of Quantity, our access upwards to celestial help is blocked, while the ‘fissures in the Great Wall’ below open the way for invasion by inferior subtle influences from the lower domain.

The multiple states of being are forgotten, and truth is seen as mechanised, solidified and reduced to the lowest material level of the hierarchy. In such times, it is much more difficult to ‘do it ourselves’ successfully; we would be well advised therefore to throw ourselves on the grace and mercy of Amida and his compassionate Vows.
Namu Amida Butsu is all that we have to repeat, they say, and in time we shall find that it is not we who are repeating the invocation, but Amida himself.

Seems to have all the reflections.

Dont you think the following description of the Paradise to the West has all the reflections of the current journey to the the Land of the Pure, the land of the tree of Life, the City of Dalamatia and 1stEden. The Cities and the rivers. Like the journey and what is discovered on the spiritual path and responding to the Voice of the Father from within stepping each day in faith working with the books of all religion piecing the puzzle together.

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the White Path between Two Rivers. Here we see a man journeying westward in the hope of finding the paradise of Amida . Suddenly he sees to his left a river of raging flames, and to his right another river of raging waters. Between the two lies a white path, so narrow that the flames from the left leap over it, and are not quenched by the waves washing from the right. Behind him, he now realises, the way is blocked by swarms of robbers and fierce wild beasts. In desperation he steps on to the White Path. At once he hears a voice from the western shore, calling him forward and promising protection. It is the voice of Amida. At once he takes courage, safely traverses the White Path to the western shore, where no fire or water or robbers can harm him.
At this point I just say praise the Lord!

I think making these bridges with other religions on commonality that normal people can follow is just beautiful and its leads to an upgrade of Jesus' teaching as recorded by the Angels through the Urantia Book. Teachings that redefines, widens and deepens religion for man and offers good correction but in an enlightened way where it can tested and proved. Its also brings a oneness into aspect as we closer to the great discoveries of mankind and the truth of his origins. All preparing the "Great White Path" for the great advent of Jesus, Lord and Master of Planet Urantia.

Remember the The Pure Land Sect of Buddhism is commended in accepting other religions.

All its is also commended of appropriating truth from any and all sources to bringing to bear truth.

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This willingness to appropriate truth from any and all sources is indeed a commendable tendency to appear among religious believers during the first half of the twentieth century after Christ.
The above commendation also applies to this journey to the ancient places and its construct in appropriating truth, no matter the source and how it is shared with my fellow brothers on the run.

Jesus words from the Urantia Book

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"Your Buddha was much better than your Buddhism. Buddha was a great man, even a prophet to his people, but he was an orphan prophet; by that I mean that he early lost sight of his spiritual Father, the Father in heaven. His experience was tragic. He tried to live and teach as a messenger of God, but without God. Buddha guided his ship of salvation right up to the safe harbor, right up to the entrance to the haven of mortal salvation, and there, because of faulty charts of navigation, the good ship ran aground. There it has rested these many generations, motionless and almost hopelessly stranded. And thereon have many of your people remained all these years. They live within hailing distance of the safe waters of rest, but they refuse to enter because the noble craft of the good Buddha met the misfortune of grounding just outside the harbor.

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Its seems that Buddhism has to go through an expansion to fill the missing gaps that will complete Buddhism.

yea!

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All Urantia is waiting for the proclamation of the ennobling message of Michael, unencumbered by the accumulated doctrines and dogmas of nineteen centuries of contact with the religions of evolutionary origin. The hour is striking for presenting to Buddhism, to Christianity, to Hinduism, even to the peoples of all faiths, not the gospel about Jesus, but the living, spiritual reality of the gospel of Jesus.
The hour is NOW!

Right NOW in this INSTANT! NOW! RIGHT NOW!

Thats when the time is NOW!
Through these series of Posts which makes connection with current knowledge.

These are the Paths to Chinese and Japanese religion through the paths of the Angels to the recording of Jesus' teaching as through the Urantia Book. All pathways that can be expended and developed further.

But NOW is the time for the Supernal presentations! to occur!


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In the south the fundamentalist stereotype of the teachings of Siddhartha persisted in Ceylon, Burma, and the Indo-China peninsula. This is the Hinayana division of Buddhism which clings to the early or asocial doctrine.
But even before the collapse in India, the Chinese and north Indian groups of Gautama's followers had begun the development of the Mahayana teaching of the "Great Road" to salvation in contrast with the purists of the south who held to the Hinayana, or "Lesser Road."

And these Mahayanists cast loose from the social limitations inherent in the Buddhist doctrine, and ever since has this northern division of Buddhism continued to evolve in China and Japan.

Here is some link on Mahayana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana

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Few things can be said with certainty about Mahayana Buddhism, especially its early Indian form, other than that the Buddhism practiced in China, Vietnam, Korea, Tibet, and Japan is Mahayana Buddhism.[10][11] Mahayana can be described as a loosely bound bundle of many teachings, which was thus able to contain the various contradictions found between those differing teachings of whose elements it is comprised.[12]

Mahayana is a vast religious and philosophical structure. It constitutes an inclusive faith characterized by the adoption of new, Mahayana sutras, in addition to the traditional Pali canon or Agama texts, and a shift in the basic purpose and concepts of Buddhism. Mahayana sees itself as penetrating further and more profoundly into the Buddha's Dharma. In the Mahaparinirvana Sutra, for instance, the Buddha tells of how his initial teachings on suffering, impermanence and non-Self were given to those who were still like "small children", unable to digest the full "meal" of Truth, whereas when those spiritual students "grow up" and are no longer satisfied by the preliminary ingredients of the Dharmic meal fed to them and require fuller sustenance, they are then ready to assimilate the full and balanced fare of the Mahayana teachings (Mahaparinirvana Sutra).

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http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/BUDDHISM/MAHAYANA.HTM


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Theravada Buddhism focused primarily on meditation and concentration, the eighth of the Eightfold Noble Path; as a result, it centered on a monastic life and an extreme expenditure of time in meditating. This left little room for the bulk of humanity to join in, so a new schism erupted within the ranks of Buddhism in the first century AD, one that would attempt to reformulate the teachings of Buddha to accomodate a greater number of people. They called their new Buddhism, the "Greater Vehicle" (literally, "The Greater Ox-Cart") or Mahayana, since it could accomodate more people and more believers from all walks of life. They distinguished themselves from mainstream Theravada Buddhism by contemptuously referring to Theravada as Hinayana, or "The Lesser Vehicle."

The Mahayanists, however, did not see themselves as creating a new start for Buddhism, rather they claimed to be recovering the original teachings of Buddha, in much the same way that the Protestant reformers of sixteenth century Europe claimed that they were not creating a new Christianity but recovering the original form. The Mahayanists claimed that their canon of scriptures represented the final teachings of Buddha; they accounted for the non-presence of these teachings in over five hundred years by claiming that these were secret teachings entrusted only to the most faithful followers

Its interesting to see from the outside in, all the various transformation that Buddhism has been through in the timeline of history to our time. It seem the latest transmutation was the Shin Pure land sect of Buddhism.

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Then exclaimed Ganid: "Teacher, let's you and I make a new religion, one good enough for India and big enough for Rome, and maybe we can trade it to the Jews for Yahweh." And Jesus replied: "Ganid, religions are not made. The religions of men grow up over long periods of time, while the revelations of God flash upon earth in the lives of the men who reveal God to their fellows." But they did not comprehend the meaning of these prophetic words.

That night after they had retired, Ganid could not sleep. He talked a long time with his father and finally said, "You know, father, I sometimes think Joshua is a prophet." And his father only sleepily replied, "My son, there are others--"

From this day, for the remainder of his natural life, Ganid continued to evolve a religion of his own. He was mightily moved in his own mind by Jesus' broadmindedness, fairness, and tolerance. In all their discussions of philosophy and religion this youth never experienced feelings of resentment or reactions of antagonism.

What a scene for the celestial intelligences to behold, this spectacle of the Indian lad proposing to the Creator of a universe that they make a new religion! And though the young man did not know it, they were making a new and everlasting religion right then and there--this new way of salvation, the revelation of God to man through, and in, Jesus. That which the lad wanted most to do he was unconsciously actually doing. And it was, and is, ever thus. That which the enlightened and reflective human imagination of spiritual teaching and leading wholeheartedly and unselfishly wants to do and be, becomes measurably creative in accordance with the degree of mortal dedication to the divine doing of the Father's will. When man goes in partnership with God, great things may, and do, happen.

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The Urantia Book
The sea of glass, the receiving area of Edentia, is near the administrative center and is encircled by the headquarters amphitheater.

The Melchizedeks also maintain two special colleges on Edentia. One, the emergency school, is devoted to the study of problems growing out of the Satania rebellion. The other, the bestowal school, is dedicated to the mastery of the new problems arising out of the fact that Michael made his final bestowal on one of the worlds of Norlatiadek. This latter college was established almost forty thousand years ago, immediately after the announcement by Michael that Urantia had been selected as the world for his final bestowal.

Surrounding this area are the governing centers for the seventy divisions of constellation affairs. One half of Edentia is divided into seventy triangular sections, whose boundaries converge at the headquarters buildings of their respective sectors. The remainder of this sphere is one vast natural park, the gardens of God.

The Universe Capital appears to be circular amphitheater which adjoins a triangle city, the rest of the area is parklands.

I have to say that the triangle city of Edentia is similiar in design to that of Dalamatia City, the first city submerged in the Persian Gulf.

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If this is isnt Atlantis I dont know what is!

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The Edentia sea of glass is one enormous circular crystal about one hundred miles in circumference and about thirty miles in depth . This magnificent crystal serves as the receiving field for all transport seraphim and other beings arriving from points outside the sphere; such a sea of glass greatly facilitates the landing of transport seraphim.

A crystal field on this order is found on almost all architectural worlds; and it serves many purposes aside from its decorative value, being utilized for portraying superuniverse reflectivity to assembled groups and as a factor in the energy-transformation technique for modifying the currents of space and for adapting other incoming physical-energy streams.

Which brings me to this

Is this circular structure below the Southern end of the temple of Dalamatia City a reciever of some sort? Perhaps a communication device for interdimensional space communications?? It seems to be a large circular feature next to the temple maybe a device that was used when the times where stable in the City.

Or it simply could be a junction for defense or water distribution.

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I wonder if the ruins of Nisa near the City Ashgabat was built upon the location of the ancient city of Adonia around 8000BC

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The Urantia Book

By 8000 B.C. the slowly increasing aridity of the highland regions of central Asia began to drive the Andites to the river bottoms and the seashores. This increasing drought not only drove them to the valleys of the Nile, Euphrates, Indus, and Yellow rivers, but it produced a new development in Andite civilization. A new class of men, the traders, began to appear in large numbers.


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When climatic conditions made hunting unprofitable for the migrating Andites, they did not follow the evolutionary course of the older races by becoming herders. Commerce and urban life made their appearance. From Egypt through Mesopotamia and Turkestan to the rivers of China and India, the more highly civilized tribes began to assemble in cities devoted to manufacture and trade. Adonia became the central Asian commercial metropolis, being located near the present city of Ashkhabad. Commerce in stone, metal, wood, and pottery was accelerated on both land and water.

http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Archaeology/Ashkanian/excavation_staraia_nisa.htm

http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/archaeology/ashkanian/nisa2000.htm

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http://www.sairamtour.com/centralasia/ca_07_1.html
http://homepage.mac.com/douglasm/Archive/turkmenistan/turkfour.html

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Here is a link about the Melchizedek and his office which is no different to the office of the Messiah as in the DSC.
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/107/1-3#1

I thought it was interesting!

and here is see through of the Work of John Gill Preacher 1697-1772

The below highlighted precisely points to Dalamatia City, Persian Gulf where the truth comes from and from the 1stEden, Mediterranean Sea the other place where the truth will emanate following the path of the tree of Life in former ages of the wasted places in order to heal the breach. Also all the components of the current journey to the ancient places is completely reflected in the below. Excellent discovery! this is a great confirmation of the work of the Office of the Messiah!

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12:4): this will be the time, even in the Philadelphian state, when there will be an open door set, which no man can shut (Rev. 3:8); an opportunity of preaching the gospel every where, and which will be taken and used; a wonderful door of utterance will be given to ministers of the word, who will open their mouth freely, and boldly, and with great success. The doctrines of the gospel are the living waters, so called for their refreshing and quickening nature, both to dead sinners and drooping saints, that at this time shall go out of Jerusalem, the church of God; half of them towards the former sea, or the eastern sea, as the Targum; the Persian sea , which lay east of Jerusalem, and so before it: and half of them towards the hinder sea, or the western sea, as the paraphrase; the Mediterranean sea, which lies to the west of Jerusalem, and so behind it; and both denoting the spread of the gospel in the latter day, east and west, for the conversion of the eastern nations in China, Tartary, Persia, &c., and for the conversion of the western nations in Europe; in summer and in winter shall it be (Zech. 14:8). These waters will be ever flowing, these doctrines will be constantly preaching; nor will the ministry of the word be hindered by any heat of persecution, or by any coldness or indifference to it.
The above is a small fragment of a great study from John Gill. I also have been reading his Messiah papers and I am very impressed. Very accurate to this time and the references alluding to the Persian Gulf(Dalamatia City) and the Mediterranean Sea(1stEden) clearly points to the ancient places undoubtedly and it is out of these places comes the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven and Jerusalem is right in the middle of this great presentation.

study
http://sevenfoldtruth.com/urantia-clues18.htm#Gill

Now, Im looking at the phrase The Targem which means 'translation' or 'interpretation'

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half of them towards the former sea, or the eastern sea, as the Targum; the Persian sea, which lay east of Jerusalem, and so before it: and half of them towards the hinder sea, or the western sea, as the paraphrase; the Mediterranean sea,
Note the Targums, the plural comes from the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea, in essence meaning the intepretation or the meaning.

Well all I can say that is a very big comfirmation of this on the fly journey to the ancient places! This journey has all the characteristics of the Targum that emminates out of the Sea, 2 seas which is the path of the tree of life!

The Targums

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The Targums

http://www.logos.com/targums
What are the Targums (or Targumim)?
The word 'Targum' simply means 'translation' or 'interpretation', but while any translation might call itself a 'targum', the word is usually reserved for ancient Aramaic translations of the Hebrew scriptures. The need for Aramaic translations of scripture was keenly felt as Hebrew declined in popular use during the Second Temple Period; one tradition ascribes the first targum to Ezra himself. In the earliest days, targumim were not written down, but were likely informal translations made 'on the fly' after the Hebrew scriptures were read in the synagogues. Targum fragments found in the Dead Sea Scrolls indicate that use of written targumim can be dated to pre-Christian times, and eventually two of these written Targumim, Targum Onqelos on the Pentateuch*, and Targum Jonathan on the Prophets*, gained official status, and were specifically designated for use in synagogue services. In addition to these two official Targumim, there are several targumim covering various books of the Writings* and other, competing Targums to the Pentateuch that never gained any official status - indeed every book but Ezra-Nehemiah and Daniel (which were partially written in Aramaic to begin with) has at least one extant Targum.

Now if people cant understand this post then all must be in denial or not that smart or over intellectualized or something!. All these threads are are simple paths being trail blazed creating branches that other people can study and expand on. Perhaps this can be suited and expanded and used in Sermons to the congregation.

Remember its a on the run journey with precept upon precept, stone upon stone and block upon block creating this image in real reality on the run, unlocking the great 7th Mystery as we go done the track to the ancient cities of the Persian Gulf and The Mediterranean Sea producing the Targum on the the fly! Just like with the Prophets of old and also with the seers and prophets this side of Jesus' times they all are part of the final targum for this Epoch unlocking the door to the Next Epochal revelation of the Father in the Uplift all religions of the planet that will lead them to the teachings of Jesus in the edification and uplift of mankind!

I am personally very proud of this presentation and very happy to be of service of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.

I say Amen and Yea! and praise the Lord for all his great bounty and generosity and particularly through his guidance!

Because today we have another great victory in the interpretation of the Great and final Targum.

The Targum of the prophets! The Targum of the Sevenfold, The Targum of the Seventh Mystery!

Hallelujah! right on!

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You know Ive been seeing reports of the repression that Magabe is enforcing in Zimbabwe.

That guy is just an evil man and some people will only have there blessings in this world only.

He will not get away with anything that he commits upon the people.

I cant see how a guy like that in his action upon his fellow brother could even survvive after this life.

Everything is recorded and his witness will be required of him and personaly he will be and is completely unsuccessful in his evil motives.

Nothing will help him in truth!

He is a bad leader and is completely incompetant!

A guy you wouldnt want in your house.

He has innocent blood on his hands and he is ultimately responsible. Nothing good about the guy and is consummed with self serving evil.

Nothing good about the guy!

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Here is a previous post from a few days ago


I just saw this video.

I thought it was absolutely truthful and it completely confirm my personal journey and reminds me when the conversation of this thread was about the Destroyer/the Angona System/PlanetX

The video is a direct confirmation of what is to come of this planet and I believe we are in the process right now and its related to the Seventh mystery and the revealing of the treasury as in the all the ancient cities.

The video posted by Speaking Rock http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2171117/6870358 really touched my heart and brought tears of listening to our short term destiny and in light of the conversation. It will come like a thief in the night and cause real desolation and before that there will be a short and narrow path that leads to evacuation. In relation to the journey in the video was the part even the son of a thief will be your scribe, something like that! I can relate to that. The narrow path that leads to Noah's ark in our day of safety will be laid out by a scribe who be the son of a thief which is no different from the father/son relationship of Siddhartha Gautama in his relationship with his Father who was a petty chieftain who suffered the people according to the UB. I see many parallels!

Everything in the video was true and it was good and I would take heed to it and prepare and send out the message, one way of confirmation is going out to Dalamatia City and verify the discovered city in the images led through all the books of religion and namely the Urantia Book. Everything encompassed in the video is also contained in the journey specifically on the path to the ancient places which includes 1stEden and Dalamatia City.

We can do this while we can to confirm the Ark of the testament. Verifying Dalamatia City would confirm everything and lead to a path of Safety in truth before the dreaded reality of the Destroyer.

I also think the Kolbrin bible is relevant to the journey to the ancient places. I see much truth in the scribe who wrote chapter 3.

That was very good.

The seventh Mystery is Noah's ark of the Latter day!


Another part of the video I resonated to is that in those days the great book before them great book of wisdom, revealed. Could be all the books in oneness but pointing to one book of truth that forms unity with all the books in revealing and demonstration.

In those days man will have the great book before them wisdom will be unveiled and revealed

A few would be gathered for the stand in the final hour!

The dauntless ones survive!

God of all ages, light throughout who sets the trail of man.

Even the Son of a thief has become your scribe.

Kolbrin Bible extracts from the video from Speaking Rock.

All reflective of the journey to the ancient places of all ages in truth in the journey of the mystery.

a fragment from the Kolbrin bible

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http://yowbooks.com/download/manning/k2master/kolbrin-bible-ebook-demo.pdf

Very relevant for today.

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Revelation, 1:19-20

Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

"The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand,"

Kind of infers a mouse in the right hand and a monitor seeing the Seventh, mystery unveiled and revealed.

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Manuscripts 3:9

…the hour of the DESTROYER is at hand.

Manuscripts 3:10

In those days, men will have the Great Book before them [upon its return], wisdom will be revealed, the few will be gathered for the stand, it is the hour of trial. The dauntless ones (the stouthearted) will survive ...

Thats true a few will stand at the last, I know that for sure.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hercolobus/kolbrin_08.htm

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and this perhaps related to the seven spheres within the 3 spheres which I would interpret as the Seven spheres as the Sevenfold and 3 spheres as the symbol of the Melchizedek.

Here is a link to video of a well seal found in the islands of Patmos and Mykonos. The author of the video feels its could have a connection in metaphor in the description of the Seven seals made by John in revelation and with Saturn which I can understand. However I see some other things in metaphor. This type of seal is also used to secure tombs like Jesus' tomb. In metaphor I see the Seven Seals in both doors protecting protecting something that is buried from ages past, or like a plug sealing a well it could like the plug of the Living waters of the last revelation of our times. The Seventh seal related to this journey working is like working through the books in the focalization to the cities of past ages and by discovering the hidden paths along the way breaks the great Seventh mystery as we discover further the truth, unlocking the tombs of ancient cities of the past. Identical in type to the well seal or perhaps the Seventh Seal protecting the tomb of the cities. All in the same spiritual type and metaphor!

Notice the 3 concentric circles on the outer ring and more rings on the circular door of the well seal. Probably Seven in all!

The Well Seal or the Seventh Seal used in Metaphor by John of Revelation! This well seal can be found on Patmos Island.

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Seal of God - Bruce Codex, Uriel, and Abyssos
http://www.youtube.com/v/xFu_TeZZilA&hl=en

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I thought it was an interesting connection apparently these can be found on the isle of Patmos.

Although some people seem to think its a seal pointing to Saturn! I feel it has something to do with the Sevenfold! symbolized by the Seven rings looking at it from Johns perspective and in light of this journey to the cities.

Here is another link I just found.

http://www.blackraiser.com/mib/seal_of_God.htm


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This is his character which is on his face thus

The Greek word CARAKTHR means: the collective qualities of a person, or a role played by an actor. It also means a written letter, symbol, or an engraving: "This is his seal which is in his forehead."

The small vertical line in the nucleus of the top circle drawing is not present in the bottom circle, but it dwells "in his forehead."

Though still largely unknown to the general reading public, The Book of Jeu diagrams are probably the world's oldest graphic images of the "seal of God" as mentioned in St John's Revelation: "And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." (- Revelation 7:2-3)

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And what are the main symbols of the journey to the ancient places? The circles whether it be co planar or concentric. The seal of the Melchizedek, the new Planetary Prince of this planet installed by Jesus.

Didn't Ezekiel have a similar descriptions of a wheel within a wheel within a wheel resembling something close to the seal of Patmos or John or even the Sevenfold seal?

Certainly fits the description of the Well Seal or seventh seal, two wheels within one and the 3rd wheel being the shaft to the lock.

The symbol of the Seventh Book of Moses, note the 3 concentric Melchizedek circles and the 7 circles of the Sevenfold which is the Symbol, of the Seventh mystery.

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From Moses to John on Patmos the same symbol of the Melchizedek. How beautiful!

Here is another interesting triangle circle symbol.

The Third Table of the Spirits of the Water.
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from

http://www.esotericarchives.com/moses/67moses.htm

Note the 3 co planar circles in this seal

The Second Table of the Spirits of Fire
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All the relevant symbols seen in these Kabala symbols and seen and recognized in the journey to the ancient places.

Quite incredible to come across this major confirmation in the symbolism all related to the Seventh seal and encompasses all the symbolism of the journey to the ancient places all linked by the 3 co planar circles, 3 concentric circles and the triangle circle symbol found in all the the cities of past Epochs. Another Symbol is the 7 circles of the Sevenfold!

I tell you what those seal are on my forehead as the journey has been been a fulltime journey ranging from 12hrs to 18hrs a day for a while now just searching the books, following inner thoughts and discovering connections that I reckon links and parallels with my direction.

Praise the Lord!

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I found this article on the front end of this website I was interested in the 3 coplanar circles of the crop circle. I wonder if there is additional thoughts contained in the symbol

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027178/Easy-pi-Astrophysicist-solves-riddle-crop-circle.html

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This symbol may also reflect the mystery of the 7 spheres and the 3 spheres mentioned in the Kolbrin Bible which I interpret as the 7 circles of the Sevenfold and the 3 circle symbol of the Melchizedek although the Melchizedek symbol is 3 concentric circles in this case 3 co planar circles which reflect the submerged cities with the same 3 co planar commonality.

It maybe a connection to the journey linking the oneness of the symbols related to the journey to ancient cities, the symbol does have 7 Spheres and 3 co planar circles. However, the 3 circles are within the Seven spheres in reverse to what is mentioned in the Kolbrin bible extract.

Looking at it again the UFO crop circle is 7 spheres within the 3 co planar spheres which does fulfill the Kolbrin thought of the 7 spheres within the 3 sphere relating to the mystery of the Kolbrin and in my mind fulfilled in the journey to the ancient places. The crop circle is like a confirmation and landmark along the path of truth leading to the cities of the tree of life.

Anyway its just a thought.

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Also note the symbol of the journey to the ancient cities of the past ages which I made sometime ago.

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for me its interesting.


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Just came across this which I thought was interesting whilst I was reading about Dalamatia City.

Its interesting that this fragment is associated with a comment about the direct adjudication of the Ancients of Days which to me infers a judgment and in my mind confirms what has been said.

Could it be that I am right considering that this fragment is attached in the Dalamatia City paper?

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The vast majority of all human and superhuman beings who were victims of the Lucifer rebellion on Jerusem and the various misled planets have long since heartily repented of their folly; and we truly believe that all such sincere penitents will in some manner be rehabilitated and restored to some phase of universe service when the Ancients of Days finally complete the adjudication of the affairs of the Satania rebellion, which they have so recently begun.
Dalamatia City

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Paper 66 City of the Prince

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However, the reason why I was looking through the Dalamatia City paper is that I was trying to find the information of the 100 mile Dalamatia City hinterland that it describes. The City itself is approxiamately 15km x 15km x 15km, an Area of 112sqaure kilometers, I wonder if this calculation in truth relates to this 100 mile hinterland seems close to an approximate calculation of the city.

I know the fragment is there but I havent foiund it yet.

The city itself had 10 grand divisions that you can see and each division was seperated by 5 divisions. You can see the divisions within the hinterland of the triangle walls. Each grand division has an central headquarters

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/persian_gulf/index.htm

The 10 grand divisions

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Another view of the 10 grand divisions

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another view of a grand divisions and you can see the 5 divisions of a grand division.

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and here is a single division with its headquarters still intact to a degree

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and a top view produced when I first discovered the walls but wasnt seeing it was triangle city, that came later in the journey when it just appeared to me or when it occured to me.

I found the fragment
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PAPER 66 - THE PLANETARY PRINCE OF URANTIA, Oct 19 2000

line 183: The country around the city was quite well settled within a radius of one hundred miles.

Immediately surrounding the city, hundreds of graduates of the Prince's schools engaged in animal husbandry and otherwise carried out the instruction they had received from his staff and their numerous human helpers. A few engaged in agriculture and horticulture.

Ok, if we extend further out to match the 100 mile radius of Dalamatia City you will reach the 100 mile outer extent of Dalamatia City beyond the walls.

Again the City is approxiamaetly 112.5 sq kilometers and can hold a total of 40,000 people and does seem to match the size of the triangle city in the image.

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Each grand division held 500 and more people.

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The Prince's staff lived together as fathers and mothers. True, they had no children of their own, but the fifty pattern homes of Dalamatia never sheltered less than five hundred adopted little ones assembled from the superior families of the Andonic and Sangik races; many of these children were orphans.
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Have I not told you all these years that my kingdom is not of this world? The things which you now look down upon are coming to an end, but this will be a new beginning out of which the gospel of the kingdom will go to all the world and this salvation will spread to all peoples. And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness,

"You behold me now in weakness and in the flesh, but when I return, it shall be with power and in the spirit. The eye of flesh beholds the Son of Man in the flesh, but only the eye of the spirit will behold the Son of Man glorified by the Father and appearing on earth in his own name.

"But the times of the reappearing of the Son of Man are known only in the councils of Paradise; not even the angels of heaven know when this will occur. However, you should understand that, when this gospel of the kingdom shall have been proclaimed to all the world for the salvation of all peoples, and when the fullness of the age has come to pass , the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal, or else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age.


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Fullness of Ages could very well be the revealing and understanding of the Ages as in the journey and verification of the submerged cities of the tree of life and note else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age.   This points precisely to Judgment Day!!  Where all man will be adjudged according to his life witness and based on the standards of the opened books that are opened in the last days when the Sevenfold Mystery or the Seventh mystery is called in as complete by the Sevenfold Seraphic Angel of the Sevenfold teaching mission sponsored by the Ancient of Days which would fall under the direct jurisdiction of Paradise direct to the Father.
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Well Im in the battlefield of the Athiest

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=51090&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

if your interested

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Richard Dawkins! No thanks, that guy is a FOOL! [Frown]
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Hi Wireless

Im curious why do you think that?

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Hi sevens, because my mind is in tune with the primary source code... [Smile]
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cool

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I miss the Absonite.
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The face of Jesus during 2/20/08 lunar eclipse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1unmTXQvEw&feature=related

Can you see the face of Jesus during an eclipse? To be honest, Im having trouble.

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Wireless has a mind? Where? [Wink]
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